Al-Qaida in Iraq "the only thing acceptable is a conversion or the sword."

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Pens1566
Clinton in Bosnia was part of a UN Force, with UN approval. He didn't have to "go to the UN' (whatever that means) because it was a UN effort in the first place.

Wrong, Clinton never went to the UN over Bosnia, it was a NATO force. Please post me a link showing Clinton getting any kind of permission from the UN for what he did in Bosnia.

What Pens posted is called a mistake. What Bush did was without sanction from any international coalition under the auspices of either NATO or the U.N., and the resolution he got from Congress has been proven to be all LIES.

What Bush has done is criminal. Everything YOU post shows you're just a troll and a lying, willing sycophantic accessory to his crimes.

Here, little boy. You need more...

 

[Craig234]

Yet another lie by Pabster to respond to.

"Another BAF member with war crimes accusations

We don't need to seek UN approval to defend and protect this country. And god willing, we never will. "

First the translation of "BAF" is "irresponsible". You are the enemy of the United States as a moral nation, encouraging her to act evilly.

The Iraq war was *not* a war of self defense. We *do* need to seek UN approval for wars which the charter bans - the charter we signed and pledged to follow.

I agree the US must not give up its right to *defend* itself without anyone's permission - and the Iraq war has nothing to do with that policy.

 

[dahunan]

Another miserable thing to add to all of this is that Paul Wolfowitz helped convince people that the Aggression in Iraq would pay for itself.. years later we have wasted 300+ BILLION DOLLARS and now that piece of ****** is

www.worldbank.org/wolfowitz

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Craig234

First the translation of "BAF" is "irresponsible". You are the enemy of the United States as a moral nation, encouraging her to act evilly.

No, the translation is Blame America First. Which you are quite familiar with, given you are a charter member.

The Iraq war was *not* a war of self defense. We *do* need to seek UN approval for wars which the charter bans - the charter we signed and pledged to follow.

Oh really? Are you saying Saddam was on the cusp of being reborn and was going to end all his weapons aspirations and become an ally of the US? Please, be realistic. Drop your talking points and WTFU. And don't even mention the UN; That corrupt organization has proven itself incompetent, ineffective, and unable to do its duty. It's a damn shame we're still funneling them billions of taxpayer dollars. Their "charter" is worth about as much as the 17 resolutions they gave Saddam which he so eloquently defied.

 

[Craig234]

"No, the translation is Blame America First. Which you are quite familiar with, given you are a charter member. "

No, the translation is irresponsible, as I said. You are a right-wing cult member who uses buzzwords like BAF in order to not actually do any thinking of your own on the issues.

Blame America Never would describe your group - thereby robbing America of her moral strength by giving her license to do anything without any accountability.

You are the force of evil in the world as one who opposes any fight for morality.

"Oh really? Are you saying Saddam was on the cusp of being reborn and was going to end all his weapons aspirations and become an ally of the US? Please, be realistic. Drop your talking points and WTFU. And don't even mention the UN; That corrupt organization has proven itself incompetent, ineffective, and unable to do its duty. It's a damn shame we're still funneling them billions of taxpayer dollars. Their "charter" is worth about as much as the 17 resolutions they gave Saddam which he so eloquently defied."

Excuse me, but other nations are free to hate us all they like without our going to war with them. Their hating us does NOT make attacking them self-defense.

To adopt the view that we can attack anyone who does not disarm and bow down to us and offer to be our 'ally/supplicant' is the view of an arrogant and tyrannical nation.

To quote a famous 'compassionate' person:

"If we're an arrogant nation, they'll resent us; if we're a humble nation, but strong, they'll welcome us. And our nation stands alone right now in the world in terms of power, and that's why we've got to be humble, and yet project strength in a way that promotes freedom."

That's the statement of your president, George Bush, when he was lying in 2000.

As for the UN - big surprise it has problems - we've caused a lot of them with a lack of support for it, abandoning better leaders' policies from Truman to JFK.

The UN is no better than its members, and we're the most powerful member by far.

Hugo Chavez critized the UN, too, you and he agree on that. He offered solutions.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Guess Pakistan wasn't that eager to help the US to start with in 2001:

The US threatened to bomb Pakistan "back to the stone age" unless it joined the fight against al-Qaeda, President Pervez Musharraf has said.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Another miserable thing to add to all of this is that Paul Wolfowitz helped convince people that the Aggression in Iraq would pay for itself.. years later we have wasted 300+ BILLION DOLLARS and now that piece of ****** is

www.worldbank.org/wolfowitz

And who is the 2nd in command behind Musharraf? Wolfowitz's Citibank buddy, Aziz.