Air America robs NY city's poor

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Krk3561

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Amazing what passes for vetted, factual information these days. Republican blogger with an axe to grind? Check. Anonymous tipster named "FYI" reporting in to blogger? Check.

:roll:

The same could be said for a lot the sh!t that you libs are spewing too

Damn that Washington Post, New York Times, Wall Street Journal, USA Today, UK London Times, UK Guardian...

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Krk3561

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Amazing what passes for vetted, factual information these days. Republican blogger with an axe to grind? Check. Anonymous tipster named "FYI" reporting in to blogger? Check.

:roll:

The same could be said for a lot the sh!t that you libs are spewing too

Perhaps you should deal with them on a case-by-case basis then. That's what I'm doing.

 

[piasabird]

Why do you need Air America when the network media already has a liberal minded bias?

For years stations have aired these shows on pbs and sunday morning programs with the social engineering psycho-babble.

Let the show be governed by normal ratings and just pass off into the shadows.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Why do you need Air America when the network media already has a liberal minded bias?

For years stations have aired these shows on pbs and sunday morning programs with the social engineering psycho-babble.

Let the show be governed by normal ratings and just pass off into the shadows.

Hmm... Ann Coulter has stated that "we have the media now." Is she a liar?

 

[Krk3561]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: piasabird
Why do you need Air America when the network media already has a liberal minded bias?

For years stations have aired these shows on pbs and sunday morning programs with the social engineering psycho-babble.

Let the show be governed by normal ratings and just pass off into the shadows.

Hmm... Ann Coulter has stated that "we have the media now." Is she a liar?

Anyone that takes Coulter seriously is a nutjob

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Krk3561

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: piasabird
Why do you need Air America when the network media already has a liberal minded bias?

For years stations have aired these shows on pbs and sunday morning programs with the social engineering psycho-babble.

Let the show be governed by normal ratings and just pass off into the shadows.

Hmm... Ann Coulter has stated that "we have the media now." Is she a liar?

Anyone that takes Coulter seriously is a nutjob

Ok, as long as you aren't that far off the deep end.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Does anyone else notice that there is a pattern to this thread that is the polar opposite to the Rove and DeLay threads?

The pattern that I speak of is the "libs" being satisfied that Cohen was fired and stating that, if found guilty of these allegations, he should be punished. Not a single excuse for the behavior.

The "cons" fighting vehemently to defend Rove and DeLay at all costs and making excuse after excuse for their, if not illegal, certainly immoral behavior and claiming that the left does it too so it is ok. That they shouldn't be fired or resign. That what they did wasn't so bad.

Oh, and before those that I am offending with this post try to spin it, wanting more verification by a little less biased source is not the same as defending the action. I am pretty sure that someone will try to say something along the lines of:

"So and so said that the source was just a right wing spew machine so it doesn't count"

That has no bearing on the fact that not a single person said anything in defense of Cohen.

Edit: Typo

 

[conjur]

I've noticed that, too, RIW.

 

[Deudalus]

The pattern that I speak of is the "libs" being satisfied that Cohen was fired and stating that, if found guilty of these allegations, he should be punished. Not a single excuse for the behavior.

Actually, Cohen wasn't fired.

Cohen quit when the radio station was at its lowest point when they couldn't pay anyone and everyone lost their health coverage. He resigned.

You are right that the libs and conservatives take a completely polar opposite view on the two, but you are very far off on your portayal. I've heard countless libs post "How far does Rove-gate go? Was Bush involved?" Hoping that there will be a huge fiasco.

Where as no conservatives here have stated that they think that Franken and company were in the know on this scandal and were actually involved.

I guess the conservatives just aren't as needy for a political scandal.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: Deudalus

The pattern that I speak of is the "libs" being satisfied that Cohen was fired and stating that, if found guilty of these allegations, he should be punished. Not a single excuse for the behavior.

Actually, Cohen wasn't fired.

Cohen quit when the radio station was at its lowest point when they couldn't pay anyone and everyone lost their health coverage. He resigned.

You are right that the libs and conservatives take a completely polar opposite view on the two, but you are very far off on your portayal. I've heard countless libs post "How far does Rove-gate go? Was Bush involved?" Hoping that there will be a huge fiasco.

Where as no conservatives here have stated that they think that Franken and company were in the know on this scandal and were actually involved.

I guess the conservatives just aren't as needy for a political scandal.

I stand corrected on how his departure from AA came about. You are also correct about the libs acting like sharks that get a smell of blood in the water. However, the OP is claiming that the station as a whole robbed this agency of it's funding. That would imply that a majority knew of what was happening.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Deudalus

The pattern that I speak of is the "libs" being satisfied that Cohen was fired and stating that, if found guilty of these allegations, he should be punished. Not a single excuse for the behavior.

Actually, Cohen wasn't fired.

Cohen quit when the radio station was at its lowest point when they couldn't pay anyone and everyone lost their health coverage. He resigned.

You are right that the libs and conservatives take a completely polar opposite view on the two, but you are very far off on your portayal. I've heard countless libs post "How far does Rove-gate go? Was Bush involved?" Hoping that there will be a huge fiasco.

Where as no conservatives here have stated that they think that Franken and company were in the know on this scandal and were actually involved.

I guess the conservatives just aren't as needy for a political scandal.

He was asked to resign.

Over the next few days, the pair from Guam talked to company lawyers, executives and investors. After hearing what they considered unsatisfactory answers, the investors called a meeting on May 5 at Air America's Park Avenue headquarters. They asked Messrs. Cohen and Sorensen to resign and hand over voting control of their shares to Mr. Goodfriend, according to three people familiar with the negotiations.

Being asked to resign is the polite way of saying "You're fired."

 

[BBond]

All charges without proof. I think we should hold off on all comment until the investigation is over.

:roll:

 

[BBond]

Threads like this one demonstrate precisely how the loonie right is marginalizing itself and why the commom-sense right is distancing itself from them.

Keep up the kindergarten commentary, young-uns.

:roll:

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: BBond
Threads like this one demonstrate precisely how the loonie right is marginalizing itself and why the commom-sense right is distancing itself from them.

Keep up the kindergarten commentary, young-uns.

:roll:

Oh oh oh uh uh, you're just a poopy head! :laugh:

 

[Deudalus]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: Deudalus

The pattern that I speak of is the "libs" being satisfied that Cohen was fired and stating that, if found guilty of these allegations, he should be punished. Not a single excuse for the behavior.

Actually, Cohen wasn't fired.

Cohen quit when the radio station was at its lowest point when they couldn't pay anyone and everyone lost their health coverage. He resigned.

You are right that the libs and conservatives take a completely polar opposite view on the two, but you are very far off on your portayal. I've heard countless libs post "How far does Rove-gate go? Was Bush involved?" Hoping that there will be a huge fiasco.

Where as no conservatives here have stated that they think that Franken and company were in the know on this scandal and were actually involved.

I guess the conservatives just aren't as needy for a political scandal.

I stand corrected on how his departure from AA came about. You are also correct about the libs acting like sharks that get a smell of blood in the water. However, the OP is claiming that the station as a whole robbed this agency of it's funding. That would imply that a majority knew of what was happening.

The only thing that irks me as a moderate Republican is the hypocrisy of it all.

Rove has been pretty much exonerated of all charges. Plame doesn't meet the criteria of a covert CIA agent. She isn't even close to meeting that criteria. Thus, no law was broken by Rove. What he did might have been shady, he might deserve to get fired over it. Either way thats a personal opinion and without knowing the hard facts on what exactly he said we can't make that judgement.

Hell, the same media sources that are claiming Karl Rove broke the law submitted a brief to the court stating that he didn't to protect their reporters.

But this might actually involve criminal charges. It involves political pundits which the media loves to report dirt on (take the Rush Limbaugh drug fiasco for example). Yet it gets no coverage.

 

[BBond]

Do you not understand about people making all this idiotic commentary before the facts are in, and making comments on the level of 12 year olds?

Whether or not Air America Radio is guilty is not the point here. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. We will find out soon enough. The point is that we don't know for sure yet but there are those already jumping the gun and making the snide comments. And I'm sure if it turns out that AAR isn't the one you won't see a single one of those jokes in here making moronic commentary revisting this thread to apologize or admit they were wrong.

Gee, isn't pointing fingers and making assinine claims fun?

:roll:

 

[rustynails]

Originally posted by: BushBasha

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: BushBasha
Seems if it is any Republican, they don't deserve due process...that was my point.

Why do you call yourself BushBasha? Shouldn't it be BushLuva?

I call them as I see them. Perhaps people in these forums would rather I act as the puppetmaster wishes, but I am right in the center of logic lane, driving full speed.

I've bashed Bush and Republican polices in some threads and Democrats in others. I am sorry if I am not partisan enough for your liking. Please forgive me, masta.

bushbashabastardmasta not a partisan hack? What a stool pigeon.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Deudalus

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: Deudalus

The pattern that I speak of is the "libs" being satisfied that Cohen was fired and stating that, if found guilty of these allegations, he should be punished. Not a single excuse for the behavior.

Actually, Cohen wasn't fired.

Cohen quit when the radio station was at its lowest point when they couldn't pay anyone and everyone lost their health coverage. He resigned.

You are right that the libs and conservatives take a completely polar opposite view on the two, but you are very far off on your portayal. I've heard countless libs post "How far does Rove-gate go? Was Bush involved?" Hoping that there will be a huge fiasco.

Where as no conservatives here have stated that they think that Franken and company were in the know on this scandal and were actually involved.

I guess the conservatives just aren't as needy for a political scandal.

I stand corrected on how his departure from AA came about. You are also correct about the libs acting like sharks that get a smell of blood in the water. However, the OP is claiming that the station as a whole robbed this agency of it's funding. That would imply that a majority knew of what was happening.

The only thing that irks me as a moderate Republican is the hypocrisy of it all.

Rove has been pretty much exonerated of all charges. Plame doesn't meet the criteria of a covert CIA agent. She isn't even close to meeting that criteria. Thus, no law was broken by Rove. What he did might have been shady, he might deserve to get fired over it. Either way thats a personal opinion and without knowing the hard facts on what exactly he said we can't make that judgement.

Hell, the same media sources that are claiming Karl Rove broke the law submitted a brief to the court stating that he didn't to protect their reporters.

But this might actually involve criminal charges. It involves political pundits which the media loves to report dirt on (take the Rush Limbaugh drug fiasco for example). Yet it gets no coverage.

Ok, if you want to talk about hypocrisy, please don't start off by spouting off GOP talking points.

 

[BushBasha]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

...and claiming that the left does it too so it is ok. That they shouldn't be fired or resign. That what they did wasn't so bad.

[/b]

I agreed with you until I got to this part. Perhaps rather than spending their time posting "Fire Rove" and "Fire DeLay" petitions on their political pages (John Kerry had both up there; I think the attack de jour this month is unequivocally a president's aide and not policies, so that's his primary focus), some people are actually trying to legislate policy (what a novel concept) and move America in the right direction.

Could someone name one single policy initiative that has come out of the Democratic leadership since Kerry was campaigning?

This is what John Kerry has been working on since he returned to work

Congresswoman Slaughter has been busy trying to bring down an aide

Our good friends at Air America now has a horse in the race

The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee has nothing else to do

MoveOn.org is still trying to decide if the soup de jour is Rove or Roberts this week; they've covered both last week, but the front page is now 'We hate Roberts' based

The DNC...well, what did you expect? Rove is the first thing on the page...have to dig deep for any agenda

Rep. John Conyers is calling on people to have "RoveGate" parties in their homes...screw policy

ad nauseam

 

[Deudalus]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: Deudalus

The pattern that I speak of is the "libs" being satisfied that Cohen was fired and stating that, if found guilty of these allegations, he should be punished. Not a single excuse for the behavior.

Actually, Cohen wasn't fired.

Cohen quit when the radio station was at its lowest point when they couldn't pay anyone and everyone lost their health coverage. He resigned.

You are right that the libs and conservatives take a completely polar opposite view on the two, but you are very far off on your portayal. I've heard countless libs post "How far does Rove-gate go? Was Bush involved?" Hoping that there will be a huge fiasco.

Where as no conservatives here have stated that they think that Franken and company were in the know on this scandal and were actually involved.

I guess the conservatives just aren't as needy for a political scandal.

He was asked to resign.

Over the next few days, the pair from Guam talked to company lawyers, executives and investors. After hearing what they considered unsatisfactory answers, the investors called a meeting on May 5 at Air America's Park Avenue headquarters. They asked Messrs. Cohen and Sorensen to resign and hand over voting control of their shares to Mr. Goodfriend, according to three people familiar with the negotiations.

Being asked to resign is the polite way of saying "You're fired."

I wasn't aware of that and I suppose you are right.

But alot of the Democrats are attempting to smooth this over by saying he was fired because of this scandal when it is apparent that his resignation had nothing to do with this scandal at all.

Ironic that he was forced to resign for not raising enough money while he was stealing money from old people and kids.

 

[BBond]

You'd think the right would have learned not to pop off their mouths after the conservative media stumbled so ineptly with Iraq and Treasongate. They don't seem to learn squat though.

Here's hoping the White House actually gets it right this time.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Deudalus

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: Deudalus

The pattern that I speak of is the "libs" being satisfied that Cohen was fired and stating that, if found guilty of these allegations, he should be punished. Not a single excuse for the behavior.

Actually, Cohen wasn't fired.

Cohen quit when the radio station was at its lowest point when they couldn't pay anyone and everyone lost their health coverage. He resigned.

You are right that the libs and conservatives take a completely polar opposite view on the two, but you are very far off on your portayal. I've heard countless libs post "How far does Rove-gate go? Was Bush involved?" Hoping that there will be a huge fiasco.

Where as no conservatives here have stated that they think that Franken and company were in the know on this scandal and were actually involved.

I guess the conservatives just aren't as needy for a political scandal.

He was asked to resign.

Over the next few days, the pair from Guam talked to company lawyers, executives and investors. After hearing what they considered unsatisfactory answers, the investors called a meeting on May 5 at Air America's Park Avenue headquarters. They asked Messrs. Cohen and Sorensen to resign and hand over voting control of their shares to Mr. Goodfriend, according to three people familiar with the negotiations.

Being asked to resign is the polite way of saying "You're fired."

I wasn't aware of that and I suppose you are right.

But alot of the Democrats are attempting to smooth this over by saying he was fired because of this scandal when it is apparent that his resignation had nothing to do with this scandal at all.

Ironic that he was forced to resign for not raising enough money while he was stealing money from old people and kids.

Scum come in all forms. What he did with the money, who knows?

 

[Deudalus]

Originally posted by: BushBasha

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

...and claiming that the left does it too so it is ok. That they shouldn't be fired or resign. That what they did wasn't so bad.

[/b]

I agreed with you until I got to this part. Perhaps rather than spending their time posting "Fire Rove" and "Fire DeLay" petitions on their political pages (John Kerry had both up there; I think the attack de jour this month is unequivocally a president's aide and not policies, so that's his primary focus), some people are actually trying to legislate policy (what a novel concept) and move America in the right direction.

Could someone name one single policy initiative that has come out of the Democratic leadership since Kerry was campaigning?

This is what John Kerry has been working on since he returned to work

Congresswoman Slaughter has been busy trying to bring down an aide

Our good friends at Air America now has a horse in the race

The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee has nothing else to do

https://political.moveon.org/donate/rove.html">MoveOn.org is still trying to decide if the soup de jour is Rove or Roberts this week; they've covered both last week, but the front page is now 'We hate Roberts' based</a>

The DNC...well, what did you expect? Rove is the first thing on the page...have to dig deep for any agenda

Rep. John Conyers is calling on people to have "RoveGate" parties in their homes...screw policy

ad nauseam

Gotta quote that one for truth.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Deudalus
Rove has been pretty much exonerated of all charges. Plame doesn't meet the criteria of a covert CIA agent. She isn't even close to meeting that criteria. Thus, no law was broken by Rove. What he did might have been shady, he might deserve to get fired over it. Either way thats a personal opinion and without knowing the hard facts on what exactly he said we can't make that judgement.

Hell, the same media sources that are claiming Karl Rove broke the law submitted a brief to the court stating that he didn't to protect their reporters.

But this might actually involve criminal charges. It involves political pundits which the media loves to report dirt on (take the Rush Limbaugh drug fiasco for example). Yet it gets no coverage.

Your reply is off-topic in this thread but I thought I'd direct you to this article (which is also in the Karl Rove/perjury thread)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co...cle/2005/07/26/AR2005072602069_pf.html

"Harlow, the former CIA spokesman, said in an interview yesterday that he testified last year before a grand jury about conversations he had with Novak at least three days before the column was published. He said he warned Novak, in the strongest terms he was permitted to use without revealing classified information, that Wilson's wife had not authorized the mission and that if he did write about it, her name should not be revealed.

"Harlow said that after Novak's call, he checked Plame's status and confirmed that she was an undercover operative. He said he called Novak back to repeat that the story Novak had related to him was wrong and that Plame's name should not be used. But he did not tell Novak directly that she was undercover because that was classified."

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: BushBasha

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

...and claiming that the left does it too so it is ok. That they shouldn't be fired or resign. That what they did wasn't so bad.

[/b]

I agreed with you until I got to this part. Perhaps rather than spending their time posting "Fire Rove" and "Fire DeLay" petitions on their political pages (John Kerry had both up there; I think the attack de jour this month is unequivocally a president's aide and not policies, so that's his primary focus), some people are actually trying to legislate policy (what a novel concept) and move America in the right direction.

Could someone name one single policy initiative that has come out of the Democratic leadership since Kerry was campaigning?

This is what John Kerry has been working on since he returned to work

Congresswoman Slaughter has been busy trying to bring down an aide

Our good friends at Air America now has a horse in the race

The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee has nothing else to do

https://political.moveon.org/donate/rove.html">MoveOn.org is still trying to decide if the soup de jour is Rove or Roberts this week; they've covered both last week, but the front page is now 'We hate Roberts' based</a>

The DNC...well, what did you expect? Rove is the first thing on the page...have to dig deep for any agenda

Rep. John Conyers is calling on people to have "RoveGate" parties in their homes...screw policy

ad nauseam

This is in response to Bush's claim that anyone "involved" in the leak would be fired. Well, Rove and Co. were involved and Bush should be a man of his word and fire him/them.