Alaska elections of 2004. Why isn't there more interest in this?

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http://votetrustusa.org/index....iew&id=1204&Itemid=113
http://www.alaskalegislature.c.../leg_20061006001.shtml

The Alaska Democratic Party filed suit in Superior Court today seeking to force the Division of Elections to release public records needed to verify the 2004 election results.

According to the Division of Elections' vote reports that were produced by the state's Diebold computer system and are posted on the Division's official web site, a far larger number of votes were cast than the official totals reported in the statewide summary. In the case of President George Bush?s votes, the district-by-district totals add up to 292,267, but his official total was only 190,889, a difference of 101,378 votes. In the U.S. Senate race, Lisa Murkowski received 226,992 votes in the district-by-district totals, but her official total was only 149,446, a difference of 77,546 votes.

In 20 of the 40 State House Districts, more ballots were cast than there are registered voters in the district, according to information on the state's web site. In 16 election districts, the voter turnout percentage shown is over 200%.


"Alaskans must have an accurate accounting of the 2004 election results. "The accountability of our election system is at stake. Confidence in the integrity of our elections is fundamental to our democracy," Metcalfe said.

The ADP filed a formal public records request on Dec. 19, 2005, seeking the "central tabulator data file" taken from the Diebold-supplied computer used to run the "GEMS" (Global Election Management Software) application. This is the electronic file containing all final vote tallies for the 2004 General Election.

Under the public records regulations, the Division was supposed to release the data file on Jan. 4. On Jan. 4 the Division extended the deadline until Jan. 19.

In a Jan. 19 letter, the Division asserted that the file was proprietary information belonging to its contractor, Diebold Elections Systems.

In a Feb. 3 letter, the Division advised the Democrats that Diebold had agreed to waive its proprietary rights to the GEMS database files, and said that the records would be provided if it determined that the integrity of the election system could be protected. In the Feb. 3 letter the Division asked for an additional 10-day extension until Feb. 13, and the Democrats agreed. On Feb. 13, the Division again extended the deadline to Feb. 27. In a letter dated Feb. 22, the Division denied the Democrats' public records request, citing "security risks."




Now, iirc, the end result was that Alaska did turn over the data. But it turns out that after the judge ordered Alaska not to tamper with or amend the data, they did.
And that is how it was left.
 

fleshconsumed

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Guess all vote tampering allegations were true. Now we just have to see whose party was behind it, if any.
 

rudder

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Because this is 2008 and we should be more concerned with the voting fraud going on in Minnesota. Oh wait... it benefits Al Franken... nevermind, no need to discuss.

 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: rudder
Because this is 2008 and we should be more concerned with the voting fraud going on in Minnesota. Oh wait... it benefits Al Franken... nevermind, no need to discuss.

hey look everybody, a troll comes in and trys to change the topic. YES!!! I like cheese pie
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: rudder
Because this is 2008 and we should be more concerned with the voting fraud going on in Minnesota. Oh wait... it benefits Al Franken... nevermind, no need to discuss.

So why don't you make your own thread?




Or is that too complicated?
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: rudder
Because this is 2008 and we should be more concerned with the voting fraud going on in Minnesota. Oh wait... it benefits Al Franken... nevermind, no need to discuss.

got a link or are you just trolling?
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: rudder
Because this is 2008 and we should be more concerned with the voting fraud going on in Minnesota. Oh wait... it benefits Al Franken... nevermind, no need to discuss.

got a link or are you just trolling?

No link... can't seem to find one... :roll:

And all you dolts shouting troll... I was answering the OP's question as to why there isn't more interest in the Alaska elections of 2004. To which I replied... because it was 2004 and there is voter fraud going on now that we should be concerned with.

oh well. Here is a link for the google challened..

LINK found on this cool website called Google.com
 

techs

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Originally posted by: rudder
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: rudder
Because this is 2008 and we should be more concerned with the voting fraud going on in Minnesota. Oh wait... it benefits Al Franken... nevermind, no need to discuss.

got a link or are you just trolling?

No link... can't seem to find one... :roll:

And all you dolts shouting troll... I was answering the OP's question as to why there isn't more interest in the Alaska elections of 2004. To which I replied... because it was 2004 and there is voter fraud going on now that we should be concerned with.

oh well. Here is a link for the google challened..

LINK found on this cool website called Google.com
You fail at the linkage. Nothing in the article about voter fraud.
Do you even know what voter fraud is?

 

MovingTarget

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Well, considering that they just elected a convicted felon back to the senate and the recent disaster that was their governor as vp candidate, the rest of us non-Alaskans can't seem to get our give-a-damn up and running. Their state elected officials don't really affect the rest of us anyhow, so we aren't really worried about those.
 

Moonbeam

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I'm not to interested in the microbial life of a cesspool either, but Lord knows I should be. The world needs better and more efficient shit eaters and I'm sure something up there could contribute.
 

DealMonkey

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"Woops! We found 30% of the state's ballots for the 2008 elections! Sorry!" - Alaska

Most uncounted ballots will be tallied Wednesday
90,000 VOTES: Stevens vs. Begich isn't the only race in question.

Look for the needle to move on Alaska's landmark U.S. Senate race and other tight contests this week, with the Division of Elections planning to tally more than half of the uncounted ballots Wednesday.

For days, the count has been frozen. Sen. Ted Stevens leads Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich by about 3,000 votes with roughly 30 percent of the ballots remaining to be counted, including:

? 61,000 absentee votes.

? More than 20,000 questioned ballots.

? 9,500 early votes.

Of those, at least two-thirds of the absentee votes and nearly all the early votes are expected to be counted Wednesday, said Division Director Gail Fenumiai.

Election workers began poring over questioned ballots Monday in Anchorage, a process that will likely continue through the final count, which is expected Nov. 19.

Meantime, absentee votes are still arriving in the mail and precincts are sending in more questioned ballots.

http://www.adn.com/election/story/585074.html
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
"Woops! We found 30% of the state's ballots for the 2008 elections! Sorry!" - Alaska

Now this is interesting, because its current.
 

Thump553

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Pretty stunning discrepancies in the 2004 election.

The absentee ballots are probably bad news. Probably come from outlying voters were probably cast before Stevens' conviction.

Who would have ever thought we'd elect a clean politician from Chicago or that Alaska politics are at least as corrupt as the worst big citites in the lower 48?
 

shrumpage

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
"Woops! We found 30% of the state's ballots for the 2008 elections! Sorry!" - Alaska

Now this is interesting, because its current.

Its not really interesting.

Heard the story on NPR on the way home from work. Basically ballots are collected and then mailed in from rural areas. Since mail can not always get to point A to B in a timely matter, Alaska gives it extra time for these ballets to be received and then counted.

Over seas absentee ballots are given even longer.

Since this is the case, some of the races have not been called yet.

This story ended up on Digg.com via bradsblog, a little reading of the Fairbanks Daily Miner, or the Anchorage Daily News clears this non-story up pretty quick.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: shrumpage
Since mail can not always get to point A to B in a timely matter, Alaska gives it extra time for these ballets to be received and then counted.
I thought Todd Palin drove the mail from point A to point B using his uber speedy snow machine? How long could it possibly take?
 

shrumpage

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: shrumpage
Since mail can not always get to point A to B in a timely matter, Alaska gives it extra time for these ballets to be received and then counted.
I thought Todd Palin drove the mail from point A to point B using his uber speedy snow machine? How long could it possibly take?

Where i live weather can shut down mail to the villages for over a week.