Alcohol != Tobacco

[Udel]

:beer:

 

[Titan]

I fail to see your point. You make a pretty weak case.

Check out and poverty-line trailer park in the midwest and tell me how great alcohol is. Maybe drinking a six pack every night prevents a guy from shooting his hedgehog of a wife, or maybe it only delays the inevitable. In my opinion, habitual consumerism of alchool and tobacco is terrible, ebcause it causes one to become complacent and not challenge their reality.

You are displaying another one of our fine american thought trends: moral judgement. Objects of a vice are not good or bad, it's the person holding object vice you should be paying attention to. I'm not blaming you, it is human to generalize, and we often go too far. But when you go too far, try not to take yourself too seriously. We are all flawed humans.

 

[jman19]

The OP believes everything he hears, I guess. Hey blckgrffn, I have a bridge to sell you!

 

[illusion88]

We haven't had a solid drug based flame war in some time.
I :heart: this thread.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: blckgrffn
What does smoking accomplish? Is it social? Hardly, and not even remotely close to how drinking can bring a large group of people together for enjoyment. It is unhealthy for yourself and those around you. Economically, it is of significant importance, by this is not something that is remotely historical like the economies of alcohol and will be decreasing in the future as the government buys out more and more tobacco farmers. Plus it is damn gross, you don?t see to many people wandering around at all times of the day, sucking down some alcohol and tossing their empties wherever they see fit.

Marijuana? sigh. Anway, not my area of expertise obviously and I should have known better than to bring it up.

You definitely have no idea what youre talking about. A good drink amongst friends is a good thing. But sharing some marijuana in the same way has pretty much the exact same effects. It brings people together just the same...people I never would have associated with normally became good friends over a blunt and some fun conversation. In that sense, it beat out drinking any day. Its no more or less dangerous to your brain or body than marijuana, which is to say, very very little unless it is abused.

Even with tobacco, going out for a smoke with some people you dont know has also proven to be quite a rewarding experience.

And most importantly:
* Alcohol consumption, when enjoyed properly, is a positive experience that contributes positively to social order, smoking offers no such benefit.

Marijuana can provide EXACTLY the same positive experience, if not more so.

 

[Leper Messiah]

*head explodes at OP*

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
*head explodes at OP*

I guess you are going to need a certain amount of self justification in order to post something like that at 3:30 in the morning.

While I agree that a moderate amount of alcohol is of little harm, at least the guy with the moderate amount of marijuana in his system has a much better chance of making the drive home in one piece.

 

[DougK62]

I love how people think smoking tobacco and smoking pot are just sooooooo different. To your body they really aren't very different at all -- smoking pot is probably a bit more harmful just because it's generally not done with a filter.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: DougK62
I love how people think smoking tobacco and smoking pot are just sooooooo different. To your body they really aren't very different at all -- smoking pot is probably a bit more harmful just because it's generally not done with a filter.

but why is it more harmful? Certainly, if one were to smoke an equal ammount of tobbacco vs. marijuana it would be, but for 99.99999% of marijauna smokers that is not the case. A cigarette is roughly equivalent to a joint. I don't know of ANYONE who smokes 20 jays a day, but the average cigarette user smokes like what? A pack and a half, 2 packs a day?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: DougK62
I love how people think smoking tobacco and smoking pot are just sooooooo different. To your body they really aren't very different at all -- smoking pot is probably a bit more harmful just because it's generally not done with a filter.

but why is it more harmful? Certainly, if one were to smoke an equal ammount of tobbacco vs. marijuana it would be, but for 99.99999% of marijauna smokers that is not the case. A cigarette is roughly equivalent to a joint. I don't know of ANYONE who smokes 20 jays a day, but the average cigarette user smokes like what? A pack and a half, 2 packs a day?

good point.

 

[meltdown75]

So basically just because we are steeped in the traditions of the production and consumption of alcohol, it's automatically "better" than other intoxicants?

You also imply that because there are bars or places which we can socially consume alcohol in public without fear of reprisal, alcohol is some glorious social tool.

You're a noob in every sense of the word. No offense.

edit: oh, and if the history of a certain drug is what causes you to revere it so much, perhaps you should do a little reading on cannabis and how it has been perceived through the ages. I assue you you'll be surprised, and your contemporary notions of pot will be challenged, so say the least.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: DougK62
I love how people think smoking tobacco and smoking pot are just sooooooo different. To your body they really aren't very different at all -- smoking pot is probably a bit more harmful just because it's generally not done with a filter.

but why is it more harmful? Certainly, if one were to smoke an equal ammount of tobbacco vs. marijuana it would be, but for 99.99999% of marijauna smokers that is not the case. A cigarette is roughly equivalent to a joint. I don't know of ANYONE who smokes 20 jays a day, but the average cigarette user smokes like what? A pack and a half, 2 packs a day?

good point.

Why TY! 🙂 Forgot to mention the fact that, I exclusively use marijauna through a water bong type aparatus (hookah actually, mixed in with tobacco). It filters out a portion of the crap that is in the tabacco/marijuana, making it less dangerous.

 

[DivideBYZero]

OP is a tool.

/Thread.

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: DougK62
I love how people think smoking tobacco and smoking pot are just sooooooo different. To your body they really aren't very different at all -- smoking pot is probably a bit more harmful just because it's generally not done with a filter.

but why is it more harmful? Certainly, if one were to smoke an equal ammount of tobbacco vs. marijuana it would be, but for 99.99999% of marijauna smokers that is not the case. A cigarette is roughly equivalent to a joint. I don't know of ANYONE who smokes 20 jays a day, but the average cigarette user smokes like what? A pack and a half, 2 packs a day?

You're reading too much into what I typed. All I noted was that you don't see filters on joints, which isn't a good thing.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: DougK62
I love how people think smoking tobacco and smoking pot are just sooooooo different. To your body they really aren't very different at all -- smoking pot is probably a bit more harmful just because it's generally not done with a filter.

but why is it more harmful? Certainly, if one were to smoke an equal ammount of tobbacco vs. marijuana it would be, but for 99.99999% of marijauna smokers that is not the case. A cigarette is roughly equivalent to a joint. I don't know of ANYONE who smokes 20 jays a day, but the average cigarette user smokes like what? A pack and a half, 2 packs a day?

You're reading too much into what I typed. All I noted was that you don't see filters on joints, which isn't a good thing.

No...you stated that smoking marijuana is more harmful to the body than smoking tobacco because its not filtered. Its not my fault you failed to consider the fact that the ammount of tabacco smoked by the average person is far greater than the ammount of marijauna smoked by the average marijuana user. Care to offer up a rebuttal or counterpoint to my statement? Otherwise concede the point.

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: DougK62
I love how people think smoking tobacco and smoking pot are just sooooooo different. To your body they really aren't very different at all -- smoking pot is probably a bit more harmful just because it's generally not done with a filter.

but why is it more harmful? Certainly, if one were to smoke an equal ammount of tobbacco vs. marijuana it would be, but for 99.99999% of marijauna smokers that is not the case. A cigarette is roughly equivalent to a joint. I don't know of ANYONE who smokes 20 jays a day, but the average cigarette user smokes like what? A pack and a half, 2 packs a day?

You're reading too much into what I typed. All I noted was that you don't see filters on joints, which isn't a good thing.

No...you stated that smoking marijuana is more harmful to the body than smoking tobacco because its not filtered. Its not my fault you failed to consider the fact that the ammount of tabacco smoked by the average person is far greater than the ammount of marijauna smoked by the average marijuana user. Care to offer up a rebuttal or counterpoint to my statement? Otherwise concede the point.

Uh...what's with the hostility? You have poor reading comprehension. No where did I make any mention of the quantity that people smoke of either plant. That isn't my point. The point is that smoking a plant without a filter is going to put more crap in your body than smoking the same plant WITH a filter. Period. Do you get it now?

 

[mercanucaribe]

Why are you so in love with alcohol? On a Saturday night, 1 out of 10 drivers is drunk... but you can tack the "if used responsibly" cliche onto anything can't you?

 

[GasX]

How many people come home from a pot smoking session and beat their wives?

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: DougK62
I love how people think smoking tobacco and smoking pot are just sooooooo different. To your body they really aren't very different at all -- smoking pot is probably a bit more harmful just because it's generally not done with a filter.

but why is it more harmful? Certainly, if one were to smoke an equal ammount of tobbacco vs. marijuana it would be, but for 99.99999% of marijauna smokers that is not the case. A cigarette is roughly equivalent to a joint. I don't know of ANYONE who smokes 20 jays a day, but the average cigarette user smokes like what? A pack and a half, 2 packs a day?

You're reading too much into what I typed. All I noted was that you don't see filters on joints, which isn't a good thing.

No...you stated that smoking marijuana is more harmful to the body than smoking tobacco because its not filtered. Its not my fault you failed to consider the fact that the ammount of tabacco smoked by the average person is far greater than the ammount of marijauna smoked by the average marijuana user. Care to offer up a rebuttal or counterpoint to my statement? Otherwise concede the point.

Uh...what's with the hostility? You have poor reading comprehension. No where did I make any mention of the quantity that people smoke of either plant. That isn't my point. The point is that smoking a plant without a filter is going to put more crap in your body than smoking the same plant WITH a filter. Period. Do you get it now?

They sell filters you can roll into a joint.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: DougK62
I love how people think smoking tobacco and smoking pot are just sooooooo different. To your body they really aren't very different at all -- smoking pot is probably a bit more harmful just because it's generally not done with a filter.

but why is it more harmful? Certainly, if one were to smoke an equal ammount of tobbacco vs. marijuana it would be, but for 99.99999% of marijauna smokers that is not the case. A cigarette is roughly equivalent to a joint. I don't know of ANYONE who smokes 20 jays a day, but the average cigarette user smokes like what? A pack and a half, 2 packs a day?

You're reading too much into what I typed. All I noted was that you don't see filters on joints, which isn't a good thing.

No...you stated that smoking marijuana is more harmful to the body than smoking tobacco because its not filtered. Its not my fault you failed to consider the fact that the ammount of tabacco smoked by the average person is far greater than the ammount of marijauna smoked by the average marijuana user. Care to offer up a rebuttal or counterpoint to my statement? Otherwise concede the point.

Uh...what's with the hostility? You have poor reading comprehension. No where did I make any mention of the quantity that people smoke of either plant. That isn't my point. The point is that smoking a plant without a filter is going to put more crap in your body than smoking the same plant WITH a filter. Period. Do you get it now?

They sell filters you can roll into a joint.

and there's always my trusty hookah. don't know how much of a difference better or worse water is for filtering out crap, but its better than nothing...

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: DougK62
I love how people think smoking tobacco and smoking pot are just sooooooo different. To your body they really aren't very different at all -- smoking pot is probably a bit more harmful just because it's generally not done with a filter.

but why is it more harmful? Certainly, if one were to smoke an equal ammount of tobbacco vs. marijuana it would be, but for 99.99999% of marijauna smokers that is not the case. A cigarette is roughly equivalent to a joint. I don't know of ANYONE who smokes 20 jays a day, but the average cigarette user smokes like what? A pack and a half, 2 packs a day?

You're reading too much into what I typed. All I noted was that you don't see filters on joints, which isn't a good thing.

No...you stated that smoking marijuana is more harmful to the body than smoking tobacco because its not filtered. Its not my fault you failed to consider the fact that the ammount of tabacco smoked by the average person is far greater than the ammount of marijauna smoked by the average marijuana user. Care to offer up a rebuttal or counterpoint to my statement? Otherwise concede the point.

Uh...what's with the hostility? You have poor reading comprehension. No where did I make any mention of the quantity that people smoke of either plant. That isn't my point. The point is that smoking a plant without a filter is going to put more crap in your body than smoking the same plant WITH a filter. Period. Do you get it now?

They sell filters you can roll into a joint.

and there's always my trusty hookah. don't know how much of a difference better or worse water is for filtering out crap, but its better than nothing...

hookah is just a fancy way of saying bong 😛

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: DougK62
I love how people think smoking tobacco and smoking pot are just sooooooo different. To your body they really aren't very different at all -- smoking pot is probably a bit more harmful just because it's generally not done with a filter.

but why is it more harmful? Certainly, if one were to smoke an equal ammount of tobbacco vs. marijuana it would be, but for 99.99999% of marijauna smokers that is not the case. A cigarette is roughly equivalent to a joint. I don't know of ANYONE who smokes 20 jays a day, but the average cigarette user smokes like what? A pack and a half, 2 packs a day?

You're reading too much into what I typed. All I noted was that you don't see filters on joints, which isn't a good thing.

No...you stated that smoking marijuana is more harmful to the body than smoking tobacco because its not filtered. Its not my fault you failed to consider the fact that the ammount of tabacco smoked by the average person is far greater than the ammount of marijauna smoked by the average marijuana user. Care to offer up a rebuttal or counterpoint to my statement? Otherwise concede the point.

Uh...what's with the hostility? You have poor reading comprehension. No where did I make any mention of the quantity that people smoke of either plant. That isn't my point. The point is that smoking a plant without a filter is going to put more crap in your body than smoking the same plant WITH a filter. Period. Do you get it now?

They sell filters you can roll into a joint.

and there's always my trusty hookah. don't know how much of a difference better or worse water is for filtering out crap, but its better than nothing...

hookah is just a fancy way of saying bong 😛

well, I don't use a lighter on a hookah, I use a coal. 😉 and the hookah is a much bigger conversation piece than a mere bong.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: DougK62
I love how people think smoking tobacco and smoking pot are just sooooooo different. To your body they really aren't very different at all -- smoking pot is probably a bit more harmful just because it's generally not done with a filter.

but why is it more harmful? Certainly, if one were to smoke an equal ammount of tobbacco vs. marijuana it would be, but for 99.99999% of marijauna smokers that is not the case. A cigarette is roughly equivalent to a joint. I don't know of ANYONE who smokes 20 jays a day, but the average cigarette user smokes like what? A pack and a half, 2 packs a day?

You're reading too much into what I typed. All I noted was that you don't see filters on joints, which isn't a good thing.

No...you stated that smoking marijuana is more harmful to the body than smoking tobacco because its not filtered. Its not my fault you failed to consider the fact that the ammount of tabacco smoked by the average person is far greater than the ammount of marijauna smoked by the average marijuana user. Care to offer up a rebuttal or counterpoint to my statement? Otherwise concede the point.

Uh...what's with the hostility? You have poor reading comprehension. No where did I make any mention of the quantity that people smoke of either plant. That isn't my point. The point is that smoking a plant without a filter is going to put more crap in your body than smoking the same plant WITH a filter. Period. Do you get it now?

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They sell filters you can roll into a joint.

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and there's always my trusty hookah. don't know how much of a difference better or worse water is for filtering out crap, but its better than nothing...[/quote]
hookah is just a fancy way of saying bong 😛

[/quote]

well, I don't use a lighter on a hookah, I use a coal. 😉 and the hookah is a much bigger conversation piece than a mere bong.[/quote]
speaking of a conversation piece :laugh:

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: DougK62
I love how people think smoking tobacco and smoking pot are just sooooooo different. To your body they really aren't very different at all -- smoking pot is probably a bit more harmful just because it's generally not done with a filter.

but why is it more harmful? Certainly, if one were to smoke an equal ammount of tobbacco vs. marijuana it would be, but for 99.99999% of marijauna smokers that is not the case. A cigarette is roughly equivalent to a joint. I don't know of ANYONE who smokes 20 jays a day, but the average cigarette user smokes like what? A pack and a half, 2 packs a day?

You're reading too much into what I typed. All I noted was that you don't see filters on joints, which isn't a good thing.

No...you stated that smoking marijuana is more harmful to the body than smoking tobacco because its not filtered. Its not my fault you failed to consider the fact that the ammount of tabacco smoked by the average person is far greater than the ammount of marijauna smoked by the average marijuana user. Care to offer up a rebuttal or counterpoint to my statement? Otherwise concede the point.

Uh...what's with the hostility? You have poor reading comprehension. No where did I make any mention of the quantity that people smoke of either plant. That isn't my point. The point is that smoking a plant without a filter is going to put more crap in your body than smoking the same plant WITH a filter. Period. Do you get it now?

They sell filters you can roll into a joint.

[/quote]

and there's always my trusty hookah. don't know how much of a difference better or worse water is for filtering out crap, but its better than nothing...[/quote]
hookah is just a fancy way of saying bong 😛

[/quote]

well, I don't use a lighter on a hookah, I use a coal. 😉 and the hookah is a much bigger conversation piece than a mere bong.[/quote]
speaking of a conversation piece :laugh:
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that looks kinda familar. 'cept my hookah only has one tube. but it looks so much more elegant than a bong.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
and there's always my trusty hookah. don't know how much of a difference better or worse water is for filtering out crap, but its better than nothing...

Take a look at the water and you can tell how much it filters out 😛