Al Gore wins a million dollars for inventing the internet

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: dartworth
PSA: Gore never claimed the he "invented" the internet

That is all.

I also took the initiative in creating the internet. I did this by not opposing it.
I also took the initiative in inventing the PC. I did this by not opposing it.


Congrats to that guy!
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: dartworth
PSA: Gore never claimed the he "invented" the internet

That is all.
I also took the initiative in creating the internet. I did this by not opposing it.
I also took the initiative in inventing the PC. I did this by not opposing it.


Congrats to that guy!
God this is old. That's not what he said. He said:

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system."

His statement was stupid in a classic Gore way, but not far from the truth. Gore sponsored a bill in 1986 that provided major funding to NSFnet to create a TCP/IP backbone.
Gore did so much sponsoring or politicking for federal funding to these various computing bills, that he is credited with having coined the term "information superhighway".
His final acheivement in the Senate was sponsoring and getting passed the High Performance Computing Act of 1991, which proponents said that "this network eventually will evolve into a universally available National Public Telecomputing Network that may be the successor to the telephone system, marrying the entertainment, communications and computer industries." It did.
 

dartworth

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From snopes.com

No,
Al Gore did not claim he "invented" the Internet, nor did he say anything that could reasonably be interpreted that way. The derisive "Al Gore said he 'invented' the Internet" put-downs are misleading distortions of something he said (taken out of context) during an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN's "Late Edition" program on 9 March 1999. When asked to describe what distinguished him from his challenger for the Democratic presidential nomination, Senator Bill Bradley of New Jersey, Gore replied (in part):


During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.


Clearly, although Gore's phrasing was clumsy (and self-serving), he was not claiming that he "invented" the Internet (in the sense of having designed or implemented it), but that he was responsible for helping to create the environment (in an economic and legislative sense) that fostered the development of the Internet. Al Gore might not know nearly as much about the Internet and other technologies as his image would have us believe, and he certainly has been guilty of stretching (if not outright breaking) the truth before, but to believe that Gore seriously thought he could take credit for the "invention" of the Internet ? in the sense offered by the media ? is just silly. (To those who say the words "create" and "invent" mean the same thing: If they mean the same thing, then why have the media overwhelmingly and consistently cited Gore as having claimed he "invented" the Internet when he never used that word? The answer is that the words don't mean the same thing, but by substituting one word for the other, commentators can make Gore's claim sound [more] ridiculous.)

However, validating even the lesser claim Gore intended to make is problematic. Any statement about the "creation" or "beginning" of the Internet is difficult to evaluate, because the Internet is not a homogenous entity (it's a collection of computers, networks, protocols, standards, and application programs), nor did it all spring into being at once (the components that comprise the Internet were developed in various places at different times and are continuously being modified, improved, and expanded). Despite a spirited defense of Gore's claim by Vint Cerf (often referred to as the "father of the Internet") in which he stated "that as a Senator and now as Vice President, Gore has made it a point to be as well-informed as possible on technology and issues that surround it," many of the components of today's Internet came into being well before Gore's first term in Congress began in 1977, and it's hard to find any specific action of Gore's (such as his sponsoring a Congressional bill or championing a particular piece of legislation) that one could claim helped bring the Internet into being, much less validate Gore's statement of having taken the "initiative in creating the Internet."

It's true that Gore was popularizing the term "information superhighway" in the early 1990s (when few people outside academia or the computer/defense industries had heard of the Internet) and has introduced a few bills dealing with education and the Internet, but even though Congressman, Senator, and Vice-President Gore may always have been interested in and well-informed about information technology issues, that's a far cry from having taken an active, vital leadership role in bringing about those technologies. Even if Al Gore had never entered the political arena, we'd probably still be reading web pages via the Internet today.
 

Vic

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Snopes is not entirely accurate there. Gore did most of his work towards his "information superhighway" in the mid-to-late 80s and into the early 90s (he left the Senate to become VP in 92). It was his little bread-and-butter agenda during his stint (what he wanted to become famous for), and he coined the term "information superhighway" because his father is credited with leading the legislation that created the interstate highway system while in the Senate in the 50s.

Had Gore had a bit more modesty and not foolishly blown his own horn (and stretched hus credit too far), the world today might look on him a little different. Or might not...
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Did FDR take initiative in creating the Nuclear Bomb?
Well... the invention of the bomb was made possible by FDR's work, much of which was (perhaps lucky) foresight. His "New Deal" electrical projects of the BPA and the TVA provided the necessary electricity (which is why the major nuclear sites are at Hanford and Oakridge), and he did sign the funding for the Manhattan Project which did cost a (then staggering) $2 billion. <edit>I think it's worth noting that without FDR's "New Deal" projects, the US would have lacked much of the necessary infratructure that helped it win WWII</edit>.
I believe however that Einstein deserves the credit for creating the bomb though.

Before anyone thinks I'm giving Gore too much credit though, I will be fair by saying that, had Gore not been a willing and eager participtant, those education and technology lobbies that needed the government funding and legislation in order to create the internet would have simply found another congressperson to rally their cause.
 

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: dartworth
PSA: Gore never claimed the he "invented" the internet

That is all.
I also took the initiative in creating the internet. I did this by not opposing it.
I also took the initiative in inventing the PC. I did this by not opposing it.


Congrats to that guy!
God this is old. That's not what he said. He said:

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system."

His statement was stupid in a classic Gore way, but not far from the truth. Gore sponsored a bill in 1986 that provided major funding to NSFnet to create a TCP/IP backbone.
Gore did so much sponsoring or politicking for federal funding to these various computing bills, that he is credited with having coined the term "information superhighway".
His final acheivement in the Senate was sponsoring and getting passed the High Performance Computing Act of 1991, which proponents said that "this network eventually will evolve into a universally available National Public Telecomputing Network that may be the successor to the telephone system, marrying the entertainment, communications and computer industries." It did.

First issue is bolded, the second line is a typo. I meant to say creating.
 

jadinolf

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I'm sure that the U.S. Supreme Court had something to do with Al not getting the award.
They HATE him. :)