AL could make handguns legal for kids

[bradly1101]

What's next? Guns in the womb? You know Lapierre is working on it.

http://www.al.com/news/tuscaloosa/index.ssf/2015/03/handguns_for_minors_alabama_bi.html

People under 18 could soon be legally able to have handguns in Alabama if bills in the state House and Senate are approved.
Both branches of the state legislature are considering a bill that, if passed, will allow minors with their parents' permission to posses pistols.
The bill, HB 328 in the House and SB 262 in the Senate, would also eliminate certain requirements for the registration of the sale of pistols by federally licensed dealers, local law enforcement and the Secretary of State.
Currently, the Code of Alabama specifies that "no person shall deliver a pistol to any person under the age of 18."

 

[Blanky]

Minors in AL can already own rifles I assume. Realistically I don't see what difference this is going to make to anything. The kind of household in which a parent says no to the kid because he's not 18 and that is the only reason is likely the kind of house the kid can get a gun if he wants to be a jackass anyway. Parent can always buy it and just tell the kid its his anyway.

This won't allow 16 year olds to walk around with pistols...

 

[HTFOff]

404 - Shadowy legalese allowing kids to buy glocks not found. OP is a jerknozzle, and possibly a terrorist.

 

[bradly1101]

You know the NRA and gun manufacturers are going to lobby hard for this, so I'm sure it will pass. If the idea takes off it's a whole new market for them. They'll need to start making them in smaller sizes though. Here in SoCal I already hear enough gunfire that I want to don a bulletproof vest before I go out. No more please

 

[bradly1101]

404 - Shadowy legalese allowing kids to buy glocks not found. OP is a jerknozzle, and possibly a terrorist.

[from bill] to allow a person under the age of 18 to receive or possess a pistol under certain conditions; and to eliminate certain record-keeping and administrative requirements.

I didn't say Glock (but how do they differ?), I said handgun.

 

[brycejones]

This will resolve any issues with bullying in schools

 

[bradly1101]

This will resolve any issues with bullying in schools

Indeed, as long as a janitor or teacher is within 'sponsor range.'

 

[sandorski]

Doubling down on stupid.

 

[ivwshane]

Not only should this be legal, it should be required! All kids should be required to have a gun.

The more dumb asses we have killing each other and their offspring the better.


I'm half joking of course.

 

[bradly1101]

Not only should this be legal, it should be required! All kids should be required to have a gun.

The more dumb asses we have killing each other and their offspring the better.


I'm half joking of course.

Good plan, just handout Kevlar jackets to all the 'good' people as chosen by Her Highness Kim Kardashian.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

LMAO!!! When I was in high school in the early to mid 70's it was not uncommon to see guns in cars during deer hunting season. This includes guns that were in plain view in gun racks in pickup trucks. This was common throughout the region then yet no school or mass shootings occurred. Why is this? Why has this changed over the years?

 

[Orignal Earl]

LMAO!!! When I was in high school in the early to mid 70's it was not uncommon to see guns in cars during deer hunting season. This includes guns that were in plain view in gun racks in pickup trucks. This was common throughout the region then yet no school or mass shootings occurred. Why is this? Why has this changed over the years?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

 

[Londo_Jowo]

So with thousands of students with high powered rifles and shotguns in their cars why weren't there hundreds of school shootings occurring during that time frame instead of one high and one college? None in the region where I live.

 

[Orignal Earl]

So with thousands of students with high powered rifles and shotguns in their cars why weren't there hundreds of school shootings occurring during that time frame instead of one high and one college? None in the region where I live.

My guess would be that they wanted to shoot squirrels and not people

 

[Fayd]

You know the NRA and gun manufacturers are going to lobby hard for this, so I'm sure it will pass. If the idea takes off it's a whole new market for them. They'll need to start making them in smaller sizes though. Here in SoCal I already hear enough gunfire that I want to don a bulletproof vest before I go out. No more please

No, it's not. as already stated, parents will buy guns for their kids and tell the kids the guns are theirs. This just allows the purchase to be handled in the kid's name, rather than the adults.

 

[Blanky]

So with thousands of students with high powered rifles and shotguns in their cars why weren't there hundreds of school shootings occurring during that time frame instead of one high and one college? None in the region where I live.

Many of these shootings are copy-cat, not specifically in the event but the nature of why it's done. Any nobody now can become a national sensation by shooting up people. They know that the media will go on about it for a long time, so in a word the answer is fame. Course I'm guessing, I haven't really researched it much and I'm sure if I googled it somebody has gone in depth following the stats and figuring out why the mass shootings have increased (though not as much as the media tends to portray).

 

[glenn1]

Doesn't allow for concealed carry or anything but the expected use cases for a minor: hunting, trapping, target shooting, competitive competition, receiving instruction from a trainer. I don't see any huge problems with this; the kind of kid who is training to shoot for the Olympics doesn't need the same laws as a kid who would belong to a gang or sell drugs.

https://legiscan.com/AL/text/HB328/id/1176953

 

[MovingTarget]

Minors in AL can already own rifles I assume. Realistically I don't see what difference this is going to make to anything. The kind of household in which a parent says no to the kid because he's not 18 and that is the only reason is likely the kind of house the kid can get a gun if he wants to be a jackass anyway. Parent can always buy it and just tell the kid its his anyway.

This won't allow 16 year olds to walk around with pistols...

Pretty much this. I had a rifle and shot competitively when I was in high school. Many of my friends had their own rifles, shotguns, etc. that they went and hunted with on the weekends. This won't change anything. I'm honestly confused as to why our legislature chose to bring the issue up anyway, especially considering that they are about to go into special session as they have yet to come up with a budget that addresses the ~$2-3M shortfall in revenue, despite having cut everything else to the bone. I guess it is "red meat" meant to distract from the dysfunction emanating from Montgomery.

 

[Blanky]

I'm honestly confused as to why our legislature chose to bring the issue up anyway, especially considering that they are about to go into special session as they have yet to come up with a budget that addresses the ~$2-3M shortfall in revenue, despite having cut everything else to the bone. I guess it is "red meat" meant to distract from the dysfunction emanating from Montgomery.

Could be 🙂 I know a couple of kids in alabama who each own a .22, or whether they "own" them or not, their dad refers to to them as their guns. They were about 10 when they got them. Dad also has an AR and at least one pistol, so this law isn't going to change anything that I can see.

 

[Darwin333]

Shrug, my 6 year old has a .22 rifle and my 13 has a .22 (her 2nd), a .410 and I technically own a pretty pink .380 that I "let her use" at the range. My youngest is improving but my oldest can shoot the nuts off a mosquito with her .22 rifle. When she is old enough I'll "give" it to her. I don't see how this law would effect my life one way or the other.

Both of my children are safer with firearms than at least 3/4 of the people on this forum and equal to the rest. Teaching your kids about guns, especially if you own any, is the absolute best way to protect them from doing harm should they come across one, be it yours or not.

 

[Zodiark1593]

Shrug, my 6 year old has a .22 rifle and my 13 has a .22 (her 2nd), a .410 and I technically own a pretty pink .380 that I "let her use" at the range. My youngest is improving but my oldest can shoot the nuts off a mosquito with her .22 rifle. When she is old enough I'll "give" it to her. I don't see how this law would effect my life one way or the other.

Both of my children are safer with firearms than at least 3/4 of the people on this forum and equal to the rest. Teaching your kids about guns, especially if you own any, is the absolute best way to protect them from doing harm should they come across one, be it yours or not.

Agreed, as firearms are a right in this country, not educating children about them, pafticularly safety aspects, is doing children a great disservice. I think firearms safety courses should be made mandatory in public schools.

 

[Fenixgoon]

i'm not necessarily against this, but i think allowing for rifles or shotguns is much better than pistols

 

[Sunburn74]

Agreed, as firearms are a right in this country, not educating children about them, pafticularly safety aspects, is doing children a great disservice. I think firearms safety courses should be made mandatory in public schools.

Are firearm's safety courses mandatory for adults?

 

[glenn1]

Are firearm's safety courses mandatory for adults?

In some states if you want to purchase a firearm, yes. Universally for all adults, no. Over the last 50 years or so we no longer can assume very household has knowledge of basic firearms safety. Between the hugely reduced need to own firearms for protection from predatory animals and movement away from the days of universal male military service many people have never seen a firearm in real life. Which means you have two almost irreconcilable camps where you have one side has an irrational fear of firearms due to lack of exposure and would expect people in Alaska to ward off bears with a spork, and on the other a bunch of NRA yahoos and southern redneck hunters who don't understand why cities would want to limit sales of crappy .25 pistols to gang members.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Are firearm's safety courses mandatory for adults?

None of the states I've lived in have required any safety training to own a firearm.

When it comes to getting a concealed handgun license (CHL), now open carry handgun in Texas training and proficiency testing is mandatory. When I lived in Virginia they accepted my military handgun training to get my concealed handgun permit (CHP).

Like Darwin333 I have provided gun safety training to my children and they understand the correct way to handle firearms. I taught them the same as I was taught by my father. My eldest daughter earned both rifle and pistol expert marksmanship badges during her tour in the US Army.