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Al Sharpton calls for ban on violence in music

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isasir

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While I admire Sharpton for taking this stance, is this the first time that he's, in essence, gong AGAINST African-Americans, since it's primarily this ethnicity that produces a lot of the gangsta music?

I"ve always had a like/hate relationship with the guy (primarily hate). Sometimes he's way too quick to judge, but other times, he seems alright.

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NEW YORK (AP) _ Rev. Al Sharpton said he will propose a 90-day ban on radio and television airplay for any performer who uses violence in their music to make a profit.

The activist and former presidential candidate plans to ask the Federal Communications Commission and major radio broadcasters around the country to support the ban.

"There has to be a way to step in and regulate what's going on with the airwaves and with violence," Sharpton told the Daily News in Monday editions. "The airwaves are being used to romanticize urban violence."

Sharpton's announcement follows last week's shooting at the WQHT-FM studios that was suspected to be started by a feud between rappers 50 Cent and The Game. Kevin Reed, a 24-year-old member of The Game's entourage was shot in the leg in the lobby of Hot 97 soon after 50 Cent said he was booting The Game from his G-Unit clique.

"We may not be able to stop people from shooting, but we can stop people from profiting from the violence," said Sharpton.

He said that he would not try to broker peace between artists and would not comment specifically on the feud between the two rappers. But he said in a letter he plans to send to the FCC and broadcast networks that the outcry against violence in music should get as much attention as Janet Jackson's Super Bowl "wardrobe malfunction."

"I recall the outrage that the FCC and others displayed in response to the Super Bowl performance of Jackson," Sharpton wrote. "Yet, when acts of violence happen around radio stations that actually have caused bloodshed, there has been a strange and disturbing silence from all quarters."
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Yes and No. While AA's are at the front line as the ones that create this garbage the real power is in the poeople that purchase it (mainly white) and those that distirbute and market this stuff (guess who) I think it is pretty weak/ unamerican to call to "ban" any type of music. But it good someone has finnaly drawn attention to something like this. Anywho, there are many many Metal bands that have music that is far beyond anything that gangster rap has to offer in terms of violence. Why do we keep this out of the conversation? Im a metal head myself and i could name some off the top of my head.
 
Well hip hop (I think) has a much larger audience than metal does. As the article states, this decision of Sharpton's is stemming from the violence between two hip hop artists last week.

You're right that it does affect white people from a distribution and purchasing standpoint, but I don't know if I'd go so far as to say that this was Sharpton's target in this case.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
He is a total, absolute, tried-and-true dumb ass.
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C'mon now, you know you won't complain if Al can cost 50 Cent lost revenue. 🙂

(I still remember never knowing WTF 50 Cent was until I saw a thread of yours bitching about 'Wanksta')
 
Anywho, there are many many Metal bands that have music that is far beyond anything that gangster rap has to offer in terms of violence. Why do we keep this out of the conversation? Im a metal head myself and i could name some off the top of my head.
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Because rock and metal music have largely communicated to the angst of white suburban kids, who pass their rebellious stage and assume the mold of well mannered, responsible, middle class corporate America...while most metal heads, including myself, raise our fist in the air and scream hell yeah whenever our rock idols suggest blowing crap up and destroying commercialism and the fabric of modern society, in the morning we put on our suit and tie and go to work like responsible adults.

Certainly rock music glorifies treating women like crap and substance abuse, hardly beneficial to society, but then again metal heads don't roam the streets in groups defending their turf and shooting up the neighborhoods of rival gangs...never heard of Metallica fans conducting drive by shootings on the houses of Megadeth fans.

Rap music on the other hand has glorified and commercialized the image of gang life, which permeates and perpetuates the problems that plague many inner city neighborhoods.

Yes and No. While AA's are at the front line as the ones that create this garbage the real power is in the poeople that purchase it (mainly white) and those that distirbute and market this stuff (guess who)
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Most rap artists have their own record labels, or work for labels owned by other African-Americans...remember the whole TPac, Biggy fiasco, where the tough street talk of rap infiltrated the corporate offices of the rap labels.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
He is a total, absolute, tried-and-true dumb ass.
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Why? Because he's pointing out the truth?

"I recall the outrage that the FCC and others displayed in response to the Super Bowl performance of Jackson," Sharpton wrote. "Yet, when acts of violence happen around radio stations that actually have caused bloodshed, there has been a strange and disturbing silence from all quarters."
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Kids can watch and hear all the blood and gore and violence they want but let them see sex (a natural instinct in human beings) and OMG!! STOP THE PRESSES!
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Skoorb
He is a total, absolute, tried-and-true dumb ass.
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Why? Because he's pointing out the truth?

"I recall the outrage that the FCC and others displayed in response to the Super Bowl performance of Jackson," Sharpton wrote. "Yet, when acts of violence happen around radio stations that actually have caused bloodshed, there has been a strange and disturbing silence from all quarters."
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Kids can watch and hear all the blood and gore and violence they want but let them see sex (a natural instinct in human beings) and OMG!! STOP THE PRESSES!
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Janet Jackson's breast is more lethal than any weapon.

:roll:

 
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Skoorb
He is a total, absolute, tried-and-true dumb ass.
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Why? Because he's pointing out the truth?

"I recall the outrage that the FCC and others displayed in response to the Super Bowl performance of Jackson," Sharpton wrote. "Yet, when acts of violence happen around radio stations that actually have caused bloodshed, there has been a strange and disturbing silence from all quarters."
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Kids can watch and hear all the blood and gore and violence they want but let them see sex (a natural instinct in human beings) and OMG!! STOP THE PRESSES!
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Janet Jackson's breast is more lethal than any weapon.

:roll:
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the most lethal weapon is the parental nonchalance in regards to their moral obligation to raise their own children. my daughters are two and they know the feeling of an open hand across the behind. take responsibility for your kids, people. money is trivial..... beat your kids and let them know you care.

 
Originally posted by: slurmsmackenzie
the most lethal weapon is the parental nonchalance in regards to their moral obligation to raise their own children. my daughters are two and they know the feeling of an open hand across the behind. take responsibility for your kids, people. money is trivial..... beat your kids and let them know you care.
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:roll: What started out so right went so very, very wrong . . .
 
Originally posted by: irwincur
I am sure that he wants to ban to only apply to white artists.
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And... why are you sure of that? As far as this goes, I don't think Sharpton is actually calling for the censorship of violence in music, but rather trying to demonstrate the hypocrisy in attempting to ban displays of sexuality but not of violence.
 
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: slurmsmackenzie
the most lethal weapon is the parental nonchalance in regards to their moral obligation to raise their own children. my daughters are two and they know the feeling of an open hand across the behind. take responsibility for your kids, people. money is trivial..... beat your kids and let them know you care.
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:roll: What started out so right went so very, very wrong . . .
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i use the word "beat" lightly. of course don't draw blood, but don't be afraid that your kids won't love you if you lay into them every so often. don't disrespect them, or hit out of anger, but an immediate stimuli... pain can provide the understanding that not following the rules equals undesired results.

 
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: irwincur
I am sure that he wants to ban to only apply to white artists.
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And... why are you sure of that? As far as this goes, I don't think Sharpton is actually calling for the censorship of violence in music, but rather trying to demonstrate the hypocrisy in attempting to ban displays of sexuality but not of violence.
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While there is some truth to what you say, please note the ratings on the mentioned cd's and albums are most likely "M," while the superbowl is a family-oriented event which was nationally broadcasted.
 
Why? Because he's pointing out the truth?
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Because I don't hail hitler, is why. You can't ban music simply because it contains violent material. Next you'll be banning movies and books with the same argument. Is this music rubbish? Abso-freaking-lutely, but that doesn't mean al is any less of a bottom-feeding buffoon for trying to ban it.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Why? Because he's pointing out the truth?
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Because I don't hail hitler, is why. You can't ban music simply because it contains violent material. Next you'll be banning movies and books with the same argument. Is this music rubbish? Abso-freaking-lutely, but that doesn't mean al is any less of a bottom-feeding buffoon for trying to ban it.
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Consider it a temporary injunction, then. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Why? Because he's pointing out the truth?
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Because I don't hail hitler, is why. You can't ban music simply because it contains violent material. Next you'll be banning movies and books with the same argument. Is this music rubbish? Abso-freaking-lutely, but that doesn't mean al is any less of a bottom-feeding buffoon for trying to ban it.
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Well he's not banning music, but the airplay of this music. There's a ton of good music that I'm not going to hear when I turn on the radio. Why? Because companies like Clearchannel make it so.

Hell, a station her in NY has been playing music from a local band, and it's like this whole f'n deal, since he acknowledges that radio stations don't normally do that.
 
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: irwincur
I am sure that he wants to ban to only apply to white artists.
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And... why are you sure of that? As far as this goes, I don't think Sharpton is actually calling for the censorship of violence in music, but rather trying to demonstrate the hypocrisy in attempting to ban displays of sexuality but not of violence.
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While there is some truth to what you say, please note the ratings on the mentioned cd's and albums are most likely "M," while the superbowl is a family-oriented event which was nationally broadcasted.
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This music is broadcasted throughout the country on both radio and television, which is the venue in which he is proposing a ban. I understand that the Superbowl is a very prolific event, but... children don't tend to flock to the stations designated for them. They listen to what their older friends/relatives listen to, which will be on stations like BET and Hot97 (NYC radio station).

 
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Anywho, there are many many Metal bands that have music that is far beyond anything that gangster rap has to offer in terms of violence. Why do we keep this out of the conversation? Im a metal head myself and i could name some off the top of my head.
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Because rock and metal music have largely communicated to the angst of white suburban kids, who pass their rebellious stage and assume the mold of well mannered, responsible, middle class corporate America...while most metal heads, including myself, raise our fist in the air and scream hell yeah whenever our rock idols suggest blowing crap up and destroying commercialism and the fabric of modern society, in the morning we put on our suit and tie and go to work like responsible adults.

Certainly rock music glorifies treating women like crap and substance abuse, hardly beneficial to society, but then again metal heads don't roam the streets in groups defending their turf and shooting up the neighborhoods of rival gangs...never heard of Metallica fans conducting drive by shootings on the houses of Megadeth fans.

Rap music on the other hand has glorified and commercialized the image of gang life, which permeates and perpetuates the problems that plague many inner city neighborhoods.

Yes and No. While AA's are at the front line as the ones that create this garbage the real power is in the poeople that purchase it (mainly white) and those that distirbute and market this stuff (guess who)
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Most rap artists have their own record labels, or work for labels owned by other African-Americans...remember the whole TPac, Biggy fiasco, where the tough street talk of rap infiltrated the corporate offices of the rap labels.
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1. NO real rap labels are fully self owned - NONE of them do their own distrobution. Everyone that you see on TV as a rapper is owned and distributed by someone other than their own label. If you dont understand how it goes its like this: You sell drugs on the corner, you get them from a guy in the "hood" to sell. All money eventually goes back to bob living in the suburbs.

2. Poor people that listen to rock music dont simply - put on a suit and got to work like a responsible adults. They live the same tired lives of crime, drugs, alcohol , and poverty. They are the same drug users and drop outs that every place has. BUT no one attaches that to the music they listen to, nore do they just add on hard drug usage and teen suicide either. There are all kinds of comparisons we can make. In the end you have a bunch of people that are making this stuff and a bunch of labels (that are only in the best intrest of their own pockets and not the community that is affected most by this - but who blames them) that dictates what is made and who can and cant do what. ie: MTV feuding with the creators of hip hop on when hip hop month was. I listen to rap and metal and i live a decent and moral life and pay taxes. If your poor you can be influenced by anything, you can blame it all on music but this stuff doenst help. its not the food for the soul that i think about.
 
Originally posted by: slurmsmackenzie
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: slurmsmackenzie
the most lethal weapon is the parental nonchalance in regards to their moral obligation to raise their own children. my daughters are two and they know the feeling of an open hand across the behind. take responsibility for your kids, people. money is trivial..... beat your kids and let them know you care.
Click to expand...

:roll: What started out so right went so very, very wrong . . .
Click to expand...

i use the word "beat" lightly. of course don't draw blood, but don't be afraid that your kids won't love you if you lay into them every so often. don't disrespect them, or hit out of anger, but an immediate stimuli... pain can provide the understanding that not following the rules equals undesired results.
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While I don't agree with you 100%, I'll agree that today's parents are generally dropping the ball raising today's mall-rats. Throwing your kids into daycare most of their waking hours is not raising them, and feeling too lazy/guilty/'enlightened' to educate and discipline them isn't doing them or society any favors.
 
ding ding ding - thats it. People not Raising their kids the right way. My parent did not have the time - worked 2 or 3 jobs at times. We kind of raised ourselves and came out good. But seeing some of the places where i didnt but COULD HAVE grown up - East St. Louis: Kinlock. Monroe, LA. Their waslittle opportunity there and in a sense i can understand why people can have the "Frog in a Well" mentality. - if you have never heard - there are frogs that live in wells, when they look up they just see a little sky and thats it, the little stuff around them is all they know so its not that hard to just do what all the other frogs do. Anyway F' 50 Cent and "the game" they are both Sucka MC's that couldnt win a rhyme bout if their life depended on it.
 
Originally posted by: isasir
While I admire Sharpton for taking this stance, is this the first time that he's, in essence, gong AGAINST African-Americans, since it's primarily this ethnicity that produces a lot of the gangsta music?

I"ve always had a like/hate relationship with the guy (primarily hate). Sometimes he's way too quick to judge, but other times, he seems alright.

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NEW YORK (AP) _ Rev. Al Sharpton said he will propose a 90-day ban on radio and television airplay for any performer who uses violence in their music to make a profit.

The activist and former presidential candidate plans to ask the Federal Communications Commission and major radio broadcasters around the country to support the ban.

"There has to be a way to step in and regulate what's going on with the airwaves and with violence," Sharpton told the Daily News in Monday editions. "The airwaves are being used to romanticize urban violence."

Sharpton's announcement follows last week's shooting at the WQHT-FM studios that was suspected to be started by a feud between rappers 50 Cent and The Game. Kevin Reed, a 24-year-old member of The Game's entourage was shot in the leg in the lobby of Hot 97 soon after 50 Cent said he was booting The Game from his G-Unit clique.

"We may not be able to stop people from shooting, but we can stop people from profiting from the violence," said Sharpton.

He said that he would not try to broker peace between artists and would not comment specifically on the feud between the two rappers. But he said in a letter he plans to send to the FCC and broadcast networks that the outcry against violence in music should get as much attention as Janet Jackson's Super Bowl "wardrobe malfunction."

"I recall the outrage that the FCC and others displayed in response to the Super Bowl performance of Jackson," Sharpton wrote. "Yet, when acts of violence happen around radio stations that actually have caused bloodshed, there has been a strange and disturbing silence from all quarters."
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Can't provide any evidence, but I seriously doubt this is the first time he has spoken out against AA. As a Rev, it's quite normal to speak out against all kinds of things. I'd assume that 90+% of what he's spoken against has never reached the masses.
 
Anyone hear of freedom of speech? People profit from violence everyday. Surely he doesn't plan to fight against Warner Bros. for the Matrix? Amazing how people feel we need to be cleansed of all bad influences on people these days. You cannot cleanse a society of everything bad, because then we wouldn't be human anymore. God forbid that there'll only be a few Disney movies on the big screen, or that the only music we'll be allowed to listen to is Christian Rock.

I like Al Sharpton (mainly from his appearances on Boston Legal, in fact only because of that), but this is a clear attempt to violate artists freedom of speech.
 
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