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Airsoft Guns

HaxorNubcake

Golden Member
UTG ~$100

Airsoft Elite ~$270

I'm getting into airsoft (have been playing with cheap guns for quite some time) and I figured it's about time to upgrade. I like mp5's and I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with them. The first link is cheaper, but also of poorer quality. Recommendations?
 
Tokyo Marui. :thumbsup:

However, I don't like TM MP5s..had a metal Classic Army for a while, and I did like that one.

Edit: Ahahahahaha.....Mike! How's she treating you? 😀
 
Originally posted by: HaxorNubcake
Originally posted by: Mike
I have the classic army full metal MP5 SD5 and love it.

I know its but a google search away, but how much did you pay for it

I bought a whole package for $400 iirc, the gun itself can be had for around $270-$300 I believe.
 
Originally posted by: HaxorNubcake
UTG ~$100

Airsoft Elite ~$270

I'm getting into airsoft (have been playing with cheap guns for quite some time) and I figured it's about time to upgrade. I like mp5's and I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with them. The first link is cheaper, but also of poorer quality. Recommendations?
Damn, I have zero experience but I really like the second (expensive) one.

It just seems cooler? Higher muzzle velocity, doesn't seem to have battery issues, and looks better.
 
Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: HaxorNubcake
Originally posted by: Mike
I have the classic army full metal MP5 SD5 and love it.

I know its but a google search away, but how much did you pay for it

I bought a whole package for $400 iirc, the gun itself can be had for around $270-$300 I believe.

Nice gun, isn't it. 😉
 
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: HaxorNubcake
Originally posted by: Mike
I have the classic army full metal MP5 SD5 and love it.

I know its but a google search away, but how much did you pay for it

I bought a whole package for $400 iirc, the gun itself can be had for around $270-$300 I believe.

Nice gun, isn't it. 😉

That it is. 😀
 
Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: HaxorNubcake
Originally posted by: Mike
I have the classic army full metal MP5 SD5 and love it.

I know its but a google search away, but how much did you pay for it

I bought a whole package for $400 iirc, the gun itself can be had for around $270-$300 I believe.

Nice gun, isn't it. 😉

That it is. 😀

so would you suggest the classic army one over either of the two? the Airsoft Elite one seems to be of pretty good quality with pretty fast muzzle velocity
 
Originally posted by: HaxorNubcake
Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: HaxorNubcake
Originally posted by: Mike
I have the classic army full metal MP5 SD5 and love it.

I know its but a google search away, but how much did you pay for it

I bought a whole package for $400 iirc, the gun itself can be had for around $270-$300 I believe.

Nice gun, isn't it. 😉

That it is. 😀

so would you suggest the classic army one over either of the two? the Airsoft Elite one seems to be of pretty good quality with pretty fast muzzle velocity

I haven't owned an Airsoft Elite, so I can't speak from personal experience. I did like my Classic Army, and it apparently hasn't let Mike down yet either. I also like my Tokyo Marui guns...again, never owned an AE so I can't really offer a valid opinion. You may want to check www.airsoftplayers.com and see if you can find some reviews.
 
Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
I've really never understood why you guys pay so much for something that shoots little plastic BBs. Paintball all the way

And how much do you pay for paintballs? What about Co2? 😉

Not to mention your guns (oh, excuse me.."markers") look like crap. 😛
 
i like the cheaper one and actually you just made me save up some more. Big deal put an alarm for 4 hours and then unplug the battery really not a problem. and very good fps for price now, are the gears in there all metal or part plastic.
 
OK, I have to do this, as it's something I do to all airsoft beginners (and even some semi-experienced players) when they talk about buying AEGs and GBBs: DO NOT BUY THE KNOCKOFF BRANDS. I may sound like a fanboy, but Tokyo Marui is where it's at. The reason they're the most popular is because they're built the best and are the most reliable. I've owned many different brands, types, models, etc. of guns from all over Asia and have yet to find anything as solidly built and reliable as my Marui primaries. There is simply no contest.

I bought a Classic Army after hearing good things about them (The M4A1, too, not the early-version MP5 series) and the goddamn thing stopped working after about 3 mags. It was also incredibly less solid than my Marui, which, IIRC (even though it's PLASTIC) actually weighs more than the crap-metal stock bodies on the Classic Army and other "full metal" versions out there. Just because it's metal doesn't mean it's better....just means they threw a cheap, poorly machined body on some crappier internals and sold it as "better than plasticy Marui AEGs" to people who don't know better.

CA manages to couple some good-on-paper internal specs with their metal bodies, but you get what you pay for. Always. That's just the way it is with this hobby, and trying to get around that will only cost you more money in the end, or a lot of frustration. If you want an upgraded, metal-bodied gun, get a Marui, an aftermarket body (the aftermarket CA bodies are DIFFERENT from the stock ones they ship with their AEGs, for instance) and some internal upgrades. If you don't want to do it, buy from a reputable seller (Airsoft Extreme in the US, or RedWolf Airsoft if you have very specific wants... The shipping isn't as bad as you may think, and they're great to deal with) and do it properly, without cutting corners.

GBBs are a little more gray... Some Taiwanese/"knockoff" guns are great (ie, the KWC Desert Eagle) and are as good as, or better than a Marui. AEGs are very different, though, and I cannot stress enough how important it is for you to NOT get an Academy, or Elite, or whatever the other crap they sell at places like ShortyUSA, Airsoft Atlanta, etc. by trying to get more for your money than you would with a Marui or maaaaaaaaaybe a highly-recommended Classic Army that's been on the market for a while and has had time for revisions and so on.

I own a good handful of AEGs, and a ridiculous amount of GBBs and other handguns (and shotguns) and have been into the sport since around 1998. Trust me on this, you do NOT want to cut corners unless you want the damn thing to hang on your wall and don't plan on shooting anything. 😉
 
Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
I've really never understood why you guys pay so much for something that shoots little plastic BBs. Paintball all the way

OK, buddy. Go run around with your glorified NERF guns and shoot at each other in your flashy clothes while dodging around huge nylon balloons with wet, neon-pink goo all over your bodies. I'll be over here with my realistic weapons at a milsim event with players actually older than 14, all the while not paying tangible amounts of cash for every trigger pull and even leave not looking like a rainbow fairy had a huge technicolor orgasm on my BDUs. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: LordMaul
OK, I have to do this, as it's something I do to all airsoft beginners (and even some semi-experienced players) when they talk about buying AEGs and GBBs: DO NOT BUY THE KNOCKOFF BRANDS. I may sound like a fanboy, but Tokyo Marui is where it's at. The reason they're the most popular is because they're built the best and are the most reliable. I've owned many different brands, types, models, etc. of guns from all over Asia and have yet to find anything as solidly built and reliable as my Marui primaries. There is simply no contest.

I bought a Classic Army after hearing good things about them (The M4A1, too, not the early-version MP5 series) and the goddamn thing stopped working after about 3 mags. It was also incredibly less solid than my Marui, which, IIRC (even though it's PLASTIC) actually weighs more than the crap-metal stock bodies on the Classic Army and other "full metal" versions out there. Just because it's metal doesn't mean it's better....just means they threw a cheap, poorly machined body on some crappier internals and sold it as "better than plasticy Marui AEGs" to people who don't know better.

CA manages to couple some good-on-paper internal specs with their metal bodies, but you get what you pay for. Always. That's just the way it is with this hobby, and trying to get around that will only cost you more money in the end, or a lot of frustration. If you want an upgraded, metal-bodied gun, get a Marui, an aftermarket body (the aftermarket CA bodies are DIFFERENT from the stock ones they ship with their AEGs, for instance) and some internal upgrades. If you don't want to do it, buy from a reputable seller (Airsoft Extreme in the US, or RedWolf Airsoft if you have very specific wants... The shipping isn't as bad as you may think, and they're great to deal with) and do it properly, without cutting corners.

GBBs are a little more gray... Some Taiwanese/"knockoff" guns are great (ie, the KWC Desert Eagle) and are as good as, or better than a Marui. AEGs are very different, though, and I cannot stress enough how important it is for you to NOT get an Academy, or Elite, or whatever the other crap they sell at places like ShortyUSA, Airsoft Atlanta, etc. by trying to get more for your money than you would with a Marui or maaaaaaaaaybe a highly-recommended Classic Army that's been on the market for a while and has had time for revisions and so on.

I own a good handful of AEGs, and a ridiculous amount of GBBs and other handguns (and shotguns) and have been into the sport since around 1998. Trust me on this, you do NOT want to cut corners unless you want the damn thing to hang on your wall and don't plan on shooting anything. 😉

Im not that experienced with airsoft, so I respect your opinion. That being said, I have had my CA MP5 for quite some time with 0 problems. I also bought mine used from CadetLee. Not only have I had no problems, but I liked it so much I convinced my roommate to get the exact same CA MP5. He also has had 0 problems with his. Maybe your CA was a manu defect.
 
Originally posted by: LordMaul
OK, I have to do this, as it's something I do to all airsoft beginners (and even some semi-experienced players) when they talk about buying AEGs and GBBs: DO NOT BUY THE KNOCKOFF BRANDS. I may sound like a fanboy, but Tokyo Marui is where it's at. The reason they're the most popular is because they're built the best and are the most reliable. I've owned many different brands, types, models, etc. of guns from all over Asia and have yet to find anything as solidly built and reliable as my Marui primaries. There is simply no contest.

I bought a Classic Army after hearing good things about them (The M4A1, too, not the early-version MP5 series) and the goddamn thing stopped working after about 3 mags. It was also incredibly less solid than my Marui, which, IIRC (even though it's PLASTIC) actually weighs more than the crap-metal stock bodies on the Classic Army and other "full metal" versions out there. Just because it's metal doesn't mean it's better....just means they threw a cheap, poorly machined body on some crappier internals and sold it as "better than plasticy Marui AEGs" to people who don't know better.

CA manages to couple some good-on-paper internal specs with their metal bodies, but you get what you pay for. Always. That's just the way it is with this hobby, and trying to get around that will only cost you more money in the end, or a lot of frustration. If you want an upgraded, metal-bodied gun, get a Marui, an aftermarket body (the aftermarket CA bodies are DIFFERENT from the stock ones they ship with their AEGs, for instance) and some internal upgrades. If you don't want to do it, buy from a reputable seller (Airsoft Extreme in the US, or RedWolf Airsoft if you have very specific wants... The shipping isn't as bad as you may think, and they're great to deal with) and do it properly, without cutting corners.

GBBs are a little more gray... Some Taiwanese/"knockoff" guns are great (ie, the KWC Desert Eagle) and are as good as, or better than a Marui. AEGs are very different, though, and I cannot stress enough how important it is for you to NOT get an Academy, or Elite, or whatever the other crap they sell at places like ShortyUSA, Airsoft Atlanta, etc. by trying to get more for your money than you would with a Marui or maaaaaaaaaybe a highly-recommended Classic Army that's been on the market for a while and has had time for revisions and so on.

I own a good handful of AEGs, and a ridiculous amount of GBBs and other handguns (and shotguns) and have been into the sport since around 1998. Trust me on this, you do NOT want to cut corners unless you want the damn thing to hang on your wall and don't plan on shooting anything. 😉

thanks for the reply!
The Airsoft Elite isn't exactly "cheap" though...it's as/more expensive than the tokyo marui and seems to offer pretty decent performance and relatively happy customers from what I've read.

So pretty much you only recommend TM?
 
Don't go with the cheap guns. You get what u pay for. Go with marui, CA, althought CYMA knockoffs are getting better and better.

TM has good internals, CA has good externals. My M15A4 CA is working fine, and it came with a hicap mag and a metal receiver. TM M4's are plastic and come with standard mags. I own both and like both, but give the edge to the CA for the metal body.
 
Originally posted by: AgentUnknown
Don't go with the cheap guns. You get what u pay for. Go with marui, CA, althought CYMA knockoffs are getting better and better.

TM has good internals, CA has good externals. My M15A4 CA is working fine, and it came with a hicap mag and a metal receiver. TM M4's are plastic and come with standard mags. I own both and like both, but give the edge to the CA for the metal body.

As I mentioned before, $270 really isn't "cheap". I believe the Airsoft Elites are ICS airsoft guns modded for performance. At least on paper, the Airsoft Elite seems to "outperform" a tokyo marui counterpart.

Nonetheless, I'm still a relative noob at airsofting and appreciate any other suggestions
 
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