Al Qaeda Confirms Bin Laden’s Death

[Hayabusa Rider]

But just about every nation on earth will learn the lesson of Pakistan, when Uncle Sam again comes offering all that lovely military aid toys and sweet nothing promises, just say NO THANK YOU SAM.

And remember we paid you to hide OBL. No wait...

 

[cganesh75]

The Pakistanis almost hate OBL as much as the hate the USA. It's hard to figure out who has killed more innocent Pakistanis.

I did not know that OBL killed terrorists too. hmmmm

 

[Lemon law]

And remember we paid you to hide OBL. No wait...

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------We have little to brag about either, just look how long the USA took to find Ted Kadjinski. As it was their own family turned him in, if not for that ole Teddy would be still likely be on the loose.

Then there is that other fact that you ignore, without any USA Help, the Paks have arrested more Al-Quida agents than the rest of the world combined.

And face the other fact, Al-Quida is serious bad news, because they bring down terrorism and violence to every country they seek shelter in. Al-Quida as a stateless group of terrorists uses every opportunity to bring misery to every country possible. The big loser in Iraq were the very Sunni Muslims that offered Al-Quida the time of day, the same can be said of the Taliban who had no idea OBL was plotting 911. And as I read the tea leaves from intel captured from the raid, it now looks like even Al-Quida itself divorced themselves from the OBL faction.

 

[Red Dawn]

The Pakistanis almost hate OBL as much as the hate the USA. It's hard to figure out who has killed more innocent Pakistanis.

The Pakistanis have killed the most Pakistani's. It's as if killing and buggering each other is a national past time.

 

[RabidMongoose]

The Pakistanis almost hate OBL as much as the hate the USA. It's hard to figure out who has killed more innocent Pakistanis.

I can't blame Pakistanis for hating the US, mainly because Pakistan is a failed state, it is poor, so poor that it has basically been bought by the US. Hell, Americans can go to Pakistan, murder a couple of Pakistanis, and then just buy themselves out of it.

Pakistan is for sale. It's actually pretty cheap. That's what happens when you live in a failed country, especially one with radical fundamentalists all over the place.

 

[Lemon law]

I can't blame Pakistanis for hating the US, mainly because Pakistan is a failed state, it is poor, so poor that it has basically been bought by the US. Hell, Americans can go to Pakistan, murder a couple of Pakistanis, and then just buy themselves out of it.

Pakistan is for sale. It's actually pretty cheap. That's what happens when you live in a failed country, especially one with radical fundamentalists all over the place.

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Don't be a fool Rabid Mongoose, because you only describe the thinly populated Tribal areas of Pakistan, that Pakistan does not basically care much for and does not bother to police.
The rest of Pakistan's 165 million people are a thriving Western Country with Western Modern values.

But when we ask why Al-Quida had some many agents in Pakistan look no further than Afghanistan. Al-Quida had some cred from Russian Afghani war, but in terms of finding the means of Communications to the global Al-Quida network, those communications means could not be found in Afghanistan or the tribal areas of Pakistan. So just like OBL they found they could hide in plain sight in large Pakistani cities. As long as they did not stir up Pakistani local troubles, its always hard to find such sleeper agents.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

So just like OBL they found they could hide in plain sight in large Pakistani cities.

Just how did he manage to do that? He did it with the pro Al Qaeda ISI's help. Not that they are ideologically alike, but Bin Laden and Al Qaeda have their uses. The tribal areas might as well be on the moon.

 

[RabidMongoose]

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Don't be a fool Rabid Mongoose, because you only describe the thinly populated Tribal areas of Pakistan, that Pakistan does not basically care much for and does not bother to police.
The rest of Pakistan's 165 million people are a thriving Western Country with Western Modern values.

But when we ask why Al-Quida had some many agents in Pakistan look no further than Afghanistan. Al-Quida had some cred from Russian Afghani war, but in terms of finding the means of Communications to the global Al-Quida network, those communications means could not be found in Afghanistan or the tribal areas of Pakistan. So just like OBL they found they could hide in plain sight in large Pakistani cities. As long as they did not stir up Pakistani local troubles, its always hard to find such sleeper agents.

No, I'm just generally talking about the entire country. It's a failed state, one that was bought for only a few billion dollars per year. The Pakistani government basically sold the country, effectively making a Pakistani life worth very little.

Moreover, it's not a thriving Western Country with Western Modern values. I'm not sure why you're even talking about 'Western' values when that isn't the only type of 'modern' value. But, regardless, it's a society of fundamentalism and fundamentalism of any kind will not allow a country to advance.

 

[zinfamous]

Do me a favor and rent a truck, paint "Death to America on it", and drive it along the Afghan border for a few days.


Funny how there was no "Death to the terrorist harboring corrupt ISI" in your tirade.

I would buy him a plane ticket and rent a van (heavily insured, of course), so that he can drive that van through Alabama.

 

[RabidMongoose]

You can go and fuck all your money. We need to start denouncing American aid in exchange for our blood, security and pride. Death to America. Death to Zardari. Death to AlQaeeda. Death to the Taliban.

But the US has already bought your country through the rest of this year. Maybe in 2012 Pakistan can finally begin developing on its own and not be a failed state, and as such a Pakistani life can apparently be more valued by the Pakistani government.

 

[Lemon law]

I find it somewhat unbelievable that most of this forum are unable to walk a single inch in Pakistani shoes.

Normally a nation of 165 million are somewhat immune from military takeover, unlike other football countries like say Finland , Estonia, who are regularly conquered by larger neighbors. But when Pakistan is only 16% of the size of India, they are in the same midget class as Estonia. So we can somewhat understand the foreign relations concerns of Pakistan are 99% concerned with only India. Leaving little Pakistani concerns or sympathy with the problems of the USA.

Worse yet the Pakistani Indian Borders were drawn in some British map room a long time ago, it may suit the convince of the Brits, but it does zero to now describe where the now ethnic divide between the Muslims and the Hindu's are when at the time the British drew a shortsighted border. So now the Indians technically own Kashmir even if its population is mostly Muslim. Making Kashmir a prime bone of contention today as it always been a terrorist magnet since the time of dirt.

But there is little that can be done by either India or Pakistan so to a great extent, Pakistani concerns have shifted to securing its Western border with Afghanistan, And by Pakistan allying to the Taliban had become a wet dream come true, many in the ISI were wary of letting the USA, after 911, of renewed US destabilizing Afghanistan. But the USA promised to fix everything up better than before in jig time, and now US and Nato incompetence have proved the ISI was right.

And the Net effect has been to leave the Pakistani economy and its foreign policy in far worse shape than it was before.

But somehow most of us on this forum seemed to think the USA and Nato bought all of Pakisitan for $24.00 in glass beads.

 

[cubby1223]

MEGA facepalm for all you idiots who believe that Osama never was killed....
More face palm for all you idiots who claim it was hoax....
Even more faceplam for you who are just plain ole idiots.

Osama is dead!!! Deal with it!!!


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/07/world/asia/07qaeda.html?src=mv&ref=world

Al Qaeda released a statement on militant Web sites Friday confirming the death of Osama bin Laden, according to the SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors jihadi Web sites. The lengthy statement, dated May 3 and signed by Al Qaeda’s General Command, warned of new attacks and called on the Pakistani people to rebel against their government to protest its relations with the United States.

NY Times says Al Qaeda confirmed the death. If I can't trust the U.S. President, why should I trust the liberal progressive commie NY Times? And likely the CIA hacked the sites posing as Al Qaeda spreading the messages of his death, to cover their own tracks.

I DEMAND more proof!


...see? There is no pleasing some people. The crazies will always be crazy, there will never be enough rock-solid proof of anything for some.

 

[cubby1223]

You can go and fuck all your money.

Yea, we'll see if you have the same attitude when the money train stops.

 

[Fern]

I'd like to see a poll on how many people believe OBL is dead (or not).

All I could find is one that says 66% of Pakistanis don't believe it was him killed in the compound.

Fern

 

[Brigandier]

This confirms it, OBL is alive and well. He's probably hidden somewhere in the whitehouse whispering Marxist honey into Obama's ear.

 

[cubby1223]

I can at least understand why TGB makes the statement, accepting Money to lease a Pakistani road into Afghanistan, has proved to be an unmitigated disaster for the Pakistani people. And the deal was that no US or Nato military activity was to be permitted in Pakistan itself.

But mission creep and Nato incompetence is not the fault of Pakistan.

But just about every nation on earth will learn the lesson of Pakistan, when Uncle Sam again comes offering all that lovely military aid toys and sweet nothing promises, just say NO THANK YOU SAM.

Seriously? You love Palastine, love Hamas, love Iran, hate Israel, hate America.

And not once blaming Pakistan for not knowing Osama's whereabouts.

Pakistan should be a better and safer place with Osama dead. And if it's not, then it is the people's fault, not America's fault. If they are incapable of living at peace with each other, that is their failing.