[Alive Again] iPod 30GB MP3 Player $409 Free Ship (No Rebates) **With New $40 off $350 Dell Coupon** 05/19 only

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rastakirk

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I saw the instructions on this website also, and if the new ones can be dissassembled as easily as this then it could be something to think about. I am not sure why Apple did not design a metal back affixed by 4 screws, thereby making battery changes much simpler. They seem to want to attract the high tech buyer or just the well-healed buyer who would be willing to shell out close to $200 per battery change. Don't get me wrong I think they are really cool, the function of the touch dial is very innovative and the sonic quality seems to be very good.
 

Fant

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Just got my third delay notification email! Woohoo!

We have reviewed your order. Although we had anticipated being able to ship
your order sooner,

we are experiencing an unexpected delay and will not be able to ship this
order and

any associated orders until on or before 6/10/2003.

No action is required to proceed with the new date, however, if you do not
wish to wait,

you may cancel your order and receive a prompt refund.

If you have any questions, please contact Dell at 800-289-3355, extension
66966 or

email us at us_dell_notify@dell.com.

Please include your order number or customer number with any
correspondence.

We apologize for any inconvenience this delay may cause.

 

meehawl

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Originally posted by: rastakirk
I am not sure why Apple did not design a metal back affixed by 4 screws, thereby making battery changes much simpler.

I think the lack of easy access to the iPod is by design, and integral to Apple's ability to make such a petite unit. Designing a larger unit would compromise their tight integration... and of course the huge fees charged by iPod service centres for battery removal don't hurt their popularity with retailers either. It's part of Apple's strategy: they achieve extreme compactness by sacrificing features and expandability. The iPod range cost around 50% more than equivalently featured MP3 hard drive players. They have no digital line-in recording, no mic facility, no FM radio reception or broadcast, no wireless interface, no memory card interface, and no easy way for users to replace or upgrade the device's batteries or hard drive. Unlike most of the new generation media players they also feature no MPEG 4 video playback or recording. They have a weird, all-or-nothing metadata approach to storing music that forces you to use the moderately featured iTunes freeware to utilise the iPod to its fullest instead of being able to use some other full-featured, non-freeware media jukebox software. Their battery life is shorter than (AFAIK) all other disk-based HD MP3 players. I gather from the iPod usergroups that the new-gen iPods are getting between 5-8 hours of real-world playtime, and this is with new, fully conditioned batteries.

On the plus side, they do look cute, and fit in most pockets easily. Well done to Apple for figuring that a large proportion of potential MP3 player buyers are not interested in advanced features, and will pay a significant premium for compactness and a simple, constrained interface.

In the 90s, AOL similarly spotted that they could capture a large proportion of online users by offering a simple, integrated system. I think iPods are "training wheel" MP3 players for many people. It remains to be seen whether Apple can manage their new users' experience growth and release more compelling iPods using latest technologies so that these maturing users graduate to more fully-featured iPods and do not desert to other manufacturers' offerings.

 

Tot

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Originally posted by: meehawl
Originally posted by: rastakirk
I am not sure why Apple did not design a metal back affixed by 4 screws, thereby making battery changes much simpler.

I think the lack of easy access to the iPod is by design, and integral to Apple's ability to make such a petite unit. Designing a larger unit would compromise their tight integration... and of course the huge fees charged by iPod service centres for battery removal don't hurt their popularity with retailers either. It's part of Apple's strategy: they achieve extreme compactness by sacrificing features and expandability. The iPod range cost around 50% more than equivalently featured MP3 hard drive players. They have no digital line-in recording, no mic facility, no FM radio reception or broadcast, no wireless interface, no memory card interface, and no easy way for users to replace or upgrade the device's batteries or hard drive. Unlike most of the new generation media players they also feature no MPEG 4 video playback or recording. They have a weird, all-or-nothing metadata approach to storing music that forces you to use the moderately featured iTunes freeware to utilise the iPod to its fullest instead of being able to use some other full-featured, non-freeware media jukebox software. Their battery life is shorter than (AFAIK) all other disk-based HD MP3 players. I gather from the iPod usergroups that the new-gen iPods are getting between 5-8 hours of real-world playtime, and this is with new, fully conditioned batteries.

On the plus side, they do look cute, and fit in most pockets easily. Well done to Apple for figuring that a large proportion of potential MP3 player buyers are not interested in advanced features, and will pay a significant premium for compactness and a simple, constrained interface.

In the 90s, AOL similarly spotted that they could capture a large proportion of online users by offering a simple, integrated system. I think iPods are "training wheel" MP3 players for many people. It remains to be seen whether Apple can manage their new users' experience growth and release more compelling iPods using latest technologies so that these maturing users graduate to more fully-featured iPods and do not desert to other manufacturers' offerings.


Just wondering which MP3player actually support playing MPEG4 video play back?
The only I that I could scratch out of me pea size brain is a PDA.

But I do agree that APPle needs to widen their support for various formats. Otherwise ultimately they will lose just like they are losing to PC format. Being propeitary is all cool but if you are the only manufacturing/branding then there is not enuff competition within this type of market. People will shift to an alternative market.

I hope Steve Job knows his economics. And matter of fact I think someone in Apple company do, coz they are slowing giving in to the PC market. And eventually, I think they could gain market share base on what they are doing now.




 

Grimm1

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Originally posted by: Fant
Just got my third delay notification email! Woohoo!

We have reviewed your order. Although we had anticipated being able to ship
your order sooner,

we are experiencing an unexpected delay and will not be able to ship this
order and

any associated orders until on or before 6/10/2003.

CRAP! I got the same thing!
 

Grimm1

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Originally posted by: Diabolus
Sadly I can't find this listed on their site... Dead agan?

Not dead again...just dead. The author changed this to "[Alive Again] on 5/19 only"...it should be changed back to [Dead] because that was the last day you could get in on this deal. Though many of us haven't seen our iPods yet.

Not sure what Dell's problem is....I called Apple yesterday and asked if there was a shortage of 30GB iPods and they said that there wasn't.
 

LukFilm

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Getting my five units on Monday :D It cost me $373 per unit and that's with taxes through SB division :)
 

IgoByte

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Originally posted by: LukFilm
Getting my five units on Monday :D It cost me $373 per unit and that's with taxes through SB division :)

Five units?

I recon that if SB ships, Home will ship too....but how did you get them for $373 apiece?
 

Miramonti

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I'm holding out till I can get something this size for $150 or so. Hopefully it won't be too long of a wait.
 

LukFilm

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Originally posted by: jjsole
I'm holding out till I can get something this size for $150 or so. Hopefully it won't be too long of a wait.

Haha, keep waiting. Even the 20GB iPods which were $499 are still $350 today. Give it couple of years.
 

LukFilm

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Originally posted by: IgoByte
Originally posted by: LukFilm
Getting my five units on Monday :D It cost me $373 per unit and that's with taxes through SB division :)

Five units?

I recon that if SB ships, Home will ship too....but how did you get them for $373 apiece?

10% off + 20% off + 2% eBates with 6% sales tax.
 

diverdown57

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Aug 15, 2001
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Got a call from DELL...NO ORDERS of any kind will be shipped until 6-19. Orders will be automatically cancelled if you don't contact DELL.

Maybe DELL doesn't want to sell the iPods ( or can't ) and by dragging their feet, so to speak, they hope everyone will cancel their orders........
 

latka

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Originally posted by: LukFilm
Originally posted by: jjsole
I'm holding out till I can get something this size for $150 or so. Hopefully it won't be too long of a wait.

Haha, keep waiting. Even the 20GB iPods which were $499 are still $350 today. Give it couple of years.

I don't understand how Apple products can demand such a high premium. A 20 gig hard drive with an mp3 decoder added to it for $350 just doesn't seem worth it to me.

Assuming a decent encoding at, say 128k means a file size of about 1 MB/minute. 20 GB, then = 20,000 minutes or 333 hours or 14 days or 2 weeks. If you listen to music 12 hours a day, you're toting a month's worth of audio pleasure with you. Although I easily have over 20 gigs of music files, I don't really see the need to carry it all with me. I would think a few hours would suffice until I could get back to my PC and switch the songs.

I saw an MP3 player that globs onto a USB pen drive (and doesn't weigh four pounds) for about $50. If we allocate $20 to the pen drive, that leaves $30 for the mp3 encoder and power assembly. The iPod seems to be pretty well made, so double the cost to $60 for their version, and that still leaves close to $300 for a 20GB hard drive.

LinkyDink - MP3 Pen Drive

--
Latka;
Of course, I am insanely cheap.
 

Grimm1

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Originally posted by: latka
Originally posted by: LukFilm
Originally posted by: jjsole
I saw an MP3 player that globs onto a USB pen drive (and doesn't weigh four pounds) for about $50. If we allocate $20 to the pen drive, that leaves $30 for the mp3 encoder and power assembly. The iPod seems to be pretty well made, so double the cost to $60 for their version, and that still leaves close to $300 for a 20GB hard drive.

LinkyDink - MP3 Pen Drive

--
Latka;
Of course, I am insanely cheap.
I don't see any display on that pen drive? How you gonna manage up to 20GB worth of mp3's without a display? Also...how much do they charge for a 2GB pen drive letalone a 20GB (if one existed).
 

cmbehan

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Apr 18, 2001
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not good. I ordered the 30GB iPod fro Dell on 5/15

I just got this from Dell:

We have reviewed your order. Although we had anticipated being able to ship
your order sooner,

we are experiencing an unexpected delay and will not be able to ship this
order and

any associated orders until on or before 6/20/2003.

If you do not wish to wait, you may cancel your order and receive a prompt
refund.

Please be aware that unless you tell us that you want us to continue with
the order despite the delay,

your order will be automatically canceled on 06/08/03.

To give your consent to continue your order, please contact Dell at
877-868-3355 or

email us at us_dell_notify@dell.com.

Please include your customer number or order number with any
correspondence.

We apologize for any inconvenience this delay may cause you.
 

javabrak

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Apr 8, 2003
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I decided to cancel and buy the 20gb Ipod Refurb for a lower price of $299 +tax. It has the touch pad, remote, case and a 1yr warrenty as well. They are offering free standard shipping. I'll be getting mine by the 6/13, a week before I find out if mine from Dell would have shipped or not...
 

Tot

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Jan 24, 2000
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I just got my 15GB.

Guess what. I am so stupid. I thought that dell wouldnt ship mine till end of this month so I took my time to get a firewire port.(either a dedicated pci card or audigy) Anyway, the thing got in today while I was loitering in my parking lot and my UPS dude called out to me witha boxor from Dello. So now I am stuck with a cool player but cant use it.

Also I am alittle worried that the thing might not be well packed. Eventhough Dello double boxed the retail box. They didnt put any peanuts foam or bubble bags in it. So the poor little pod must have been tossing and turning in the box since it left Mesquite, TExas.


Urgg and I cant try it out. I hope its fine. (I just ordered a 12.99 firewire card from computer123.com. Hopefully it gets here next Friday.)

Edited

I am thinking about modding my case so I can have the dock on my case top itself. heh, I think that would be nice.

Or maybe a 3.5inch slider with the dock on it.(so I can slide it out when I am using it and keep it in the case when I dont wanna see it.





 

mackaikai

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Jul 12, 2001
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It's because iPod works as an external harddrive on a Mac. Plus it can work as a semi-PDA by importing all your iCal's calender info + address book.

Too bad you don't get any of these on PC (unless there will be new hax to it)

Originally posted by: latka
Originally posted by: LukFilm
Originally posted by: jjsole
I'm holding out till I can get something this size for $150 or so. Hopefully it won't be too long of a wait.

Haha, keep waiting. Even the 20GB iPods which were $499 are still $350 today. Give it couple of years.

I don't understand how Apple products can demand such a high premium. A 20 gig hard drive with an mp3 decoder added to it for $350 just doesn't seem worth it to me.

Assuming a decent encoding at, say 128k means a file size of about 1 MB/minute. 20 GB, then = 20,000 minutes or 333 hours or 14 days or 2 weeks. If you listen to music 12 hours a day, you're toting a month's worth of audio pleasure with you. Although I easily have over 20 gigs of music files, I don't really see the need to carry it all with me. I would think a few hours would suffice until I could get back to my PC and switch the songs.

I saw an MP3 player that globs onto a USB pen drive (and doesn't weigh four pounds) for about $50. If we allocate $20 to the pen drive, that leaves $30 for the mp3 encoder and power assembly. The iPod seems to be pretty well made, so double the cost to $60 for their version, and that still leaves close to $300 for a 20GB hard drive.

LinkyDink - MP3 Pen Drive

--
Latka;
Of course, I am insanely cheap.