Alito Splits With Conservatives on Death-Row Inmate

[Genx87]

This is probably not a Big Deal, but it's interesting to me, and suggests that Justice Alito may be a freer thinker than we (or President Bush) thought. It's definitely premature to start presuming anything, but we may yet have another O'Connor, if not another Stevens (also appointed by a Republican, Ford

Well duh!

Dont tell me you honestly bought into Ted Kennedys crap did you?
This is what Bush wanted, a guy who will make a decision based on the merits of the case, not an ideology.

 

[arsbanned]

This doesn't surprise me. I still do not get what Kerry and those other fools were thinking. Maybe because I grew up around Italian-Americans, I just did not see the threat here. We could have done a LOT worse.
The "Conservatives" on the forum must be in twist though? :laugh:

 

[jlmadyson]

Originally posted by: arsbanned
This doesn't surprise me. I still do not get what Kerry and those other fools were thinking. Maybe because I grew up around Italian-Americans, I just did not see the threat here. We could have done a LOT worse.
The "Conservatives" on the forum must be in twist though? :laugh:

Yea this is such a twister here. :laugh:

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: Genx87

This is probably not a Big Deal, but it's interesting to me, and suggests that Justice Alito may be a freer thinker than we (or President Bush) thought. It's definitely premature to start presuming anything, but we may yet have another O'Connor, if not another Stevens (also appointed by a Republican, Ford

Well duh!

Dont tell me you honestly bought into Ted Kennedys crap did you?

Concerned? Yes. Ted Kennedy? No.

This is what Bush wanted, a guy who will make a decision based on the merits of the case, not an ideology.

Nope. There's nothing in Bush's past or present to suggest that this is what he wanted at all.

 

[Genx87]

Nope. There's nothing in Bush's past or present to suggest that this is what he wanted at all.

Alito and Roberts were not right winged ideologues, this is what he wanted. Somebody who will take a case based on its merits and apply it to our consitution. I am sorry if you really buy into the left winged propaganda.

 

[Cooler]

does this mean he is pro life?

 

[jlmadyson]

Originally posted by: Cooler
does this mean he is pro life?

It means he is going to review the case on the facts. It is a stay. Not sure you can make much more of it.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Nope. There's nothing in Bush's past or present to suggest that this is what he wanted at all.

Alito and Roberts were not right winged ideologues, this is what he wanted. Somebody who will take a case based on its merits and apply it to our consitution. I am sorry if you really buy into the left winged propaganda.

I agree about Roberts - Alito's record doesn't lend itself particularly well to the 'freethinking' label, though maybe in the SC he will become so, afterall, he no longer serves any master.

I don't think Bush is concerned one way or the other about social policy; based on his rack record, what he wants is a court that won't step on his toes when he tries to extend executive power further (and there can be no question that he has been doing this; you either have to support it or not because it is reality). Roberts I find a puzzlingly good choice, to be honest.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Genx87

This is probably not a Big Deal, but it's interesting to me, and suggests that Justice Alito may be a freer thinker than we (or President Bush) thought. It's definitely premature to start presuming anything, but we may yet have another O'Connor, if not another Stevens (also appointed by a Republican, Ford

Well duh!

Dont tell me you honestly bought into Ted Kennedys crap did you?
This is what Bush wanted, a guy who will make a decision based on the merits of the case, not an ideology.

What a typical line from a liberal. If you are conservative, you cant be free thinker Only liberals are free thinkers and everyone is sheep. They wonder why they keep losing elections.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Ferocious
umm there was already five votes for the stay.

His vote was irrevelant...except for public opinion purposes...and apparantly it has worked.

Only time will tell.

 

[MadRat]

As a fellow Catholic its easy to review why he voted the way he did. Unfortunately it is precedence that his personal feelings will weigh heavily upon the rulings over law.

 

[her209]

Its only been 24 hours guys!!!

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Genx87

This is probably not a Big Deal, but it's interesting to me, and suggests that Justice Alito may be a freer thinker than we (or President Bush) thought. It's definitely premature to start presuming anything, but we may yet have another O'Connor, if not another Stevens (also appointed by a Republican, Ford

Well duh!

Dont tell me you honestly bought into Ted Kennedys crap did you?
This is what Bush wanted, a guy who will make a decision based on the merits of the case, not an ideology.

What a typical line from a liberal. If you are conservative, you cant be free thinker Only liberals are free thinkers and everyone is sheep. They wonder why they keep losing elections.

Really. Who is wondering? Someone on this forum? Or are you being a drama queen? I ask merely for information.
I think the Democrats have been losing elections due to Republican fear mongering vis à vie domestic security issues, (despite the Republicans clearly demonstrating a lack of understanding of how to stamp out terrorism or even merely apprehend OBL) the efficacy of the Republican smear machine (Swift Assassins) and, at least in 2000, Bush having a fishn' n' huntin' buddy on the SCOTUS. That always helps.
I do find Bush supporters in general to be rather defensive in their refusal to consider any possiblity other than total unquestioning support regardless of facts.
I'd be more than happy to consider the possibility that I am all wrong and Bush is actually a fine President who articulates his wonderful ideas clearly and then after building consesus delivers on those wonderful ideas. But the facts don't bear that out. :laugh:

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: arsbanned

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Genx87

This is probably not a Big Deal, but it's interesting to me, and suggests that Justice Alito may be a freer thinker than we (or President Bush) thought. It's definitely premature to start presuming anything, but we may yet have another O'Connor, if not another Stevens (also appointed by a Republican, Ford

Well duh!

Dont tell me you honestly bought into Ted Kennedys crap did you?
This is what Bush wanted, a guy who will make a decision based on the merits of the case, not an ideology.

What a typical line from a liberal. If you are conservative, you cant be free thinker Only liberals are free thinkers and everyone is sheep. They wonder why they keep losing elections.

Really. Who is wondering? Someone on this forum? Or are you being a drama queen? I ask merely for information.
I think the Democrats have been losing elections due to Republican fear mongering vis à vie domestic security issues, (despite the Republicans clearly demonstrating a lack of understanding of how to stamp out terrorism or even merely apprehend OBL) the efficacy of the Republican smear machine (Swift Assassins) and, at least in 2000, Bush having a fishn' n' huntin' buddy on the SCOTUS. That always helps.
I do find Bush supporters in general to be rather defensive in their refusal to consider any possiblity other than total unquestioning support regardless of facts.
I'd be more than happy to consider the possibility that I am all wrong and Bush is actually a fine President who articulates his wonderful ideas clearly and then after building consesus delivers on those wonderful ideas. But the facts don't bear that out. :laugh:

Just keep insulting insulting the other party and you will never get their vote. It is pretty simple.

 

[CQuinn]

Alito's decision matters just as much as Roberts does; in this and subsequent cases.

People are going to be analyzing every opinion these two make for the next year or so,
both because they are "new" to the case level they are asked to decide upon; and because
they represent whatever change is seen in the composition of the court going forward.