Al Qaeda Leader: Materials Smuggled Across Border

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo says there's even a training camp in Brazil teaching Middle Easterners how to blend in to the Mexican culture.

LOL, it must be true then.

I am usually on your side (not that it matters to you) but .. did you try to search the net for any of this info?

It is true and even Hamas is there .. there is a lot of areas down there that are not in any govt's control and the money of al-qaeda buys anything they want

I am a firm believer that Mr Bush and the Neocons only made lives for Americans and Life in America MUCH WORSE in the long run by murdering so many Iraqi's

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Todd33

Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo says there's even a training camp in Brazil teaching Middle Easterners how to blend in to the Mexican culture.

LOL, it must be true then.

I am usually on your side (not that it matters to you) but .. did you try to search the net for any of this info?

It is true and even Hamas is there .. there is a lot of areas down there that are not in any govt's control and the money of al-qaeda buys anything they want

I am a firm believer that Mr Bush and the Neocons only made lives for Americans and Life in America MUCH WORSE in the long run by murdering so many Iraqi's

You, sir, are naive. Im not being apologetic by any stretch, but to blame Bush and the Iraq fiasco for Islam's hatered of America is very shortsighted. You DO know 9/11 was planned long before Bush was in office, right? You DO know that al qaeda et-al has a long standing hatred for America and what we represent...right? You DO know that the very nature of these groups is to eliminate those that dont belive as they do, with America being tops on their list...right?

Just checkin

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Todd33

Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo says there's even a training camp in Brazil teaching Middle Easterners how to blend in to the Mexican culture.

LOL, it must be true then.

I am usually on your side (not that it matters to you) but .. did you try to search the net for any of this info?

It is true and even Hamas is there .. there is a lot of areas down there that are not in any govt's control and the money of al-qaeda buys anything they want

I am a firm believer that Mr Bush and the Neocons only made lives for Americans and Life in America MUCH WORSE in the long run by murdering so many Iraqi's

You, sir, are naive. Im not being apologetic by any stretch, but to blame Bush and the Iraq fiasco for Islam's hatered of America is very shortsighted. You DO know 9/11 was planned long before Bush was in office, right? You DO know that al qaeda et-al has a long standing hatred for America and what we represent...right? You DO know that the very nature of these groups is to eliminate those that dont belive as they do, with America being tops on their list...right?

Just checkin

He might be refereing to Bush Sr.

The Arabs got very flustered when we showed up for GWI and stayed around.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Todd33

Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo says there's even a training camp in Brazil teaching Middle Easterners how to blend in to the Mexican culture.

LOL, it must be true then.

I am usually on your side (not that it matters to you) but .. did you try to search the net for any of this info?

It is true and even Hamas is there .. there is a lot of areas down there that are not in any govt's control and the money of al-qaeda buys anything they want

I am a firm believer that Mr Bush and the Neocons only made lives for Americans and Life in America MUCH WORSE in the long run by murdering so many Iraqi's

You, sir, are naive. Im not being apologetic by any stretch, but to blame Bush and the Iraq fiasco for Islam's hatered of America is very shortsighted. You DO know 9/11 was planned long before Bush was in office, right? You DO know that al qaeda et-al has a long standing hatred for America and what we represent...right? You DO know that the very nature of these groups is to eliminate those that dont belive as they do, with America being tops on their list...right?

Just checkin

You do know that Mr Bush is the greatest recruiting tool that al-qaeda could have ever ever asked for right?

I guess you think the Iraq War has not had any impact on the level of hatred they feel for us... not raised the level of hatred at all.. right?

Also.. attacking Iraq really helped to defeat the Ideals of al-qaeda and showed those Iraqis that they better not ever attack us again .. right?


We sure did show them how strong we are in Iraq.. right? Look at that fvcking place? If I was an Iraqi I would find it hard not to hate America.. how about you?

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Todd33

Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo says there's even a training camp in Brazil teaching Middle Easterners how to blend in to the Mexican culture.

LOL, it must be true then.

I am usually on your side (not that it matters to you) but .. did you try to search the net for any of this info?

It is true and even Hamas is there .. there is a lot of areas down there that are not in any govt's control and the money of al-qaeda buys anything they want

I am a firm believer that Mr Bush and the Neocons only made lives for Americans and Life in America MUCH WORSE in the long run by murdering so many Iraqi's

You, sir, are naive. Im not being apologetic by any stretch, but to blame Bush and the Iraq fiasco for Islam's hatered of America is very shortsighted. You DO know 9/11 was planned long before Bush was in office, right? You DO know that al qaeda et-al has a long standing hatred for America and what we represent...right? You DO know that the very nature of these groups is to eliminate those that dont belive as they do, with America being tops on their list...right?

Just checkin

You do know that Mr Bush is the greatest recruiting tool that al-qaeda could have ever ever asked for right?

I guess you think the Iraq War has not had any impact on the level of hatred they feel for us... not raised the level of hatred at all.. right?

Also.. attacking Iraq really helped to defeat the Ideals of al-qaeda and showed those Iraqis that they better not ever attack us again .. right?


We sure did show them how strong we are in Iraq.. right? Look at that fvcking place? If I was an Iraqi I would find it hard not to hate America.. how about you?

I disagree with you 100%, and base my opinion (we're entitled to our own) is based on history. Al-Qaeda's hatered is secondary to their hatred for Israel, which dates back to...well...before our parents were born. In 1949, Harry Truman officially recognized Israel as a state, and was the first president to do so. Following that, still in 1949, the USA was the main author of the Tripartite Agreement, which basically was an embargo on weapons, ammunition, and supplies to any country involved in the Arab-Israeli war. Israel was excluded, of course. This was the beginning of our friendship with Israel, and the beginning of the muslim's hatered for America. It has only grown more each and every year.

The fact is, no matter WHO was in power, 9/11 would have happened. As you probably know this wasnt the first, nor will it be the last, attack on America or its allies. If you look at the history of attacks, they grow larger and larger with each attack. Al-Qaeda has already said their next attack will dwarf 9/11, and statements like this are made after almost every attack.

The truth is, whether you believe it or not, is the war in Iraq is irrelevant to Al-Qaeda (and Hammas, Abu Sayef, etc). Do they use it as propaganda? Well of course they do. We use THEIR attacks on US for propaganda....ever talk to a military recruiter? Thats what they focus on (for now).

Another truth is, what Al-Qaeda et al absolutely love, is the fact that so many Americans are focusing their hatred on their leader, instead of the ones who REALLY pose a danger - them. Wanna talk about sheeple....people like you who dont see this are as blind and short sighted as ever.

 

[yllus]

Reasons aside, you simply cannot seal a border of that size effectively. Not unless you bring in some seriously advanced technology.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Todd33

Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo says there's even a training camp in Brazil teaching Middle Easterners how to blend in to the Mexican culture.

LOL, it must be true then.

I am usually on your side (not that it matters to you) but .. did you try to search the net for any of this info?

It is true and even Hamas is there .. there is a lot of areas down there that are not in any govt's control and the money of al-qaeda buys anything they want

I am a firm believer that Mr Bush and the Neocons only made lives for Americans and Life in America MUCH WORSE in the long run by murdering so many Iraqi's

You, sir, are naive. Im not being apologetic by any stretch, but to blame Bush and the Iraq fiasco for Islam's hatered of America

So now its all of Islam? Yeah you're definitely one to take seriously. :roll:

 

[ECUHITMAN]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

I disagree with you 100%, and base my opinion (we're entitled to our own) is based on history. Al-Qaeda's hatered is secondary to their hatred for Israel, which dates back to...well...before our parents were born. In 1949, Harry Truman officially recognized Israel as a state, and was the first president to do so. Following that, still in 1949, the USA was the main author of the Tripartite Agreement, which basically was an embargo on weapons, ammunition, and supplies to any country involved in the Arab-Israeli war. Israel was excluded, of course. This was the beginning of our friendship with Israel, and the beginning of the muslim's hatered for America. It has only grown more each and every year.

While I agree that their hatred for the 'west' started back when Isreal became a nation. That said the UN admitted Israel on May 11, 1949. This is the reason why they hate the 'west'. I am sure the US is at the top of the list because we are the most powerful, but I disagree this was what started ALL the hatred for the US by the terrorist groups in the ME.

As far as Al-Qaeda goes the GW1 really kicked started its hatred for the US. As it was a widely known fact they didn't like that we started building bases in the ME (Mecca).

The fact is, no matter WHO was in power, 9/11 would have happened. As you probably know this wasnt the first, nor will it be the last, attack on America or its allies. If you look at the history of attacks, they grow larger and larger with each attack. Al-Qaeda has already said their next attack will dwarf 9/11, and statements like this are made after almost every attack.

True

The truth is, whether you believe it or not, is the war in Iraq is irrelevant to Al-Qaeda (and Hammas, Abu Sayef, etc). Do they use it as propaganda? Well of course they do. We use THEIR attacks on US for propaganda....ever talk to a military recruiter? Thats what they focus on (for now).

Yes they use it for recruiting, and the war in Iraq has also taught them another key lesson. We can be defeated. Or at the very least, we are not so powerful that we can do whatever we want. This is a lesson a lot of other nations have also learned about the Iraq war.

Iraq may be irrelevant in the sense of why they hate the US, but the problem is they have gained a lot more support of their cause because of it.

Another truth is, what Al-Qaeda et al absolutely love, is the fact that so many Americans are focusing their hatred on their leader, instead of the ones who REALLY pose a danger - them. Wanna talk about sheeple....people like you who dont see this are as blind and short sighted as ever.

BS. If the Iraq war is irrelevant, I am pretty sure the way American's view our president is also irrelevant. You say we have lost focus because of our hatred of bush, but we are talking about a wall on the Mexican boarder, last time I checked Mexico had nothing to do with 9/11. Does the boarder need to be secured? YES! Should we erect some form of wall? Sure, why not. I mean it is OUR boarder we should be able to do whatever we want. Does illegal immigration pose a security threat to the US (regarding terrorism) YES.
Do people have the Right in the country to be against a wall? YES. Does that mean they are losing focus on the war on terra? NO. The first good argument against a wall is there is no way we are going to build a 1000 mile wall, and even if we do they could just as easily come across from Canada or by boat.

I guess the main thing I have a problem with is the fact that people that support the president act like this is the ONLY thing we should be doing (or at the very least the MOST important thing). In fact this is where BUSH has failed the American people, 9/11 was 5 years ago and he has had control of both the house and senate and has yet to get ANYTHING done.

I say build a wall if you want to. But don't stop there, fix the ports, fix our intelligence (foreign and domestic, NOT relying on listening to phone calls, real police work).... There are a lot of things to fix and as far as I can see BUSH has not accomplished anything. So maybe instead of thinking some freaking wall along the US/Mex boarder will save America think about all the other ways in.

Yes it is a start, but could the resources that will be used to build it going to the correct place?

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: ECUHITMAN

Originally posted by: blackangst1

I disagree with you 100%, and base my opinion (we're entitled to our own) is based on history. Al-Qaeda's hatered is secondary to their hatred for Israel, which dates back to...well...before our parents were born. In 1949, Harry Truman officially recognized Israel as a state, and was the first president to do so. Following that, still in 1949, the USA was the main author of the Tripartite Agreement, which basically was an embargo on weapons, ammunition, and supplies to any country involved in the Arab-Israeli war. Israel was excluded, of course. This was the beginning of our friendship with Israel, and the beginning of the muslim's hatered for America. It has only grown more each and every year.

While I agree that their hatred for the 'west' started back when Isreal became a nation. That said the UN admitted Israel on May 11, 1949. This is the reason why they hate the 'west'. I am sure the US is at the top of the list because we are the most powerful, but I disagree this was what started ALL the hatred for the US by the terrorist groups in the ME.

As far as Al-Qaeda goes the GW1 really kicked started its hatred for the US. As it was a widely known fact they didn't like that we started building bases in the ME (Mecca).

The fact is, no matter WHO was in power, 9/11 would have happened. As you probably know this wasnt the first, nor will it be the last, attack on America or its allies. If you look at the history of attacks, they grow larger and larger with each attack. Al-Qaeda has already said their next attack will dwarf 9/11, and statements like this are made after almost every attack.

True

The truth is, whether you believe it or not, is the war in Iraq is irrelevant to Al-Qaeda (and Hammas, Abu Sayef, etc). Do they use it as propaganda? Well of course they do. We use THEIR attacks on US for propaganda....ever talk to a military recruiter? Thats what they focus on (for now).

Yes they use it for recruiting, and the war in Iraq has also taught them another key lesson. We can be defeated. Or at the very least, we are not so powerful that we can do whatever we want. This is a lesson a lot of other nations have also learned about the Iraq war.

Iraq may be irrelevant in the sense of why they hate the US, but the problem is they have gained a lot more support of their cause because of it.

Another truth is, what Al-Qaeda et al absolutely love, is the fact that so many Americans are focusing their hatred on their leader, instead of the ones who REALLY pose a danger - them. Wanna talk about sheeple....people like you who dont see this are as blind and short sighted as ever.

BS. If the Iraq war is irrelevant, I am pretty sure the way American's view our president is also irrelevant. You say we have lost focus because of our hatred of bush, but we are talking about a wall on the Mexican boarder, last time I checked Mexico had nothing to do with 9/11. Does the boarder need to be secured? YES! Should we erect some form of wall? Sure, why not. I mean it is OUR boarder we should be able to do whatever we want. Does illegal immigration pose a security threat to the US (regarding terrorism) YES.
Do people have the Right in the country to be against a wall? YES. Does that mean they are losing focus on the war on terra? NO. The first good argument against a wall is there is no way we are going to build a 1000 mile wall, and even if we do they could just as easily come across from Canada or by boat.

I guess the main thing I have a problem with is the fact that people that support the president act like this is the ONLY thing we should be doing (or at the very least the MOST important thing). In fact this is where BUSH has failed the American people, 9/11 was 5 years ago and he has had control of both the house and senate and has yet to get ANYTHING done.

I say build a wall if you want to. But don't stop there, fix the ports, fix our intelligence (foreign and domestic, NOT relying on listening to phone calls, real police work).... There are a lot of things to fix and as far as I can see BUSH has not accomplished anything. So maybe instead of thinking some freaking wall along the US/Mex boarder will save America think about all the other ways in.

Yes it is a start, but could the resources that will be used to build it going to the correct place?

That post had too much logic in it, I bet his head exploded.

 

[bsobel]

So now its all of Islam? Yeah you're definitely one to take seriously. :roll:

Not to be flipant, but do you really know history well? Heck, if the Frankish army hadn't turned them back at the Loire in 732, we'd all be muslim

Bill

p.s. Do you remember why the marines and navy where initially created by the US? We've been fighting muslims a long long time.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: ECUHITMAN

Originally posted by: blackangst1

I disagree with you 100%, and base my opinion (we're entitled to our own) is based on history. Al-Qaeda's hatered is secondary to their hatred for Israel, which dates back to...well...before our parents were born. In 1949, Harry Truman officially recognized Israel as a state, and was the first president to do so. Following that, still in 1949, the USA was the main author of the Tripartite Agreement, which basically was an embargo on weapons, ammunition, and supplies to any country involved in the Arab-Israeli war. Israel was excluded, of course. This was the beginning of our friendship with Israel, and the beginning of the muslim's hatered for America. It has only grown more each and every year.

While I agree that their hatred for the 'west' started back when Isreal became a nation. That said the UN admitted Israel on May 11, 1949. This is the reason why they hate the 'west'. I am sure the US is at the top of the list because we are the most powerful, but I disagree this was what started ALL the hatred for the US by the terrorist groups in the ME.

As far as Al-Qaeda goes the GW1 really kicked started its hatred for the US. As it was a widely known fact they didn't like that we started building bases in the ME (Mecca).

The fact is, no matter WHO was in power, 9/11 would have happened. As you probably know this wasnt the first, nor will it be the last, attack on America or its allies. If you look at the history of attacks, they grow larger and larger with each attack. Al-Qaeda has already said their next attack will dwarf 9/11, and statements like this are made after almost every attack.

True

The truth is, whether you believe it or not, is the war in Iraq is irrelevant to Al-Qaeda (and Hammas, Abu Sayef, etc). Do they use it as propaganda? Well of course they do. We use THEIR attacks on US for propaganda....ever talk to a military recruiter? Thats what they focus on (for now).

Yes they use it for recruiting, and the war in Iraq has also taught them another key lesson. We can be defeated. Or at the very least, we are not so powerful that we can do whatever we want. This is a lesson a lot of other nations have also learned about the Iraq war.

Iraq may be irrelevant in the sense of why they hate the US, but the problem is they have gained a lot more support of their cause because of it.

Another truth is, what Al-Qaeda et al absolutely love, is the fact that so many Americans are focusing their hatred on their leader, instead of the ones who REALLY pose a danger - them. Wanna talk about sheeple....people like you who dont see this are as blind and short sighted as ever.

BS. If the Iraq war is irrelevant, I am pretty sure the way American's view our president is also irrelevant. You say we have lost focus because of our hatred of bush, but we are talking about a wall on the Mexican boarder, last time I checked Mexico had nothing to do with 9/11. Does the boarder need to be secured? YES! Should we erect some form of wall? Sure, why not. I mean it is OUR boarder we should be able to do whatever we want. Does illegal immigration pose a security threat to the US (regarding terrorism) YES.
Do people have the Right in the country to be against a wall? YES. Does that mean they are losing focus on the war on terra? NO. The first good argument against a wall is there is no way we are going to build a 1000 mile wall, and even if we do they could just as easily come across from Canada or by boat.

I guess the main thing I have a problem with is the fact that people that support the president act like this is the ONLY thing we should be doing (or at the very least the MOST important thing). In fact this is where BUSH has failed the American people, 9/11 was 5 years ago and he has had control of both the house and senate and has yet to get ANYTHING done.

I say build a wall if you want to. But don't stop there, fix the ports, fix our intelligence (foreign and domestic, NOT relying on listening to phone calls, real police work).... There are a lot of things to fix and as far as I can see BUSH has not accomplished anything. So maybe instead of thinking some freaking wall along the US/Mex boarder will save America think about all the other ways in.

Yes it is a start, but could the resources that will be used to build it going to the correct place?

Well, we can agree to disagree as to whether it was our partnership with Israel in 1948 or admission of Israel to the UN in 1949, as there is really no way to factually prove either one. Nevertheless, it WAS our partnership with Israel that spurred the hatred. That much is clear, as you watch so many of the vids mixing the USA and Israel in their propaganda speeches. Anyhow...

I disagree that Al Qaeda's hatred was somehow kickstarted their outbursts against democracy, and, IMHO, their previous actions speak otherwise. i.e. USS Cole, the first World Trade Center bombing, numorous embassy bombings, etc. In all cases, it was done in the name of Islam, and their judgement of freedom. Although historically they have done the most damage to US targets, they have also targetted other free nations as well. After each attack, they always praise their god, and swear it isnt the last. Each attack has been bigger and better than the last, and 9/11 is no different. Recent tapings from Al-Qaeda prove this. If you havent seen the video Exposed: The Extremist Agenda, it is a must see. Is it propaganda? You bet it is. But it is a taped session that clearly shows hatred for Israel and the west is growing. And it has nothing to do with the war. BTW the link for the vid is http://euphoricreality.com/2006/11/16/video-exposed-the-extremist-agenda/

You may not like or agree with Glenn Beck, who originally aired the video, but the fact is it speaks for itself. He isnt the one who made it. Their hatred runs deep and passionate, no matter who is in office.

I agree with you about Mexico not having anything to do with 9/11, and I really dont think anyone has ever suggested it. What is being voiced is the concern for what the LACK of border control will lead to. It is an EASY entrance to our country. Some say if we block Mexico we have to block our Canadian border as well. Well, as someone who has travelled to several countries overseas, this is just false. It is amazingly easy to fly into Sounth America. Of the 3 times I have gone, my passport was barely even looked at. Canada is a different story. They scrutinize foreign incoming flights >almost< as much as we do. Mexico and S America does not. THAT is the concern.

As far as Bush not doing anything...well...I think SOME credit is due. No, we dont have Bin Laden; however, we HAVE either killed or captured 60-80% of Al-Qaeda's "managers" depending on the source you read. That is quite an accoplishment.

 

[jrenz]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
This is a story several months old, and some reports are that they were nuclear materials that were smuggled across.

Didn't ABC News sneak Nuclear Materials across 2 years ago?

No

Here is one that was not them
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1774306

I am trying to find theirs now
HERE YA GO FIFTEEN POUNDS OF DEPLEED URANIUM VOILA
http://www.aim.org/aim_column/A160_0_3_0_C/
And here
http://www.lisarein.com/videos/tvclips/dailysept2003/9-18-03-daily-uranium.mov

Just FYI... depleted uranium is called depleted uranium because it is insignificantly radioactive compared to naturally occuring uranium, much less enriched (weapons grade) uranium. You could do about as much with 15 pounds of depleted uranium in a bomb as you could do with 15 pounds of lead.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Genx87
If this story is true, gee you dont say!

Remember we are all racists if we want to close off our borders. Security threat? Clearly overblown!

Isnt that what most of this board was crying all summer? Amazing eh?

I live in Phoenix, and a local NBC station did one (of many) specials on illegal entry via Mexico a couple months back. They LITERALLY walked across the border with a camera man riding an elephant behind a 5 piece mariachi band playing full blast....uninterrupted, undisturbed.

You people who claim we are being racist and isolationist had better WAKE THE FVCK UP. Something is coming. Apperantly 9/11 didnt do it for you. Maybe the next one will.

The next attack, if it's a nuclear explosion in a major city, will only wake them up in they happen to be standing right on top of it.

Otherwise they will be busy issuing terms of surrender for us while we decide how much longer we're going to put up with these dissidents preventing us from protecting this country. When people right here are rooting for the likes of Chavez and his alliance with Iran/North Korea, the non-aligned as they call themselves, then we have a serious issue of having already fallen from within.

The border will not be secured before millions die, after which point it will no longer matter.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: bsobel

So now its all of Islam? Yeah you're definitely one to take seriously. :roll:

Not to be flipant, but do you really know history well? Heck, if the Frankish army hadn't turned them back at the Loire in 732, we'd all be muslim

Bill

p.s. Do you remember why the marines and navy where initially created by the US? We've been fighting muslims a long long time.

Uh yeah except the Crusades ended a long time ago buddy. The US isn't a christian whacko state last time I checked (though it's gotten close the last few years) nor are the 1+ billion Muslims across the world declaring war on Christianity. You bible thumpers are in serious need of a reality check.

 

[bsobel]

Uh yeah except the Crusades ended a long time ago buddy. The US isn't a christian whacko state last time I checked (though it's gotten close the last few years) nor are the 1+ billion Muslims across the world declaring war on Christianity. You bible thumpers are in serious need of a reality check.

Please don't put me in the bible thumper category, I'm not on that team And the US isn't a christian nation in everything but name?

 

[International Machine Consortium]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Now that Democrats have Congress

The terrorists wont go after us anymore.

Europe will be our friend again.

All will be right and good in the world.

It'll take generations to undo the damage the Republicans have done to our security. This isn't something the Dems can clean up overnight. Nice troll though, troll.

 

[International Machine Consortium]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
we need that border completely locked and blocked, and we need it done yesterday.

then again, another terrorist attack may re-awaken the idiots amongst us who have forgotten all about the threats we face, or those who have chosen to dismiss those threats as unimportant.

But Bush won't let us! He keeps giving bullshit excuses to leave it open so that his fatcat corporate buddies can continue to get cheap labor! You helped create the problem, Bush lover! Enjoy!

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium

Originally posted by: palehorse74
we need that border completely locked and blocked, and we need it done yesterday.

then again, another terrorist attack may re-awaken the idiots amongst us who have forgotten all about the threats we face, or those who have chosen to dismiss those threats as unimportant.

But Bush won't let us! He keeps giving bullshit excuses to leave it open so that his fatcat corporate buddies can continue to get cheap labor! You helped create the problem, Bush lover! Enjoy!

that problem existed long before Bush came into play.
It is only the fact that he forced the issue into public view

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Genx87
If this story is true, gee you dont say!

Remember we are all racists if we want to close off our borders. Security threat? Clearly overblown!

Isnt that what most of this board was crying all summer? Amazing eh?

I live in Phoenix, and a local NBC station did one (of many) specials on illegal entry via Mexico a couple months back. They LITERALLY walked across the border with a camera man riding an elephant behind a 5 piece mariachi band playing full blast....uninterrupted, undisturbed.

You people who claim we are being racist and isolationist had better WAKE THE FVCK UP. Something is coming. Apperantly 9/11 didnt do it for you. Maybe the next one will.

The next attack, if it's a nuclear explosion in a major city, will only wake them up in they happen to be standing right on top of it.

Otherwise they will be busy issuing terms of surrender for us while we decide how much longer we're going to put up with these dissidents preventing us from protecting this country. When people right here are rooting for the likes of Chavez and his alliance with Iran/North Korea, the non-aligned as they call themselves, then we have a serious issue of having already fallen from within.

The border will not be secured before millions die, after which point it will no longer matter.

I agree 100%; however, opinions like this will label you as a fear monger and conspiracy thoerist *shrug* so be it.

 

[jrenz]

Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Now that Democrats have Congress

The terrorists wont go after us anymore.

Europe will be our friend again.

All will be right and good in the world.

It'll take generations to undo the damage the Republicans have done to our security. This isn't something the Dems can clean up overnight. Nice troll though, troll.

You mean like when the Republicans decimated our intelligence services and military in the 1990s? Oh...wait..

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium

Originally posted by: palehorse74
we need that border completely locked and blocked, and we need it done yesterday.

then again, another terrorist attack may re-awaken the idiots amongst us who have forgotten all about the threats we face, or those who have chosen to dismiss those threats as unimportant.

But Bush won't let us! He keeps giving bullshit excuses to leave it open so that his fatcat corporate buddies can continue to get cheap labor! You helped create the problem, Bush lover! Enjoy!

that problem existed long before Bush came into play.
It is only the fact that he forced the issue into public view

Yeah, deficit spening was a problem before Bush too and like the number of illegal immigrants in this country, it has also got much worse due to his policies/leadership.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: International Machine Consortium

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Now that Democrats have Congress

The terrorists wont go after us anymore.

Europe will be our friend again.

All will be right and good in the world.

It'll take generations to undo the damage the Republicans have done to our security. This isn't something the Dems can clean up overnight. Nice troll though, troll.

If I'm not mistaken, John Kerry voted for the war along with many other "star" democrats.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: palehorse74


then again, another terrorist attack may re-awaken the idiots amongst us

Why do we need a terrorist attack to wake you up?

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Genx87
If this story is true, gee you dont say!

Remember we are all racists if we want to close off our borders. Security threat? Clearly overblown!

Isnt that what most of this board was crying all summer? Amazing eh?

I live in Phoenix, and a local NBC station did one (of many) specials on illegal entry via Mexico a couple months back. They LITERALLY walked across the border with a camera man riding an elephant behind a 5 piece mariachi band playing full blast....uninterrupted, undisturbed.

You people who claim we are being racist and isolationist had better WAKE THE FVCK UP. Something is coming. Apperantly 9/11 didnt do it for you. Maybe the next one will.

The next attack, if it's a nuclear explosion in a major city, will only wake them up in they happen to be standing right on top of it.

Otherwise they will be busy issuing terms of surrender for us while we decide how much longer we're going to put up with these dissidents preventing us from protecting this country. When people right here are rooting for the likes of Chavez and his alliance with Iran/North Korea, the non-aligned as they call themselves, then we have a serious issue of having already fallen from within.

The border will not be secured before millions die, after which point it will no longer matter.

I agree 100%; however, opinions like this will label you as a fear monger and conspiracy thoerist *shrug* so be it.

So you guys are all for impeaching Bush, right, since in the five years since 9/11, in spite of spending hundreds of billions of dollars (and 3,000+ American lives), Bush still hasn't done a damn thing to materially improve America's "homeland" security? He has totally abdicated his responsibility to protect America. In fact, as his own experts acknowledge, he's made us less safe and increased the risk of terrorism. You have vocally denounced Bush's distraction in Iraq and his failure to secure our ports and borders, right? Hello?

Oh wait, I remember now. You guys don't really care about America. You care about partisanship and about fear-mongering to keep the sheeple bleating the BushCo mantra that Democrats are weak on terrorism ... even though the objective evidence proves exactly the opposite. Carry on. Fear and hate are all you have left.

 

[ebaycj]

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