Air Raids Send Iraqis Message..But what Message?

tnitsuj

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from the New York Times

Look the terrorists used this building to fire mortars...lets wait until they are gone and punch a hole in it. Look the terrorists used this spot of ground to launch an attack, let's use a $20K bomb to bomb that spot of ground and not kill any of the enemy.

You know what we need to do..we need the air force to do an all out campaign of bombing useless targets. That worked really well in Vietnam.

 

tnitsuj

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I ask you. what is the point? This makes it look we are the desperate ones running out of ideas. Reacting to the enemy not the other way around.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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The point would be to make Gen. Abizaid feel better. When frustrated blow something up.

 

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The point would be to make Gen. Abizaid feel better. When frustrated blow something up.*

Great post. Underlined it and put a little star by it for you. Really good.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet
The point would be to make Gen. Abizaid feel better. When frustrated blow something up.*

Great post. Underlined it and put a little star by it for you. Really good.

Thanks. Welcome back BTW.

I was addressing this specific action with something appropriate commensurate to the wisdom of the act. You failed to get it, but that is not suprising.



:music: There, now you can do a dance.
 

CaptnKirk

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If these places were in fact being used to plan and then launch attacks from -
Why in the hell didn't the area get staked out with a Special Forces Team
and when they entered the Killing Zone let them know that they have been
out flanked and it's up to them to surrender or we will exercise our options.
They decide to residt, we play trump in the form of Spectre, Apaches, Kitchen Sink
or whatever we need to do to suppres their actions.
Catch them with the goods don't just blow down the tent.

We'll huff, and we'll puff . . . . .
Cry Wolf too often and they don't fear the sheep.
 

UltraQuiet

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
If these places were in fact being used to plan and then launch attacks from -
Why in the hell didn't the area get staked out with a Special Forces Team
and when they entered the Killing Zone let them know that they have been
out flanked and it's up to them to surrender or we will exercise our options.
They decide to residt, we play trump in the form of Spectre, Apaches, Kitchen Sink
or whatever we need to do to suppres their actions.
Catch them with the goods don't just blow down the tent.

We'll huff, and we'll puff . . . . .
Cry Wolf too often and they don't fear the sheep.

I'll make the point, I was trying to make to Winston, to you directly. It is very easy to sit here, 80 gazillion miles away, and criticize based on an article on the internet. Feel free to do so but it seems very silly to me. We know very little of what goes into the planning and rationalizations of operations like these.

 

CaptnKirk

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Going out and blindly hitting any thing (after the fact) to 'Deny Access to the Foe'
didn't work in 'Nam when we destroyed villages simply because they were there - and the
Viet Cong 'might' use them - so we saved them from themselves - didn't work then.

And the apperance of using the Israeli tactic of blasting anything suspect and wiping
out houses the perpetrators 'may' have come from meetings at is a bit absurd.
I takes on the perspective of "They have WMD and are going to use them now !"
We know how well documentaed the specific locations of that material was.

Sure it's easy to sit back and watch the TV or read things on the internet and
try to Armchair Quarterback the situation, but the best thing that any citizen can do
is to observe, learn, absorb information, and use that information to deduct the truth.

IN MY OPINION - this Administration is lost in a sea of 'Mis-spokes' and ever changing
reasons to try to squelch the actual facts when the information does finally become evident.

Yesterday they claim to have hit 'Known Terrorist Strongholds, Meeting and Planning Facilities'
Today they claim to have hit a group of 7 Iraqi Terrorists preparing a rocket attack on our men.
We have NO EMBEDDED REPORTERS in with troops at this phase of the war,
and every detail that is released is approved for release by a Military Command.

Will this hold up under scrutiny when the news reporting journalists of the world have had
an opportunity to sit down and analyze what really did happen by interviewing - with interprators
the families of those killed or captured, and the eyewitnesses to those events ?
Or will this be another group of goat ropers like on the border of Syria, or a gun smuggler,
or a fuel smuggler in the streets. If it really was a resistant cell - good we got them.
But if it was some group of teenage boys playing 'kick the can' - we've lost more allegiance.

This is not the first war that things have gone wrong for the U.S. Forces in,
but this post 9-11 paranoia is taking it's toll on us when we over-react.
What if's and maybes don't pass the test.
 

mastertech01

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Maybe it just serves to give our soldiers over there a little more confidence that they are not alone, defenseless, and still have air support if needed. If nothing really important is damaged and that accomplished the desired effect, maybe it isnt such a horribly bad idea.
 

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Message:

We are your new masters. Behold our magnificient might and ability to crush your infrastructure. Obey us or be destroyed. Resistance is futile. Enjoy liberation.