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Nebor

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: bbdub333
Don't know why you'd worry about this Dave...with all the shit that comes out of your mouth, there's no way you're overweight.

He hasn't been able to look down and see his feet for a long time.

A bowl of generic bran flakes that every major grocer sells with 1% milk and a banana is cheap nutritious breakfast, a can of Albacore Tuna packed in water, some lettuce, a chopped up boiled egg and a tablespoon of Humus for dressing is cheap and highly nutritious lunch and a single half skinless chicken breast with some brown rice and cup of veggies is a great low cal nutritious dinner.

Add 30 minutes of cardio daily and any fat person should be able to lose enough weight to be considered healthy. Once Mr Chunky gets down to his fighting weight he can go out occasionally and have fast food, that is if he still has a taste for that crap.

Republicans telling us what to eat, big surprise :roll:

Red is a Republican? Since when? :confused:

Plus, that's just solid dietary advice he gave there, not 'telling us what to eat.'

And as Red looks 100x better at pushing 60 than you do at just over 40, Dave, you might want to think about it.

Sorry, he posts Republican ideals and always has.

Telling me or anyone else what to eat is not any different from Republicans telling us who we can or cannot screw behind closed doors.

It's providing for the general welfare, Dave (in both cases.) If the government would exercise a great deal more control and authority over the food market, we could easily reign in America's obesity problem. Simply eliminate unhealthy foods from peoples' choice sets. Less freedom to choose will result in a healthier, and ultimately happier population.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: bbdub333
Don't know why you'd worry about this Dave...with all the shit that comes out of your mouth, there's no way you're overweight.

He hasn't been able to look down and see his feet for a long time.

A bowl of generic bran flakes that every major grocer sells with 1% milk and a banana is cheap nutritious breakfast, a can of Albacore Tuna packed in water, some lettuce, a chopped up boiled egg and a tablespoon of Humus for dressing is cheap and highly nutritious lunch and a single half skinless chicken breast with some brown rice and cup of veggies is a great low cal nutritious dinner.

Add 30 minutes of cardio daily and any fat person should be able to lose enough weight to be considered healthy. Once Mr Chunky gets down to his fighting weight he can go out occasionally and have fast food, that is if he still has a taste for that crap.

Republicans telling us what to eat, big surprise :roll:

Red is a Republican? Since when? :confused:

Plus, that's just solid dietary advice he gave there, not 'telling us what to eat.'

And as Red looks 100x better at pushing 60 than you do at just over 40, Dave, you might want to think about it.

Sorry, he posts Republican ideals and always has.

Telling me or anyone else what to eat is not any different from Republicans telling us who we can or cannot screw behind closed doors.

It's providing for the general welfare, Dave (in both cases.) If the government would exercise a great deal more control and authority over the food market, we could easily reign in America's obesity problem. Simply eliminate unhealthy foods from peoples' choice sets. Less freedom to choose will result in a healthier, and ultimately happier population.


Why should we take away there choice though? This is a capitalistic country and freedom of choice is a major part of that. I say let them choose what they want to do with there bodies, but let them pay for the cost of taking care of them.
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: bbdub333
Don't know why you'd worry about this Dave...with all the shit that comes out of your mouth, there's no way you're overweight.

He hasn't been able to look down and see his feet for a long time.

A bowl of generic bran flakes that every major grocer sells with 1% milk and a banana is cheap nutritious breakfast, a can of Albacore Tuna packed in water, some lettuce, a chopped up boiled egg and a tablespoon of Humus for dressing is cheap and highly nutritious lunch and a single half skinless chicken breast with some brown rice and cup of veggies is a great low cal nutritious dinner.

Add 30 minutes of cardio daily and any fat person should be able to lose enough weight to be considered healthy. Once Mr Chunky gets down to his fighting weight he can go out occasionally and have fast food, that is if he still has a taste for that crap.

Republicans telling us what to eat, big surprise :roll:

Red is a Republican? Since when? :confused:

Plus, that's just solid dietary advice he gave there, not 'telling us what to eat.'

And as Red looks 100x better at pushing 60 than you do at just over 40, Dave, you might want to think about it.

Sorry, he posts Republican ideals and always has.

Telling me or anyone else what to eat is not any different from Republicans telling us who we can or cannot screw behind closed doors.

It's providing for the general welfare, Dave (in both cases.) If the government would exercise a great deal more control and authority over the food market, we could easily reign in America's obesity problem. Simply eliminate unhealthy foods from peoples' choice sets. Less freedom to choose will result in a healthier, and ultimately happier population.


Why should we take away there choice though? This is a capitalistic country and freedom of choice is a major part of that. I say let them choose what they want to do with there bodies, but let them pay for the cost of taking care of them.

Eventually the government must bear the cost and the responsibility of their choices, so their choices must be tailored to be more acceptable. Capitalism and freedom are grand ideals, but in reality, the same healthy meal every day is for the best.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: bbdub333
Don't know why you'd worry about this Dave...with all the shit that comes out of your mouth, there's no way you're overweight.

He hasn't been able to look down and see his feet for a long time.

A bowl of generic bran flakes that every major grocer sells with 1% milk and a banana is cheap nutritious breakfast, a can of Albacore Tuna packed in water, some lettuce, a chopped up boiled egg and a tablespoon of Humus for dressing is cheap and highly nutritious lunch and a single half skinless chicken breast with some brown rice and cup of veggies is a great low cal nutritious dinner.

Add 30 minutes of cardio daily and any fat person should be able to lose enough weight to be considered healthy. Once Mr Chunky gets down to his fighting weight he can go out occasionally and have fast food, that is if he still has a taste for that crap.

Republicans telling us what to eat, big surprise :roll:

Red is a Republican? Since when? :confused:

Plus, that's just solid dietary advice he gave there, not 'telling us what to eat.'

And as Red looks 100x better at pushing 60 than you do at just over 40, Dave, you might want to think about it.

Sorry, he posts Republican ideals and always has.

Telling me or anyone else what to eat is not any different from Republicans telling us who we can or cannot screw behind closed doors.

It's providing for the general welfare, Dave (in both cases.) If the government would exercise a great deal more control and authority over the food market, we could easily reign in America's obesity problem. Simply eliminate unhealthy foods from peoples' choice sets. Less freedom to choose will result in a healthier, and ultimately happier population.


Why should we take away there choice though? This is a capitalistic country and freedom of choice is a major part of that. I say let them choose what they want to do with there bodies, but let them pay for the cost of taking care of them.

Eventually the government must bear the cost and the responsibility of their choices, so their choices must be tailored to be more acceptable. Capitalism and freedom are grand ideals, but in reality, the same healthy meal every day is for the best.

Of course, so is banning smoking, alchohol and anything else unhealthy. The goverment could go to great lenghts to control the population to protect ourselves from ourself. I support the type of things happening right now (banning transfats) items that ae easily replacable with healthier options. I don't know if I would support giving my entire life over to the goverment because some people can't control there life. As I said, I would rather see them get there healthscare dropped and die an early death than support them, and that should be the way it should happen.
 

Balt

Lifer
Mar 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: bbdub333
Don't know why you'd worry about this Dave...with all the shit that comes out of your mouth, there's no way you're overweight.

He hasn't been able to look down and see his feet for a long time.

A bowl of generic bran flakes that every major grocer sells with 1% milk and a banana is cheap nutritious breakfast, a can of Albacore Tuna packed in water, some lettuce, a chopped up boiled egg and a tablespoon of Humus for dressing is cheap and highly nutritious lunch and a single half skinless chicken breast with some brown rice and cup of veggies is a great low cal nutritious dinner.

Add 30 minutes of cardio daily and any fat person should be able to lose enough weight to be considered healthy. Once Mr Chunky gets down to his fighting weight he can go out occasionally and have fast food, that is if he still has a taste for that crap.

Republicans telling us what to eat, big surprise :roll:

Red is a Republican? Since when? :confused:

Plus, that's just solid dietary advice he gave there, not 'telling us what to eat.'

And as Red looks 100x better at pushing 60 than you do at just over 40, Dave, you might want to think about it.

Sorry, he posts Republican ideals and always has.

Telling me or anyone else what to eat is not any different from Republicans telling us who we can or cannot screw behind closed doors.

It's providing for the general welfare, Dave (in both cases.) If the government would exercise a great deal more control and authority over the food market, we could easily reign in America's obesity problem. Simply eliminate unhealthy foods from peoples' choice sets. Less freedom to choose will result in a healthier, and ultimately happier population.


Why should we take away there choice though? This is a capitalistic country and freedom of choice is a major part of that. I say let them choose what they want to do with there bodies, but let them pay for the cost of taking care of them.

Eventually the government must bear the cost and the responsibility of their choices, so their choices must be tailored to be more acceptable. Capitalism and freedom are grand ideals, but in reality, the same healthy meal every day is for the best.

:roll:

How about instead we just continue to punish people who do their best to live healthily by eating right and exercising by making them pay more for people who can't get off their ass and put down the damn cheeseburgers?

Eat whatever you want and live as poorly as you want, but stop expecting other people to pick up the slack just because you won't accept personal responsibility.
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Telling me or anyone else what to eat is not any different from Republicans telling us who we can or cannot screw behind closed doors.

It's providing for the general welfare, Dave (in both cases.)

If the government would exercise a great deal more control and authority over the food market, we could easily reign in America's obesity problem.

Simply eliminate unhealthy foods from peoples' choice sets.

Less freedom to choose will result in a healthier, and ultimately happier population.

May I suggest a more suited country to your ideal of general welfare of the population, like say North Korea.

Please go there immediately.
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Telling me or anyone else what to eat is not any different from Republicans telling us who we can or cannot screw behind closed doors.

It's providing for the general welfare, Dave (in both cases.)

If the government would exercise a great deal more control and authority over the food market, we could easily reign in America's obesity problem.

Simply eliminate unhealthy foods from peoples' choice sets.

Less freedom to choose will result in a healthier, and ultimately happier population.

May I suggest a more suited country to your ideal of general welfare of the population, like say North Korea.

Please go there immediately.

I rather like the weather here, and this place is well on it's way. As I'm sure you know, it's a short jump from corporatism to authoritarianism.
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: Balt
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: bbdub333
Don't know why you'd worry about this Dave...with all the shit that comes out of your mouth, there's no way you're overweight.

He hasn't been able to look down and see his feet for a long time.

A bowl of generic bran flakes that every major grocer sells with 1% milk and a banana is cheap nutritious breakfast, a can of Albacore Tuna packed in water, some lettuce, a chopped up boiled egg and a tablespoon of Humus for dressing is cheap and highly nutritious lunch and a single half skinless chicken breast with some brown rice and cup of veggies is a great low cal nutritious dinner.

Add 30 minutes of cardio daily and any fat person should be able to lose enough weight to be considered healthy. Once Mr Chunky gets down to his fighting weight he can go out occasionally and have fast food, that is if he still has a taste for that crap.

Republicans telling us what to eat, big surprise :roll:

Red is a Republican? Since when? :confused:

Plus, that's just solid dietary advice he gave there, not 'telling us what to eat.'

And as Red looks 100x better at pushing 60 than you do at just over 40, Dave, you might want to think about it.

Sorry, he posts Republican ideals and always has.

Telling me or anyone else what to eat is not any different from Republicans telling us who we can or cannot screw behind closed doors.

It's providing for the general welfare, Dave (in both cases.) If the government would exercise a great deal more control and authority over the food market, we could easily reign in America's obesity problem. Simply eliminate unhealthy foods from peoples' choice sets. Less freedom to choose will result in a healthier, and ultimately happier population.


Why should we take away there choice though? This is a capitalistic country and freedom of choice is a major part of that. I say let them choose what they want to do with there bodies, but let them pay for the cost of taking care of them.

Eventually the government must bear the cost and the responsibility of their choices, so their choices must be tailored to be more acceptable. Capitalism and freedom are grand ideals, but in reality, the same healthy meal every day is for the best.

:roll:

How about instead we just continue to punish people who do their best to live healthily by eating right and exercising by making them pay more for people who can't get off their ass and put down the damn cheeseburgers?

Eat whatever you want and live as poorly as you want, but stop expecting other people to pick up the slack just because you won't accept personal responsibility.

I might concede to a special store (one in every major city) that was allowed to stock unhealthy foods. In order to shop there you would need to prove that you yourself are very healthy, exercise regularly, etc. You would then be issued a registration card allowing you to shop at the special store, though the quantity of your purchases would still be limited. And transfer of unhealthy foods to unlicensed people would be harshly punished.
 

quest55720

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: bbdub333
Don't know why you'd worry about this Dave...with all the shit that comes out of your mouth, there's no way you're overweight.

He hasn't been able to look down and see his feet for a long time.

A bowl of generic bran flakes that every major grocer sells with 1% milk and a banana is cheap nutritious breakfast, a can of Albacore Tuna packed in water, some lettuce, a chopped up boiled egg and a tablespoon of Humus for dressing is cheap and highly nutritious lunch and a single half skinless chicken breast with some brown rice and cup of veggies is a great low cal nutritious dinner.

Add 30 minutes of cardio daily and any fat person should be able to lose enough weight to be considered healthy. Once Mr Chunky gets down to his fighting weight he can go out occasionally and have fast food, that is if he still has a taste for that crap.

Republicans telling us what to eat, big surprise :roll:

Red is a Republican? Since when? :confused:

Plus, that's just solid dietary advice he gave there, not 'telling us what to eat.'

And as Red looks 100x better at pushing 60 than you do at just over 40, Dave, you might want to think about it.

Sorry, he posts Republican ideals and always has.

Telling me or anyone else what to eat is not any different from Republicans telling us who we can or cannot screw behind closed doors.

Eat what you want, smoke, drink or what ever does not matter to me. That choice will in the future will make the cost of your health insurance go up. It is only fair those at higher risk should have to pay more since they are a larger drain on the system. If you don't want to pay extra then eat better and excersize the choice is yours. The bad choices people make are one of the biggest reasons the cost of health care is out of control. If more people made better choices it would bring down the cost of insurance big time letting more people be covered.

I am sorry but food bans are complete crap. Why should I suffer because others have no self control? I like to eat bad foods time to time keeps me sane. I rather enjoy my weekly cheat meal of grilled burgers and a bowl of ice cream.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Sorry, he posts Republican ideals and always has.

Telling me or anyone else what to eat is not any different from Republicans telling us who we can or cannot screw behind closed doors.
No, he doesn't and never has, just like he didn't tell you what to eat here.


Originally posted by: nkgreen
:thumbsup:

pics of dave? :laugh:

From his own website
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Nebor
It's providing for the general welfare, Dave (in both cases.) If the government would exercise a great deal more control and authority over the food market, we could easily reign in America's obesity problem. Simply eliminate unhealthy foods from peoples' choice sets. Less freedom to choose will result in a healthier, and ultimately happier population.

Actually, the issue is not that the government needs more control and authority over the food market to reign in the obesity problem, it just needs to stop pushing and subsidizing unhealthy choices.
The only reason people can say that unhealthy fast food can be cheaper than healthy fresh foods is because the government subsidizes most that sh!t and/or takes a active role in food regulation that favors it (either through corruption or antiquated, misguided ideas about nutrition, i.e. enriched white bread is healthier than whole wheat, etc.).
 

quest55720

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Nebor
It's providing for the general welfare, Dave (in both cases.) If the government would exercise a great deal more control and authority over the food market, we could easily reign in America's obesity problem. Simply eliminate unhealthy foods from peoples' choice sets. Less freedom to choose will result in a healthier, and ultimately happier population.

Actually, the issue is not that the government needs more control and authority over the food market to reign in the obesity problem, it just needs to stop pushing and subsidizing unhealthy choices.
The only reason people can say that unhealthy fast food can be cheaper than healthy fresh foods is because the government subsidizes most that sh!t and/or takes a active role in food regulation that favors it (either through corruption or antiquated, misguided ideas about nutrition, i.e. enriched white bread is healthier than whole wheat, etc.).

It is not the cost of food that is just bullshit for the most part. It is an excuse the real reason that people are lazy period. They would rather put a frozen pizza in the oven for 12 minutes than to cook a meal. A person can eat healthy on a budget you just have to put some sweat equity into it. I have done both I have done the 2-3 times a day eating fast food and I have done healthy. It costs me much less to eat healthy than it ever did to eat out 2-3 times a day. It just costs me a few hours of a week between cooking and cleaning up.
 

classy

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There is nothing wrong with what they are doing. Obesity is killing this country. So many ailments are being caused by just plain ole being fat. Time something gets done.
 

Balt

Lifer
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Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Nebor
It's providing for the general welfare, Dave (in both cases.) If the government would exercise a great deal more control and authority over the food market, we could easily reign in America's obesity problem. Simply eliminate unhealthy foods from peoples' choice sets. Less freedom to choose will result in a healthier, and ultimately happier population.

Actually, the issue is not that the government needs more control and authority over the food market to reign in the obesity problem, it just needs to stop pushing and subsidizing unhealthy choices.
The only reason people can say that unhealthy fast food can be cheaper than healthy fresh foods is because the government subsidizes most that sh!t and/or takes a active role in food regulation that favors it (either through corruption or antiquated, misguided ideas about nutrition, i.e. enriched white bread is healthier than whole wheat, etc.).

It is not the cost of food that is just bullshit for the most part. It is an excuse the real reason that people are lazy period. They would rather put a frozen pizza in the oven for 12 minutes than to cook a meal. A person can eat healthy on a budget you just have to put some sweat equity into it. I have done both I have done the 2-3 times a day eating fast food and I have done healthy. It costs me much less to eat healthy than it ever did to eat out 2-3 times a day. It just costs me a few hours of a week between cooking and cleaning up.

Agreed. Also many people have trained themselves not to like the taste of something unless it's loaded with unhealthy condiments. Food can taste quite good without being doused with sugar, butter, and mayo. People just need to wean themselves off of it so that their tastebuds actually work again. It's hard at first but it gets much easier as time passes if you stick with it.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: bbdub333
Don't know why you'd worry about this Dave...with all the shit that comes out of your mouth, there's no way you're overweight.

He hasn't been able to look down and see his feet for a long time.

A bowl of generic bran flakes that every major grocer sells with 1% milk and a banana is cheap nutritious breakfast, a can of Albacore Tuna packed in water, some lettuce, a chopped up boiled egg and a tablespoon of Humus for dressing is cheap and highly nutritious lunch and a single half skinless chicken breast with some brown rice and cup of veggies is a great low cal nutritious dinner.

Add 30 minutes of cardio daily and any fat person should be able to lose enough weight to be considered healthy. Once Mr Chunky gets down to his fighting weight he can go out occasionally and have fast food, that is if he still has a taste for that crap.

Republicans telling us what to eat, big surprise :roll:

Red is a Republican? Since when? :confused:

Plus, that's just solid dietary advice he gave there, not 'telling us what to eat.'

And as Red looks 100x better at pushing 60 than you do at just over 40, Dave, you might want to think about it.

Sorry, he posts Republican ideals and always has.

Telling me or anyone else what to eat is not any different from Republicans telling us who we can or cannot screw behind closed doors.
LOL, I'm not telling you what to eat I was just pointing out to those that are interested in bettering themselves physically that one can eat nutritious meals without having to spend a lot of money. You obviously aren't interested.

BTW the Wingnuts on the Right call me a Liberal and the Loons on the Left call me a Republican, I guess that makes me a Moderate. I can live with that.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: quest55720
[I am sorry but food bans are complete crap. Why should I suffer because others have no self control? I like to eat bad foods time to time keeps me sane. I rather enjoy my weekly cheat meal of grilled burgers and a bowl of ice cream.
I agree 100%. There's nothing wrong with having an occasional bowl of Ice Cream or a Charbroiled Steak slathered in butter. Both have nutritional value, especially the steak, but you just can't eat like that daily and expect not to have adverse effects from it, obesity being one of those.

That said if a person chooses to eat an unhealthy diet that's his business but it's the Insurance business when it comes to offering health coverage for an unhealthy lifestyle and it's their prerogative to charge more for it.
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Nebor

Eventually the government must bear the cost and the responsibility of their choices, so their choices must be tailored to be more acceptable. Capitalism and freedom are grand ideals, but in reality, the same healthy meal every day is for the best.

Of course, so is banning smoking, alchohol and anything else unhealthy. The goverment could go to great lenghts to control the population to protect ourselves from ourself. I support the type of things happening right now (banning transfats) items that ae easily replacable with healthier options. I don't know if I would support giving my entire life over to the goverment because some people can't control there life. As I said, I would rather see them get there healthscare dropped and die an early death than support them, and that should be the way it should happen.

Kind of difficult to drop anything once $1 trillion Obamacare kicks off.

Maybe he can pay me for being thin.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Wingnuts on the Right call me a Liberal and the Loons on the Left call me a Republican,

I guess that makes me a Moderate.

I can live with that.

Not exactly.

Normally those in the description as you just said I would label as American but your posts most certainly lean towards Authoritarianism which is what the Republicans hold to.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Wingnuts on the Right call me a Liberal and the Loons on the Left call me a Republican,

I guess that makes me a Moderate.

I can live with that.

Not exactly.

Normally those in the description as you just said I would label as American but your posts most certainly lean towards Authoritarianism which is what the Republicans hold to.
I'm devastated as your opinions are revered, no wait they aren't, in fact they are about as disregarded as opinions can be so I guess I'm cool with you thinking that of me.
 

alphatarget1

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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Umm have you looked food prices lately? I'm not trying to be a smart ass. I know from experience. Eating fast food IS cheaper than eating healthy. Having lost 50+lbs in about 5 months, I have probably spent twice as much money on food. Its worth it in the long run but sure hits the pocket hard.

You spend at least 5 dollars on a fast food meal (unless you eat only the dollar menu). 5 dollars is more than enough to eat healthy with... Just eat a little less, it won't hurt you.
 

OulOat

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The board will apply the obesity charge to anyone with a body mass index of 35 or higher who is not making progress. A person 5 feet 6 inches tall weighing 220 pounds, for example, would have a BMI of 35.5. A BMI of 30 is considered the threshold for obesity.

They are only charging the grossly obese who aren't trying to lose weight.

link
 

Bowfinger

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By the way, there are a lot of private sector companies doing this as well. Everyone's looking for ways to hold down health insurance costs. Yes, it's intrusive, but it will only get worse as long as most Americans are willing to tolerate it.
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Nebor
It's providing for the general welfare, Dave (in both cases.) If the government would exercise a great deal more control and authority over the food market, we could easily reign in America's obesity problem. Simply eliminate unhealthy foods from peoples' choice sets. Less freedom to choose will result in a healthier, and ultimately happier population.

Actually, the issue is not that the government needs more control and authority over the food market to reign in the obesity problem, it just needs to stop pushing and subsidizing unhealthy choices.
The only reason people can say that unhealthy fast food can be cheaper than healthy fresh foods is because the government subsidizes most that sh!t and/or takes a active role in food regulation that favors it (either through corruption or antiquated, misguided ideas about nutrition, i.e. enriched white bread is healthier than whole wheat, etc.).

The government is subsiding unhealthy food...

Why? :confused:
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
By the way, there are a lot of private sector companies doing this as well. Everyone's looking for ways to hold down health insurance costs. Yes, it's intrusive, but it will only get worse as long as most Americans are willing to tolerate it.

Are you inplying this practice should be illegal?

Drive Poor = Higher Insurance, sometimes mandatory driver education courses
Eat Poor = Higher Insurance, optional health education courses