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Ahmedinejad wins in a landslide

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one day they will learn to rotate the power figures and lead the people into a culture of consumption and debt only then will they be truly stable.
 
Originally posted by: Ichigo
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Robor
Iran protester slain after huge pro-reform rally
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front page on HuffPo

Obama to speak at 5pm EST.
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HuffPo's liveblog keeps talking about how the police on the streets might be Lebanese Hezbollah brought in for riot control. Is there any truth to that or any sources on that? I have yet to find anything besides "unconfirmed reports".
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Conflicting reports. So much info coming out is "unconfirmed." Pictures and videos have more merit.
 
Originally posted by: Ichigo
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Robor
Iran protester slain after huge pro-reform rally
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front page on HuffPo

Obama to speak at 5pm EST.
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HuffPo's liveblog keeps talking about how the police on the streets might be Lebanese Hezbollah brought in for riot control. Is there any truth to that or any sources on that? I have yet to find anything besides "unconfirmed reports".
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Arabs inside Iran will stand out. They don't speak Farsi. Majority of the Iranian population speaks Farsi then English as a second language.
The guys on the bikes riding around beating people up are the basij (volunteer force sworn to protect the Islamic Regime against any threat) or the Revolutionary Guard loyal to the regime.

The police are doing their job. Protecting the city. Throw a couple bottles at them and they might get pissed off enough to join in on the beating but for the most part they are just blocking off streets and protecting key buildings. They are keeping their distance.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Arabs inside Iran will stand out. They don't speak Farsi. Majority of the Iranian population speaks Farsi then English as a second language.
The guys on the bikes riding around beating people up are the basij (volunteer force sworn to protect the Islamic Regime against any threat) or the Revolutionary Guard loyal to the regime.

The police are doing their job. Protecting the city. Throw a couple bottles at them and they might get pissed off enough to join in on the beating but for the most part they are just blocking off streets and protecting key buildings. They are keeping their distance.
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Aimster you seem to know a bit, do you mind if I ask what your background is?
 
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: Aimster
Arabs inside Iran will stand out. They don't speak Farsi. Majority of the Iranian population speaks Farsi then English as a second language.
The guys on the bikes riding around beating people up are the basij (volunteer force sworn to protect the Islamic Regime against any threat) or the Revolutionary Guard loyal to the regime.

The police are doing their job. Protecting the city. Throw a couple bottles at them and they might get pissed off enough to join in on the beating but for the most part they are just blocking off streets and protecting key buildings. They are keeping their distance.
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Aimster you seem to know a bit, do you mind if I ask what your background is?
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Parents are Iranian.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Arabs inside Iran will stand out. They don't speak Farsi. Majority of the Iranian population speaks Farsi then English as a second language.
The guys on the bikes riding around beating people up are the basij (volunteer force sworn to protect the Islamic Regime against any threat) or the Revolutionary Guard loyal to the regime.

The police are doing their job. Protecting the city. Throw a couple bottles at them and they might get pissed off enough to join in on the beating but for the most part they are just blocking off streets and protecting key buildings. They are keeping their distance.
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I am seeing reports that the Basij HQ has been set on fire.
 
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Aimster
Arabs inside Iran will stand out. They don't speak Farsi. Majority of the Iranian population speaks Farsi then English as a second language.
The guys on the bikes riding around beating people up are the basij (volunteer force sworn to protect the Islamic Regime against any threat) or the Revolutionary Guard loyal to the regime.

The police are doing their job. Protecting the city. Throw a couple bottles at them and they might get pissed off enough to join in on the beating but for the most part they are just blocking off streets and protecting key buildings. They are keeping their distance.
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I am seeing reports that the Basij HQ has been set on fire.
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http://link.brightcove.com/ser...4595?bctid=26415347001

Video report of shootings and fire.
 
the revolutionary guard is sworn to protect the regime because the regime is their unsuspecting prey. the revolutionary guard has slowly been taking over iran from under the regime.
 
Look, first of all, all of you need to stop imposing American values onto Iran. By saying that Iran holds the same values as America such as "free speech" and "free elections" is completely arrogant. No where in Iranian law does it grantee these freedoms. As Americans we need to respect the laws, culture, and values of Iran.
 
Originally posted by: Patranus
Look, first of all, all of you need to stop imposing American values onto Iran. By saying that Iran holds the same values as America such as "free speech" and "free elections" is completely arrogant. No where in Iranian law does it grantee these freedoms. As Americans we need to respect the laws, culture, and values of Iran.
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what's that got to do with ahmadinejad stealing this election?
 
Originally posted by: Patranus
Look, first of all, all of you need to stop imposing American values onto Iran. By saying that Iran holds the same values as America such as "free speech" and "free elections" is completely arrogant. No where in Iranian law does it grantee these freedoms. As Americans we need to respect the laws, culture, and values of Iran.
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I think you're a little confused - rights like "free speech, free elections, etc" aren't really "America's rights" - they are everyones.
 
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: Patranus
Look, first of all, all of you need to stop imposing American values onto Iran. By saying that Iran holds the same values as America such as "free speech" and "free elections" is completely arrogant. No where in Iranian law does it grantee these freedoms. As Americans we need to respect the laws, culture, and values of Iran.
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what's that got to do with ahmadinejad stealing this election?
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You are using this term "stealing this election" but you are imposing an American view that the elections shouldn't be rigged in the first place.
 
Originally posted by: Patranus
Look, first of all, all of you need to stop imposing American values onto Iran. By saying that Iran holds the same values as America such as "free speech" and "free elections" is completely arrogant. No where in Iranian law does it grantee these freedoms. As Americans we need to respect the laws, culture, and values of Iran.
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What is arrogant is the assumption that free speech and free elections are 'American' values. These are things that all modern nations should strive for IMO. America didn't invent freedom for fuck's sake.
 
Originally posted by: Tab3076
Originally posted by: Patranus
Look, first of all, all of you need to stop imposing American values onto Iran. By saying that Iran holds the same values as America such as "free speech" and "free elections" is completely arrogant. No where in Iranian law does it grantee these freedoms. As Americans we need to respect the laws, culture, and values of Iran.
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I think you're a little confused - rights like "free speech, free elections, etc" aren't really "America's rights" - they are everyones.
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Are they? Nope. You are projecting your morals onto a different country, culture, and people.

I guess it is only bad when Bush and conservatives promote these values around the world.
I guess when Obama goes around the world saying that America shouldn't do this he really means Bush shouldn't have done this but it is ok for me to do it.
 
Originally posted by: Patranus
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: Patranus
Look, first of all, all of you need to stop imposing American values onto Iran. By saying that Iran holds the same values as America such as "free speech" and "free elections" is completely arrogant. No where in Iranian law does it grantee these freedoms. As Americans we need to respect the laws, culture, and values of Iran.
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what's that got to do with ahmadinejad stealing this election?
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You are using this term "stealing this election" but you are imposing an American view that the elections shouldn't be rigged in the first place.
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and so are millions of other iranians...

i'm not sure whether you're just dumb or you're trying to make a dumb joke that doesn't really work... which is it?
 
Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Iran is not and never will be a threat. The elections in Iran mean nothing to the US. Nothing at all. Everyone knows this.
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Instability in nuclear armed nations mean nothing? Their trading partner North Korea can tell you how quickly you can move from nuclear reactors to nuclear weapons.
 
Reminds me of this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T...ian_Islamic_revolution

There is supposed to be a strike tomorrow in Tehran. Now all Iran needs is for the military to fall apart.

Moosavi stands for what the Iranians want. Freedom. He has basically called the Iranian regime a bunch of <^>. Iran's previous reformist President was a coward. He didn't do a damn thing and let them mullahs boss him around. Finally a reformist who has balls. Moosavi played this game well. He respected the regime. He didn't say anything negative about the regime. Once he lost the election he called the regime tyrants. Brilliant. If he had badmouthed them before the election results he would have been arrested.
 
Originally posted by: Patranus
Look, first of all, all of you need to stop imposing American values onto Iran. By saying that Iran holds the same values as America such as "free speech" and "free elections" is completely arrogant. No where in Iranian law does it grantee these freedoms. As Americans we need to respect the laws, culture, and values of Iran.
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Apparently, American values don't include that of being literate.

This quote is going to be fun to bring up later on if you say shit about any other country ever.

Love.
 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Iran is not and never will be a threat. The elections in Iran mean nothing to the US. Nothing at all. Everyone knows this.
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Instability in nuclear armed nations mean nothing? Their trading partner North Korea can tell you how quickly you can move from nuclear reactors to nuclear weapons.
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Burp..
http://www.reuters.com/article.../idUSTRE55A4E720090611


Originally posted by: Ichigo
Originally posted by: Patranus
Look, first of all, all of you need to stop imposing American values onto Iran. By saying that Iran holds the same values as America such as "free speech" and "free elections" is completely arrogant. No where in Iranian law does it grantee these freedoms. As Americans we need to respect the laws, culture, and values of Iran.
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Apparently, American values don't include that of being literate.

This quote is going to be fun to bring up later on if you say shit about any other country ever.

Love.
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I am just doing what President said all good Americans should do.
 
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