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Alabama Psycho Kidnaps Boy Kills School Bus Driver

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airdata said:
So... lets start a new topic of discussion w\ gun control.

War Veterans.

If you send some poor 18 year old kid overseas to kill other peoples kids, are they really somebody who should be walking around armed to the teeth?
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fuck off. die in a fire.
 
Doppel said:
Our society is to blame for this. This man
- beat a dog to death with no good reason
- threatened to shoot children in the past
- patrols his yard with a shotgun
- shot at neighbors for speeding

Why in fuck is such a person allowed his freedom among the rest of us, particularly armed? That is assuming all this is true. He should be a ward of the state kept in a secure mental institution.
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i agree.

killing a animal for no reason. he didn't want to eat it, and it wasn't a danger. this is a very clear sign that he has issues.

the fact he has threatened kids in the past should have had police keeping a eye on him. and perhaps takeing guns away until his trial.

him carrieing the gun is kind ameh.

but shooting at people for speeding? he should have had EVERY gun taken away. combined with the threats, killing the animals etc.
 
SheHateMe said:
People are nuts.
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Most people - majority, do consider themselves perfectly normal...
Who did elect Adolf Hitler? Nuts?
Who did elect Jorge Boosh? Nuts?
Who do support US troops in a war in Iraq? Nuts?
Who do believe in official 9/11 Story? Nuts?

We could go on and on....

And...ask any so-called "nut", if he/she consider themselves nuts...

Most humans are perfectly normal...George Carlin(and others like him) was a nut...
I do prefer to be a nut too...
Somehow, I don't want to accociate myself with normal people...I don't have any gun(s)...nor plan to get one...
 
Gintaras said:
Most people - majority, do consider themselves perfectly normal...
Who did elect Adolf Hitler? Nuts?
Who did elect Jorge Boosh? Nuts?
Who do support US troops in a war in Iraq? Nuts?
Who do believe in official 9/11 Story? Nuts?

We could go on and on....

And...ask any so-called "nut", if he/she consider themselves nuts...

Most humans are perfectly normal...George Carlin(and others like him) was a nut...
I do prefer to be a nut too...
Somehow, I don't want to accociate myself with normal people...I don't have any gun(s)...nor plan to get one...
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not sure if serious.

Hitler was never elected to anything.
 
Don Vito Corleone said:
Good news! I hope that kiddo is not too traumatized by this. God knows what may have gone on inside that bunker.
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Talk about wild fucking speculation. Got anything beyond fecal matter to back that up?

I've not seen one report that anything untoward went on, and several that the gunman was apparently trying to keep the kid as happy as reasonably possible.
 
TerryMathews said:
Talk about wild fucking speculation. Got anything beyond fecal matter to back that up?

I've not seen one report that anything untoward went on, and several that the gunman was apparently trying to keep the kid as happy as reasonably possible.
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Agree, Pure BS from him, How dare he make that claim without any proof😡. I agree with your second point, The abductor allowed the police to deliver food for the boy along with crayons and coloring books to keep him calm.
 
TerryMathews said:
Talk about wild fucking speculation. Got anything beyond fecal matter to back that up?

I've not seen one report that anything untoward went on, and several that the gunman was apparently trying to keep the kid as happy as reasonably possible.
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Why are you being such an asshole? You are defending the honor of a murderer and child kidnapper, for no apparent reason. On the plus side, you apparently have this forum's most useless ALTroll on your side.

This poor kid was the hostage of a crazy man for days. I wasn't "claiming," nor even implying, that anything in particular happened, but I'm sure it was an incredibly traumatic experience for him.
 
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TerryMathews said:
Talk about wild fucking speculation. Got anything beyond fecal matter to back that up?

I've not seen one report that anything untoward went on, and several that the gunman was apparently trying to keep the kid as happy as reasonably possible.
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What the what?

Not knowing the full details, maybe the part where the guy was killed might be traumatic. You seem to be extrapolating a lot from a brief post...
 
TerryMathews said:
Talk about wild fucking speculation. Got anything beyond fecal matter to back that up?

I've not seen one report that anything untoward went on, and several that the gunman was apparently trying to keep the kid as happy as reasonably possible.
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Right, because it's perfectly normal to kidnap a kid and keep him in a bunker with you for 6 days after murdering a bus driver in front a bunch of children. You're a fucking idiot.
 
TerryMathews said:
Talk about wild fucking speculation. Got anything beyond fecal matter to back that up?

I've not seen one report that anything untoward went on, and several that the gunman was apparently trying to keep the kid as happy as reasonably possible.
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Incorruptible said:
Agree, Pure BS from him, How dare he make that claim without any proof😡. I agree with your second point, The abductor allowed the police to deliver food for the boy along with crayons and coloring books to keep him calm.
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Are you both retarded?
Ok, sorry, I know Incorruptible is, but that isn't an excuse for you Terry.

Watching some guy kill someone else and then be locked in a bunker for 6 days with the killer, and then possibly watch him be killed (or commit suicide) himself isn't in any way traumatic?
 
jackstar7 said:
What the what?

Not knowing the full details, maybe the part where the guy was killed might be traumatic. You seem to be extrapolating a lot from a brief post...
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Don Vito Corleone said:
Why are you being such an asshole? You are defending the honor of a murderer and child kidnapper, for no apparent reason. On the plus side, you apparently have this forum's most useless ALTroll on your side.

This poor kid was the hostage of a crazy man for days. I wasn't "claiming," nor even implying, that anything in particular happened, but I'm sure it was an incredibly traumatic experience for him.
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Don, don't back down now. You clearly were implying more.

You said "God knows what happened down there". Obviously, you weren't talking about the abductor being killed, we knew that had happened. What were you implying happened to that little boy?

I'm not defending anyone's honor. He was a kidnapper and a murderer, and probably crazy to boot. And that kid will have to deal with a lot.

You just making it up as you go like you're Doctor Phil is a little much though.
 
TerryMathews said:
Don, don't back down now. You clearly were implying more.

You said "God knows what happened down there". Obviously, you weren't talking about the abductor being killed, we knew that had happened. What were you implying happened to that little boy?

I'm not defending anyone's honor. He was a kidnapper and a murderer, and probably crazy to boot. And that kid will have to deal with a lot.

You just making it up as you go like you're Doctor Phil is a little much though.
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I didn't make anything up. If you're saying I did, you are literally hallucinating.

This lunatic boarded a bus full of schoolchildren, demanded that two of them join him, for no apparent reason, and killed the driver when he resisted. At a bare minimum this guy was a known violent nutcase and this poor kid had to spend six days in a tiny bunker with him. At this point we have no idea about the details of what happened down there but I'm sure it wasn't fun and it may have included all manner of horrors. You are acting as though this was a walk in the park for this kid.

You sound like a total crackpot. I really am mystified by the goofiness of people here sometimes . . .
 
TerryMathews said:
Don, don't back down now. You clearly were implying more.

You said "God knows what happened down there". Obviously, you weren't talking about the abductor being killed, we knew that had happened. What were you implying happened to that little boy?

I'm not defending anyone's honor. He was a kidnapper and a murderer, and probably crazy to boot. And that kid will have to deal with a lot.

You just making it up as you go like you're Doctor Phil is a little much though.
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The zoo: You've gone to it.
 
Don Vito Corleone said:
I didn't make anything up. If you're saying I did, you are literally hallucinating.

This lunatic boarded a bus full of schoolchildren, demanded that two of them join him, for no apparent reason, and killed the driver when he resisted. At a bare minimum this guy was a known violent nutcase and this poor kid had to spend six days in a tiny bunker with him. At this point we have no idea about the details of what happened down there but I'm sure it wasn't fun and it may have included all manner of horrors. You are acting as though this was a walk in the park for this kid.

You sound like a total crackpot. I really am mystified by the goofiness of people here sometimes . . .
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See, there we go. You ARE insinuating that "something else" happened down there.

I never once said it was a walk in the park for the kid. What I took issue with, and will continue to do so, is you literally making shit up. No one, not one person, has suggested that anything happened in the bunker beyond what was reported.

You're doing the very thing you chastise others for doing in different threads: speculating without any evidence.

http://my.chicagotribune.com/#story/chi-alabama-hostage-20130204/

They say here the boy was physically unharmed. And the sheriff thanked the hostage taker for allowing them to deliver supplies and medicine for the boy.

Finally, the FBI had the bunker under surveillance for the past day. http://abcnews.go.com/US/alabama-hostage-standoff-ends-swat-raid-jimmy-lee/story?id=18397405 So yes, they do know what happened in the bunker.

Isn't there enough here to talk about and condemn without making shit up?
 
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TerryMathews said:
See, there we go. You ARE insinuating that "something else" happened down there.

I never once said it was a walk in the park for the kid. What I took issue with, and will continue to do so, is you literally making shit up. No one, not one person, has suggested that anything happened in the bunker beyond what was reported.

You're doing the very thing you chastise others for doing in different threads: speculating without any evidence.

http://my.chicagotribune.com/#story/chi-alabama-hostage-20130204/

They say here the boy was physically unharmed. And the sheriff thanked the hostage taker for allowing them to deliver supplies and medicine for the boy.

Finally, the FBI had the bunker under surveillance for the past day. http://abcnews.go.com/US/alabama-hostage-standoff-ends-swat-raid-jimmy-lee/story?id=18397405 So yes, they do know what happened in the bunker.

Isn't there enough here to talk about and condemn without making shit up?
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They said he "appeared" physically unharmed, which just means no obvious wounds - this is hardly exculpatory. Moreover, the fact of the FBI camera was only now reported, hours after my post - I had no idea of that when I posted. I hardly think the sheriff's thanking Dykes is evidence of anything, other than their inclination to use a particular psychological tactic with him.

Unlike you (I assume), I have real world experiences working on cases involving child victims, including serial molestation and murder. Your hair trigger notwithstanding, everything about this case suggests that Dykes was completely nuts, and the most obvious explanation for why he wanted a child was for sexual purposes (whether or not that was actually the case). The incident very much reminds me of this one - http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-2057278.html - and that crime had a sexual motive. Even if that was not Dykes' motivation, there can be no question that this kid went through a hellish ordeal.

The fact that the only person in this thread who doesn't think you're being stupid is Incorruptible should tell you something.
 
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Don Vito Corleone said:
They said he "appeared" physically unharmed, which just means no obvious wounds - this is hardly exculpatory. Moreover, the fact of the FBI camera was only now reported, hours after my post - I had no idea of that when I posted. I hardly think the sheriff's thanking Dykes is evidence of anything, other than their inclination to use a particular psychological tactic with him.

Unlike you (I assume), I have real world experiences working on cases involving child victims, including serial molestation and murder. Your hair trigger notwithstanding, everything about this case suggests that Dykes was completely nuts, and the most obvious explanation for why he wanted a child was for sexual purposes (whether or not that was actually the case). The incident very much reminds me of this one - http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-2057278.html - and that crime had a sexual motive. Even if that was not Dykes' motivation, there can be no question that this kid went through a hellish ordeal.

The fact that the only person in this thread who doesn't think you're being stupid is Incorruptible should tell you something.
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So, I ask you again, who besides you is suggesting that he was molested?

I will give you credit though, at least you didn't back down. Soundforbjt is good about insinuating something and then backing away from it. Props for that.
 
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