All 8 Cars That Hit 60 MPH in 3.0 Seconds and Cost Less than $70,000

IronWing

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There's a Chevy truck video in the middle of that page. I was like, "That's a hell of a truck!"
 

zinfamous

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That's awesome. I saw the corvette listed at 8 and was like "really, there's something else?"

Oh.

:D
 

EXCellR8

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hahaha

in all honesty though you can sort of tell the Nissan is going to wreck face without the race even starting... something I never cared for about TG and GT, the sort of hokey jargon that just comes across as totally artificial and scripted.
 

zinfamous

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hahaha

in all honesty though you can sort of tell the Nissan is going to wreck face without the race even starting... something I never cared for about TG and GT, the sort of hokey jargon that just comes across as totally artificial and scripted.

yes but it's all thoroughly entertaining anyway. If you can't get a kick out of episodes like Jags, or when they buy shitty cars for $1k (old Porsches, Maseratis) and especially the special remote/trip episodes, then I'm not sure what would entertain you. I mean, just compare GT and old TG to Top Gear since then, right? the new TG is completely unwatchable.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Muscle car from the late 60's 10,000
Parts. 10,000
Labor. 20,000
550 hp crate engine 7000
Paint. 5000
Total. $52,000
 

EXCellR8

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yes but it's all thoroughly entertaining anyway. If you can't get a kick out of episodes like Jags, or when they buy shitty cars for $1k (old Porsches, Maseratis) and especially the special remote/trip episodes, then I'm not sure what would entertain you. I mean, just compare GT and old TG to Top Gear since then, right? the new TG is completely unwatchable.

Oh I totally agree and, while I like and enjoy the show overall, just don't really like the cheesy comedic stuff most of the time. I know it's a show and they're trying to cater to a wide range of people (including those who aren't necessarily into autos) but for me it sort of hampers what it's actually about--the cars. Sometimes I just think they take the banter and nonsensical stuff to the point of nearly breaking the show.
 

ponyo

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For 0-60 mph, EV cars are the way to go. 1) Tesla Model 3 Performance: 0-60 mph 3.2 seconds. $54,990 before incentives. 2) Tesla Model S Performance: 0-60 mph 2.4 seconds. $99,990 before incentives. 3) Tesla Model X Performance. 0-60 mph 2.7 seconds. $104,990 before incentives. 4) and the insane 2020 Tesla Roadster. 0-60 mph 1.9 seconds. 1/4 mile in 8.8 seconds. Top speed over 250 mph. 620 mile range. $200,000.
 

rstrohkirch

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Or you could just buy a used liter bike for 5k =]

But more in relation to the topic, the new c8 looks like it's going to be a seriously good deal.
 

zinfamous

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For 0-60 mph, EV cars are the way to go. 1) Tesla Model 3 Performance: 0-60 mph 3.2 seconds. $54,990 before incentives. 2) Tesla Model S Performance: 0-60 mph 2.4 seconds. $99,990 before incentives. 3) Tesla Model X Performance. 0-60 mph 2.7 seconds. $104,990 before incentives. 4) and the insane 2020 Tesla Roadster. 0-60 mph 1.9 seconds. 1/4 mile in 8.8 seconds. Top speed over 250 mph. 620 mile range. $200,000.

I wonder what the actual, real-life range will be on that thing if you are giving it the beans on a track? Will it be slightly better than the 2008 Roaster...so like, 20 miles before it shits the bed and then starts a small fire? :D

I kid mostly...that was the really early roadsters that had issues, of course (hell, I think all of them did to some degree), but I would be absolutely astonished if that thing could manage at least 1/6th of that kind of range if you're driving it the way it is designed to drive. 620 miles, really? hmmm
 

jlee

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just pointing out a corvette for under $70,000 is kind of silly unless you've got more money than brains.

It's not remotely the same thing. Cobbling together a pile of parts and running drag tires in order to achieve 0-60 in X time is fine, but comparing it to a factory produced fully warrantied car with modern safety equipment and electronics, tires that let you drive in most non-snow conditions, all with the balanced track precision that comes with decades of engineering? Come on now.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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It's not remotely the same thing. Cobbling together a pile of parts and running drag tires in order to achieve 0-60 in X time is fine, but comparing it to a factory produced fully warrantied car with modern safety equipment and electronics, tires that let you drive in most non-snow conditions, all with the balanced track precision that comes with decades of engineering? Come on now.
I'd take after market parts systems after factory warranted every time. We're not talking a rat rod, we're talking all the modern electronics and safety gear. Think Chip Foos.
 

Viper GTS

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I think you are wildly underestimating the cost of parts, labor, and engineering that go into what you are describing.

Sure if people want to drop tons of money in the aftermarket they could end up with something faster. But for 99% of the population who will buy these the C8 is the better choice because

1) It has a readily proven value, so it's easy to finance and insure
2) It's easy to resell in the event they need the money, want to move to a different vehicle, etc.

Even if we assume price parity and say you can build a faster car for $70,000 that still requires that people have $70,000 that they can spend, be willing to tie that $70,000 up in something that they cannot readily liquidate, and are willing to accept difficulty obtaining appropriate insurance. For the vast majority of the population this is not remotely feasible. Financing a $70,000 car is trivial.

Based on the information we have so far C8 is an astounding performance value. It basically obsoletes any factory warrantied fun car under $250,000 unless you care more about the brand cachet and how hard the dash texture makes you vs what it can do.

Viper GTS
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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You're talking about perceived value and resellability, two completely different metrics than what we're talking about.
 

jlee

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I'd take after market parts systems after factory warranted every time. We're not talking a rat rod, we're talking all the modern electronics and safety gear. Think Chip Foos.

Show me a 1960's muscle car built to that price point with stability control and airbag / safety systems on par with something released in 2019.
 

IronWing

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Show me a 1960's muscle car built to that price point with stability control and airbag / safety systems on par with something released in 2019.
Include the $45 for Rubbermaid center console and screws because the Corvette has two cup holders, an unheard of luxury in pre-1990s cars.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Show me a 1960's muscle car built to that price point with stability control and airbag / safety systems on par with something released in 2019.
Again, a different metric than being discussed but, Monroe suspension, Brembo brakes, SRS airbags and sensors.
 

rstrohkirch

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Again, a different metric than being discussed

I feel like you're arguing a point just to argue.

The article is about brand new factory cars that can do 3.0 0-60 or less for $70,000 or less. You say you can do it for less for something that's not a brand new factory car because it's silly to spend $70,000 on a corvette.

You state you'd rather take aftermarket warranties from multiple different companies/vendors over a single consolidated factory warranty even though the power train warranty alone on a new coverette is 5 yr and crate engines are like 2 yr at most.

Someone explains why most people would find the opposite true in that it doesn't make sense to build up and spend 50k+ on a custom car. Which you turn around and say that's the not metric being discussed even though he was responding to your comment about spending 70k on a corvette being silly.

You respond to someone mentioning that the car you proposed would have modern electrics. Someone then refutes that point by asking for examples and you respond by again saying that's not what we're talking about but here are some brands/items.

You keep making comments, which people are responding to, but then you say that's not what we're comparing. It doesn't make any sense.

That aside, I don't think you can actually do what you've listed for the price point you've listed. Completely disregarding the fact that you're proposing spending 50K+ on something just for a single metric when it does nearly everything else worse. I don't see a 550hp crate engine in that kind of chassis doing 3.0 0-60 runs.