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Ain't no 'Sin-City' here . . .

CaptnKirk

CaptnKirk

Lifer
You have to be 'Saintly' to live here

Domino's Pizza founder Thomas S. Monaghan, after larding up the youth of America with fast food
now wants to save you - from yourself. . . and you thought the Soup Nazi was bad. :shocked:


Not sure, but wouldn't a town in the US founded on conformance to religion and the rejection of others be a Constitutional breach ?

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The pizza magnate is bankrolling the project with at least $250 million and calls it "God's will."

Civil libertarians say the plan is unconstitutional and are threatening to sue.

The town of Ave Maria is being constructed around Ave Maria University, the first Catholic university to be built in the United States in about 40 years. Both are set to open next year about 25 miles east of Naples in southwestern Florida.

The town and the university, developed in partnership with the Barron Collier Co., an agricultural and real estate business, will be set on 5,000 acres with a European-inspired town center, a massive church and what planners call the largest crucifix in the nation, at nearly 65 feet tall. Monaghan envisions 11,000 homes and 20,000 residents.

During a speech last year at a Catholic men's gathering in Boston, Monaghan said that in his community, stores will not sell pornographic magazines, pharmacies will not carry condoms or birth control pills, and cable television will have no X-rated channels.

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Mickey Rourke, Bruce Willis, Elijah Wood, and Jessica Alba won't be happy there.
 
Gosh that sounds like eden, or nirvana or a festering hole of uptight people. Better than Vegas any day. Jesus is gonna be so happy. All this speaking for him and complete intolerance of others, sounds just like the j-man.
 
It sounds mostly legal. If there is a law that requires a pharmacy to carry birth control and it doesn't that would not be legal. But if you own the pharmacy you can choose not to carry porno mags. If you rent a house to someone and the terms of the lease are that you are including cable tv under a contract you have with the cable company, and that the renter cannot order channels on their own nor put up sat dishes than you can choose the channels you offer.
Of course the whole idea is lunacy and Anti-American and against the words and teachings of Jesus Christ (imo) there is nothing wrong with it.
Of course if Monaghan does this I won't buy his cr*ppy pizza ever again. And that is my legal right.
EDIT: Oops. I just saw he sold off Dominoes.
So I guess I can still eat the cr*ppy pizza.
Doesn't Monaghan own some sports teams? I can boycott their games.
 
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
You have to be 'Saintly' to live here

Domino's Pizza founder Thomas S. Monaghan, after larding up the youth of America with fast food
now wants to save you - from yourself. . . and you thought the Soup Nazi was bad. :shocked:


Not sure, but wouldn't a town in the US founded on conformance to religion and the rejection of others be a Constitutional breach ?

. . . . . .

The pizza magnate is bankrolling the project with at least $250 million and calls it "God's will."

Civil libertarians say the plan is unconstitutional and are threatening to sue.

The town of Ave Maria is being constructed around Ave Maria University, the first Catholic university to be built in the United States in about 40 years. Both are set to open next year about 25 miles east of Naples in southwestern Florida.

The town and the university, developed in partnership with the Barron Collier Co., an agricultural and real estate business, will be set on 5,000 acres with a European-inspired town center, a massive church and what planners call the largest crucifix in the nation, at nearly 65 feet tall. Monaghan envisions 11,000 homes and 20,000 residents.

During a speech last year at a Catholic men's gathering in Boston, Monaghan said that in his community, stores will not sell pornographic magazines, pharmacies will not carry condoms or birth control pills, and cable television will have no X-rated channels.

- - - - -

Mickey Rourke, Bruce Willis, Elijah Wood, and Jessica Alba won't be happy there.
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This guy has been doing wacky stuff for years. Near where I went to college, in Ann Arbor, MI, he's in the news all the time, everyone pretty much makes him out the be the "Bored person with too much time and money on his hands"

He bought several apartment buildings and turned them into dorms, adjacent to the Ave Maria college he started up here. He also bought an old frat house, renovated it, and turned it into sleeping quarters for all the nuns that would be the colleges' teachers.

I think he eventually sold off most of that though to start the larger project in Florida from scratch. I think they had problems with all these super-religious kids living in thier dorms, when right outside you have state college kids getting wasted and making fools of themselves. Too much exposure to corruption I guess.

I dont see a problem with it though, if people want to start a new town from scratch, then let them. The people that want to live like that will move there, and those that dont, won't. Everyones happy.
 
Well, if people want to live in a place like that, more power to them. But one things for sure. I wouldn't be caught dead in a place like that.
 
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
What about taxes and government funding of anything? That would clearly violate the constitu... nevermind.
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If his development is private property than he wouldn't have problem. However, the residents should have to pay taxes. The laws on non-profits doesn't exclude the residents who live there. Nor, I believe property that is used commercially, even if it is owned by a church.
 
Originally posted by: Train


I dont see a problem with it though, if people want to start a new town from scratch, then let them. The people that want to live like that will move there, and those that dont, won't. Everyones happy.
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In Orlando North East corner there is a Lutheran retirement community (Slavia)- but it stays to itself and is mostly deserted -
except for the fossil farmers. (Decendants of the Duda family - Slavik Farmers)
Mormons have their clique in Utah, and they have proved to be quite isolationist in many of their ways.
Mennenites and Amish in the North East also stay to themselves pretty much as well,
except when they're out being absolute party animals.

But then again - none of them try to hold a town or closed community to the Stepford Wives Standards.
 
Since this community will be not be burdened with any unpleasantness, the couple who find that their marriage is falling apart will probably have to sell their home and move. Divorce will be frowned upon, and you won't be able to file papers.
 
The biggest problem he is going to have is if they restrict who is allowed to buy or lease the homes based on religion. There are laws in most states prohibiting that. And if he doesn't do this, he will not have the nirvana he's trying to attain.
 
Originally posted by: techs
Doesn't Monaghan own some sports teams? I can boycott their games.
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He used to own the Detroit Tigers, but he sold it off to the other pizza guy from Detroit, Mike Illich, who owns Little Ceasars. Illich also owns the Red Wings as well as a lot of downtown Detroit real estate.

Monaghan sold off a lot of the material things he had collected before he went on this Christianity kick. He used to own quite a selection of classic automobiles, too.
 
Title VIII of the Civil Rights Act of 1968 (Fair Housing Act), as amended, prohibits discrimination in the sale, rental, and financing of dwellings, and in other housing-related transactions, based on race, color, national origin, religion, sex, familial status (including children under the age of 18 living with parents of legal custodians, pregnant women, and people securing custody of children under the age of 18), and handicap (disability)
 
Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Title VIII of the Civil Rights Act of 1968 (Fair Housing Act), as amended, prohibits discrimination in the sale, rental, and financing of dwellings, and in other housing-related transactions, based on race, color, national origin, religion, sex, familial status (including children under the age of 18 living with parents of legal custodians, pregnant women, and people securing custody of children under the age of 18), and handicap (disability)
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There are exceptions. This will be a case to watch when it hits the courts.

Sec. 807. [42 U.S.C. 3607] Religious organization or private club exemption


(a) Nothing in this subchapter shall prohibit a religious organization, association, or society, or any nonprofit institution or organization operated, supervised or controlled by or in conjunction with a religious organization, association, or society, from limiting the sale, rental or occupancy of dwellings which it owns or operates for other than a commercial purpose to persons of the same religion, or from giving preference to such persons, unless membership in such religion is restricted on account of race, color, or national origin. Nor shall anything in this subchapter prohibit a private club not in fact open to the public, which as an incident to its primary purpose or purposes provides lodgings which it owns or operates for other than a commercial purpose, from limiting the rental or occupancy of such lodgings to its members or from giving preference to its members.

FAIR HOUSING ACT
 
In a way, it wouldn't be so bad to have all the nuts who want to live like that secured in one place.... 😛
 
Who cares? Don't live there if you don't like it. You're free to live how you want, let them live how they want.

Why is everyone in this country such a whiny little bitch?
 
I don't know whether to be amused, or concerned for the physical and mental health of anyone near that place.
 
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
Who cares? Don't live there if you don't like it. You're free to live how you want, let them live how they want.

Why is everyone in this country such a whiny little bitch?
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Gotta love the 'tolerance' of the people around here . . .
 
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Wow, what a jackass. Remind me not to ever order Domino's pizza ever again.
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You just convionced me not to order another Domino's Pizza. I never liked them in the first place though.

Well this is real progress...... Republican style. Are they going to build a wall around it too?
 
Originally posted by: Cerb
I don't know whether to be amused, or concerned for the physical and mental helth of anyone near that place.
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It makes me think of a scene from Like Water For Chocolate. They used to have Church issued sheets with strategically placed slits that would be placed between husband and wife during whoopee . 'Cause you know, whoopeee is for procreation only.


 
Not much religious tolerance of the Worlds largest (and oldest) Christian religion on these boards. I see better tolerance of Islam...

Good for them if they are tired of people bashing them. Good for them if they only want wholesome T.V. for their family. Good for them if following their faith makes them happy.

Me myself .....I'll let them be, while I watch "Family Guy" and drink a beer or six.
 
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