Air America bites the dust.

[Hayabusa Rider]

http://airamerica.com/


Not that I listen to talk radio, but that pretty much puts the Left's experiment in that venue out to pasture.

It seems to me that they would have more luck with the internet anyway, so I don't think it hurts them too much.

Another page is turned.

 

[nick1985]

lol

 

[Patranus]

TUES. JAN. 19, 2010

FOXNEWS HANNITY 6,809,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 6,399,000
FOXNEWS O'REILLY 5,228,000
FOXNEWS BECK 3,446,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 3,338,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 3,241,000
CNN KING 1,681,000
CNN COOPER 1,508,000
CNN BROWN 1,308,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,274,000
MSNBC MADDOW 1,236,000
CNN BLITZER 1,135,000
CNNHN BEHAR 845,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 798,000

I wonder why.

 

[JSt0rm]

TUES. JAN. 19, 2010

FOXNEWS HANNITY 6,809,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 6,399,000
FOXNEWS O'REILLY 5,228,000
FOXNEWS BECK 3,446,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 3,338,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 3,241,000
CNN KING 1,681,000
CNN COOPER 1,508,000
CNN BROWN 1,308,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,274,000
MSNBC MADDOW 1,236,000
CNN BLITZER 1,135,000
CNNHN BEHAR 845,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 798,000

I wonder why.

um...I can only speak for myself but I listen to npr and I don't watch TV.

 

[Genx87]

Clearly these guys need govt intervention! Joe Biden will tell us what a national treasure Air America is to us.

 

[yllus]

TUES. JAN. 19, 2010

FOXNEWS HANNITY 6,809,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 6,399,000
FOXNEWS O'REILLY 5,228,000
FOXNEWS BECK 3,446,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 3,338,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 3,241,000
CNN KING 1,681,000
CNN COOPER 1,508,000
CNN BROWN 1,308,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,274,000
MSNBC MADDOW 1,236,000
CNN BLITZER 1,135,000
CNNHN BEHAR 845,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 798,000

I wonder why.

Just curious, do you think that's something to be proud of? I typically don't think much of people who get their news from television - much less "news" from the likes of Beck and Olbermann.

To me, I'd take this as a sign that the "right" is slightly thicker in the head than the "left".

 

[Unheard]

Did you see all the excuses in that letter? Well the economy and advertising and and and.... Wake up Air America, no one wanted to listen to your crappy programming.

 

[cubby1223]

Last April was when I first found Chicago's "progressive" talk radio station on the dial, decided to listen to it for a while, they were absolutely bat-shit crazy!!! No rational person could ever stand listening to that filth.

Last April on the random half-hour I was listening, the whole show was a party, still celebrating Obama and the stimulus, as our nation's greatest victory against "the rich" - despite the country still being in shit economic condition. Every caller in to the show was expressing a sense of absolute joy that the poor people are able to finally live the high-life and send the check to "the rich".

They're under now, *everyone* saw this coming. "Progressives" have ideas that sound great in theory, but nearly all are absolutely horrible in practice. And I have to believe this failing is because listeners are wising up to the fact that the government does not hold all the solutions, and being persistently hateful towards other Americans is never good for anything.

 

[Patranus]

Just curious, do you think that's something to be proud of? I typically don't think much of people who get their news from television - much less "news" from the likes of Beck and Olbermann.

To me, I'd take this as a sign that the "right" is slightly thicker in the head than the "left".

I am simply stating that there is a product people want (FNC) and a product that less people want (CNN/MSNBC).

If Air America offered a product people wanted it would be in business. There are not enough "progressives" in this country to support Air America.

 

[Genx87]

Did you see all the excuses in that letter? Well the economy and advertising and and and.... Wake up Air America, no one wanted to listen to your crappy programming.

I did find it funny they acknowledged altenative media but then tried to take credit for turning public opinion on the war. Moveon.org and other websites did far more on that than the 12 listeners who tuned into AA ever day. My personal favorite memory of this rag was when they didnt pay insurance benefits for their employee's. Every day on the air ragging on Walmart and they do the same thing.

 

[Craig234]

TUES. JAN. 19, 2010

FOXNEWS HANNITY 6,809,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 6,399,000
FOXNEWS O'REILLY 5,228,000
FOXNEWS BECK 3,446,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 3,338,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 3,241,000
CNN KING 1,681,000
CNN COOPER 1,508,000
CNN BROWN 1,308,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,274,000
MSNBC MADDOW 1,236,000
CNN BLITZER 1,135,000
CNNHN BEHAR 845,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 798,000

I wonder why.

One reason is because deep-pockets propagandist Murdoch spent years spending big bucks to BUY Fox a market position. He lost money for years, covering all the losses in ways real companies like Air America have no billionares to do for them. Every cable show was paid by the cable companies for its costs; Fox, not good enough to get bought, had Murdoch paying the cable companies to take the show, for the first time in cable history.

All kinds of right-wing propaganda is subsidized. William Kristol's daily posts loses millions, with only 85,000 subscribers, but is subsidized by Murdoch and gets Kristol access tomany shows as a 'pundit'

The right-wing crazy Rev. Moon has spent billions subsidizing the losses on the Washington Times.

Right-wing books are regularly bought in masse by wealthy right-wing tycoons to make them show up on bestseller lists, and handed out for free or near-free to right-wing organizations.

There are others.

Like many media products, with enough money to force it on people, Fox eventually did build its audience and now stands on its own as profitable. No problem it was created as a right-wing propaganda business.

To be fair, I'll note, Murdoch's motive wasn't propaganda - he was just willing. It was money eventually..

 

[nick1985]

Good one Craig.

rofl

 

[CADsortaGUY]

One reason is because deep-pockets propagandist Murdoch spent years spending big bucks to BUY Fox a market position. He lost money for years, covering all the losses in ways real companies like Air America have no billionares to do for them. Every cable show was paid by the cable companies for its costs; Fox, not good enough to get bought, had Murdoch paying the cable companies to take the show, for the first time in cable history.

All kinds of right-wing propaganda is subsidized. William Kristol's daily posts loses millions, with only 85,000 subscribers, but is subsidized by Murdoch and gets Kristol access tomany shows as a 'pundit'

The right-wing crazy Rev. Moon has spent billions subsidizing the losses on the Washington Times.

Right-wing books are regularly bought in masse by wealthy right-wing tycoons to make them show up on bestseller lists, and handed out for free or near-free to right-wing organizations.

There are others.

Like many media products, with enough money to force it on people, Fox eventually did build its audience and now stands on its own as profitable. No problem it was created as a right-wing propaganda business.

To be fair, I'll note, Murdoch's motive wasn't propaganda - he was just willing. It was money eventually..

Yeah, I guess Cohen and the Greens aren't rich(might not be anymore though ) But it's total BS for you to suggest that Air America didn't have rich funders.

 

[CPA]

One reason is because deep-pockets propagandist Murdoch spent years spending big bucks to BUY Fox a market position. He lost money for years, covering all the losses in ways real companies like Air America have no billionares to do for them. Every cable show was paid by the cable companies for its costs; Fox, not good enough to get bought, had Murdoch paying the cable companies to take the show, for the first time in cable history.

All kinds of right-wing propaganda is subsidized. William Kristol's daily posts loses millions, with only 85,000 subscribers, but is subsidized by Murdoch and gets Kristol access tomany shows as a 'pundit'

The right-wing crazy Rev. Moon has spent billions subsidizing the losses on the Washington Times.

Right-wing books are regularly bought in masse by wealthy right-wing tycoons to make them show up on bestseller lists, and handed out for free or near-free to right-wing organizations.

There are others.

Like many media products, with enough money to force it on people, Fox eventually did build its audience and now stands on its own as profitable. No problem it was created as a right-wing propaganda business.

To be fair, I'll note, Murdoch's motive wasn't propaganda - he was just willing. It was money eventually..

Let me clue you in on a little secret: Almost all companies lose money their first few years. I can guarantee, however, that if Fox News had continued to lose money, Murdoch, like any prudent businessman, would get rid of it.

 

[Amused]

One reason is because deep-pockets propagandist Murdoch spent years spending big bucks to BUY Fox a market position. He lost money for years, covering all the losses in ways real companies like Air America have no billionares to do for them. Every cable show was paid by the cable companies for its costs; Fox, not good enough to get bought, had Murdoch paying the cable companies to take the show, for the first time in cable history.

All kinds of right-wing propaganda is subsidized. William Kristol's daily posts loses millions, with only 85,000 subscribers, but is subsidized by Murdoch and gets Kristol access tomany shows as a 'pundit'

The right-wing crazy Rev. Moon has spent billions subsidizing the losses on the Washington Times.

Right-wing books are regularly bought in masse by wealthy right-wing tycoons to make them show up on bestseller lists, and handed out for free or near-free to right-wing organizations.

There are others.

Like many media products, with enough money to force it on people, Fox eventually did build its audience and now stands on its own as profitable. No problem it was created as a right-wing propaganda business.

To be fair, I'll note, Murdoch's motive wasn't propaganda - he was just willing. It was money eventually..

It's a vast right wing conspiracy!

 

[Craig234]

Yeah, I guess Cohen and the Greens aren't rich(might not be anymore though ) But it's total BS for you to suggest that Air America didn't have rich funders.

Not comparable to Murdoch. Of course they had backers, like about any business getting started.

 

[Craig234]

It's a vast right wing conspiracy!

I've no interest in your ignorance until you read, say, David Brock's "Vast right-wing noise machine", or at least enugh to get a clue before you parrot.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Not comparable to Murdoch. Of course they had backers, like about any business getting started.

Whatever you say. It's a different business to be sure, but for you to suggest that Air America didn't have rich backers like Fox did is utter BS.

Wake up Craig - you've lost it - you need to break out of the trance you're in - it's ok - you went nuts for a bit but I have faith you can recover if you try.

 

[Craig234]

Let me clue you in on a little secret: Almost all companies lose money their first few years. I can guarantee, however, that if Fox News had continued to lose money, Murdoch, like any prudent businessman, would get rid of it.

Ya, like he got rid of the NY Post. Like Rev. Moon got rid of the Washington Times. Let's see, what are we at, is the investmenr during losses at 30 or 40 years? Just getting it to profitability.

It's a matter of degree.

What you disengenuously ignore is the comparison between Fox as backed by very deep pockets for years with a business starting with far less backing for losses.

 

[Craig234]

Whatever you say. It's a different business to be sure, but for you to suggest that Air America didn't have rich backers like Fox did is utter BS.

Wake up Craig - you've lost it - you need to break out of the trance you're in - it's ok - you went nuts for a bit but I have faith you can recover if you try.

You're right, Air America had financial backing covering the same size losses as Fox had. You aren't too good at math, are you? You're supposed to ignore the zeros to the LEFT, not the right.

 

[Craig234]

To disrupt the hyenas cackling for a moment with facts,does anyone have a list of any shows now off the air? It's hard to keep track with all the alternative networks for former Air America people.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

You're right, Air America had financial backing covering the same size losses as Fox had. You aren't too good at math, are you? You're supposed to ignore the zeros to the LEFT, not the right.

I think that the left just doesn't do talk radio. That's been the right's thing for a long time. Most of what I see and hear is on the internet.

If the left isn't seriously invested to listening to talk radio, one can throw any amount of money into it.

 

[boomerang]

If there was a market for their drivel, they would have succeeded. It's as simple as that. Any other explanation falls under the guise of a "vast left wing conspiracy theory" and the nation has shown they're weary of that thinking.

The progressive movement is dying.

Rachel Maddow jumped ship in a timely manner - or did she? Out of the frying pan and into the fire I'd say.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

You're right, Air America had financial backing covering the same size losses as Fox had. You aren't too good at math, are you? You're supposed to ignore the zeros to the LEFT, not the right.

Nowhere did I say they had the same loses, but again, if Fox hadn't become profitable by gaining viewers and marketshare they would have gone tits up too. The difference wasn't in the depth of pockets - it was it's business model and market potential. AA failed twice with 2 different sugar mommas. Face it - no one wants to listen to you and your types whine all day.

 

[Infohawk]

Just curious, do you think that's something to be proud of? I typically don't think much of people who get their news from television - much less "news" from the likes of Beck and Olbermann.

To me, I'd take this as a sign that the "right" is slightly thicker in the head than the "left".

This.

Yeah, there are dumb people on the right and left but even the dumb lefties seem to get their news from slightly less retarded sources than "talk" radio.