Alec Baldwin shoots and kills a woman, injures a man.

[Vic]

If you think there has been an attempt at overthrowing our government, you are an idiot, not just might be an idiot, but you are an idiot.

The only idiots are the ones thinking they can convince everyone that what they openly tried and failed to do didn't happen.

 

[MrSquished]

Acting like you've been in a coma for the last year or so is a shitty way to disagree with someone, but sure, you do that.

Cliffs for you and the rest of the cult: Trump the Twice Impeached Traitor tried to pull off a coup, after blatantly trying to sabotage and undermine election integrity. He's on tape telling Georgian officials to find more votes FFS. When that didn't work he tried a hasty insurrection on 1/6/21, was aided by several GQP politicians but ultimately mushroom blocked by Pence who wasn't onboard with that much treason. The attempt to invalidate the election is literally a plan on paper from John Eastman, one that Team Treason seems quite proud of.

Punch yourself in the face some more, it amuses me.

I've seen many fascists like Taj on other platforms. The are truly that willfully ignorant. It's evil. It's exactly how other populations in history perform atrocities, complete ability to live outside reality. They are horrific people

 

[rmacd02]

The armorer should bear the ultimate responsibility. We are forgetting one thing, it's a movie. It's pretend. Anyone really think Keanu Reeves can really handle a gun like John Wick? No. That's why experts are hired. It's their job. If a check is required by the actor that instruction should come from the armorer. If the actor failed to do what instructed then they bear a greater blame.

You are correct, the armorer bears ultimate responsibility. I've always assumed a gun is loaded until inspected, though. I guess I can see the argument that when the actor is handed a gun to be used as a prop, it is assumed that the gun isn't dangerous. Maybe this is an opportunity to make everyone in the chain makes sure the gun is truly safe.

 

[pmv]

Acting like you've been in a coma for the last year or so is a shitty way to disagree with someone, but sure, you do that.

Cliffs for you and the rest of the cult: Trump the Twice Impeached Traitor tried to pull off a coup, after blatantly trying to sabotage and undermine election integrity. He's on tape telling Georgian officials to find more votes FFS. When that didn't work he tried a hasty insurrection on 1/6/21, was aided by several GQP politicians but ultimately mushroom blocked by Pence who wasn't onboard with that much treason. The attempt to invalidate the election is literally a plan on paper from John Eastman, one that Team Treason seems quite proud of.

Punch yourself in the face some more, it amuses me.

Small disagreement - my impression is it wasn't purely Pence that 'stopped the steal', but they also failed to get the Republican state legislatures (and the validation boards) sufficiently 'with the program' beforehand. As I understand their plan they'd have needed 'alternative slates of electors' to be put forward. And invalidating the votes in Democrat majority districts would have helped also.

They were a few steps short of a full "constitutional coup". One day, maybe not 2024, but one day, when they aren't worshipping an idiot, they might get their ducks in a row.

 

[kage69]

Small disagreement - my impression is it wasn't purely Pence that 'stopped the steal', but they also failed to get the Republican state legislatures (and the validation boards) sufficiently 'with the program' beforehand. As I understand their plan they'd have needed 'alternative slates of electors' to be put forward. And invalidating the votes in Democrat majority districts would have helped also.

They were a few steps short of a full "constitutional coup". One day, maybe not 2024, but one day, when they aren't worshipping an idiot, they might get their ducks in a row.

No no, that's true, I was just keeping it brief as I don't believe in expending too much time or effort on dickless traitors with self-harm fixations. I could go on for sometime, but won't for a magat.

*cough*

 

[nOOky]

Some should have Baldwin that "most things in here don't react well with bullets". Too soon?

Anyway it's not like it was his first time handling a gun in a movie.

 

[dank69]

Do you live in a place where there are crazy people?

Yeah. My next door neighbor is a Trump supporter. 2 doors down the other direction is a house full of Trump supporters. Several others just on my street alone. Lots of crazies, everywhere. +71M in the US and that's just the ones that voted.

 

[HomerJS]

Yeah. My next door neighbor is a Trump supporter. 2 doors down the other direction is a house full of Trump supporters. Several others just on my street alone. Lots of crazies, everywhere. +71M in the US and that's just the ones that voted.

you have my condolences

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Do you live in a place where there are crazy people?

Unfortunately, Republicans are all over the place.

 

[Jaskalas]

The armorer should bear the ultimate responsibility.

And the AD who supposedly shouted "cold gun", indicating he knew its status. That lie contributed greatly.

 

[manly]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1454105780320354315

The head armorer basically admitted she sucked at her job.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Yeah. My next door neighbor is a Trump supporter. 2 doors down the other direction is a house full of Trump supporters. Several others just on my street alone. Lots of crazies, everywhere. +71M in the US and that's just the ones that voted.

Unfortunately, Republicans are all over the place.

No such thing as an honest political disagreement in leftyland.

 

[soundforbjt]

No such thing as an honest political disagreement in leftyland.

Not when the other side can’t agree on what reality is.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Not when the other side can’t agree on what reality is.

I mean, it really takes a special level of stupid to set out to be dishonest so that you can then complain that an honest discussion can't be had. Yet here he is doing his same old clown routine.

And the dumbest part is that clearly even his own brain has a problem with it which is why he's so enraged about constantly being called out for his dishonest bullshit.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Alec Baldwin interview: Actor speaks out for 1st time on-camera since 'Rust' movie-set shooting, mourns Halyna Hutchins: VIDEO - ABC7 New York (abc7ny.com)

Can the police charge the production team for lax safety protocols, in case they are unable to definitively determine an individual(s)'s culpability in this tragedy?

 

[HomerJS]

No such thing as an honest political disagreement in leftyland.

You're pointing in the wrong direction. When asked to produce evidence of one of your ridiculous claims or asked a direct question you go silent.

 

[VW MAN]

No such thing as an honest political disagreement in leftyland.

No such thing as an honest political disagreement with liars and morons like you bitch-boy.

Honest political discussion can actually happen when no side participates from the side of lies...in fact it happens a lot and is happening right now within congress (granted its only the various shades of blue that are doing it because all the red side has is lies and obstruction)

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Alec Baldwin interview: Actor speaks out for 1st time on-camera since 'Rust' movie-set shooting, mourns Halyna Hutchins: VIDEO - ABC7 New York (abc7ny.com)

Can the police charge the production team for lax safety protocols, in case they are unable to definitively determine an individual(s)'s culpability in this tragedy?

No they can't, not a criminal charge. It would have to be a civil charge and would cost money.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

You're pointing in the wrong direction. When asked to produce evidence of one of your ridiculous claims or asked a direct question you go silent.

No, one asshole made a comment about his neighbors and another asshole made a comment that Republicans are all over the place.....which is true. Now you make a comment that i'm silent when i clearly responded to all 3 of you assholes. I guess i should be happy that i can't smell you on this forum.

 

[dank69]

No they can't, not a criminal charge. It would have to be a civil charge and would cost money.

There will be a huge civil settlement before this is over. Even if AD catches criminal charges, which in my idiot opinion I suspect he probably should, the production's insurance company is going to pay out big time if even half of the rumors about set conditions are true.

 

[Hans Gruber]

I still cannot figure out why Baldwin's finger was anywhere near the trigger with a gun. They will test the gun for a faulty (light) trigger. This entire incident is totally unacceptable. Who points a gun at a camera with people behind it in this day and age? At some point people need to realize that Baldwin is responsible for his own lack of gun safety.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I still cannot figure out why Baldwin's finger was anywhere near the trigger with a gun. They will test the gun for a faulty (light) trigger. This entire incident is totally unacceptable. Who points a gun at a camera with people behind it in this day and age? At some point people need to realize that Baldwin is responsible for his own lack of gun safety.

Mmmm I’ll wait for facts and required training & processes will be part of that.
Seems like you are making a judgement without having many facts.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Well, if this incident will change anything, it's that almost all actors (I cannot discount morons) will treat a gun as dangerous from now on, bullets or no bullets.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Well, if this incident will change anything, it's that almost all actors (I cannot discount morons) will treat a gun as dangerous from now on, bullets or no bullets.

Not really, it's an old story that's told and retold all the time.

circa 1949

 

[pmv]

I still cannot figure out why Baldwin's finger was anywhere near the trigger with a gun. They will test the gun for a faulty (light) trigger. This entire incident is totally unacceptable. Who points a gun at a camera with people behind it in this day and age? At some point people need to realize that Baldwin is responsible for his own lack of gun safety.

Doesn't seem that clear to me. Blaming Baldwin (in his acting capacity) seems like an attempt to let management (which might very likely include Baldwin anyway!) off the hook. Something the right always want to do. Find a scapegoat among the employees, don't under any circumstances hold those with power responsible.

Even when it's the same individual, you still try and focus on his role as worker rather than boss!