Ahh that drug war

modestninja

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Hope and change.

You realize that Obama didn't start the drug war right? He hasn't done much to end or curb some of the worst parts of it, but neither has any president since it started. The best you can say about it is that he hasn't escalated it like Ronald Reagan did.

Unfortunately, I don't see it ending any time soon because any politician coming wanting to reduce mandatory minimum sentences, or decriminalize or even legalize some or all drugs will be committing political suicide. There might be some hope once the Boomers are gone...
 

BoberFett

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You realize that Obama didn't start the drug war right? He hasn't done much to end or curb some of the worst parts of it, but neither has any president since it started. The best you can say about it is that he hasn't escalated it like Ronald Reagan did.

Unfortunately, I don't see it ending any time soon because any politician coming wanting to reduce mandatory minimum sentences, or decriminalize or even legalize some or all drugs will be committing political suicide. There might be some hope once the Boomers are gone...

Which president promised hope and change?
 

Phokus

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Nov 20, 1999
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Which president promised hope and change?

The one that gave us universal health insurance, equal pay for women, withdrew the troops from iraq, killed osama bin laden, has begun a drawdown in afghanistan, saved the auto industry, repealed don't ask/don't tell, reversed bush's torture policies, boosted fuel efficiency standards, prevented the economy from collapsing completely, passed credit card reform, improved food safety, reduced the absolute racist disparity in sentencing between crack and cocaine, cut Reagan's wasteful missle defense spending, cut off predatory for profit colleges from exploiting students/government, expanded healthcare for children, expanded stem cell research.

Need i go on?
 

Pr0d1gy

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The one that gave us universal health insurance, equal pay for women, withdrew the troops from iraq, killed osama bin laden, has begun a drawdown in afghanistan, saved the auto industry, repealed don't ask/don't tell, reversed bush's torture policies, boosted fuel efficiency standards, prevented the economy from collapsing completely, passed credit card reform, improved food safety, reduced the absolute racist disparity in sentencing between crack and cocaine, cut Reagan's wasteful missle defense spending, cut off predatory for profit colleges from exploiting students/government, expanded healthcare for children, expanded stem cell research.

Need i go on?

That is pretty impressive. I'm particularly glad he got stem cell research going again. I was afraid the religious nuts had killed it. That could literally be the future of medicine.
 

BoberFett

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Which president was ignored when he ordered his subordinates to not prosecute dispensaries? Oh yeah, the black guy.....of course.

/facepalm

You keep saying this. How exactly does an executive branch department ignore the president?
 

BoberFett

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I don't really have time right now to address Phokus' usual tripe, so I'll reserve this space for later.
 

Phokus

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Actually BoberFett, how long were you on unemployment? Obama extending unemployment for you might be another hope and changey thing he did for you.
 

Phokus

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God i love making conservatives look like fucking morons.

Oh, i'm sorry, i mean 'libertarian'.
 

Pr0d1gy

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/facepalm

You keep saying this. How exactly does an executive branch department ignore the president?

They do the exact opposite of what his memo asked them to do. He asks them not to raid and prosecute taxpaying, employing dispensaries; then they run off and set a record for raids and legal actions against dispensaries.

How do you not know this and then post in a drug war thread?


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BoberFett

Lifer
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They do the exact opposite of what his memo asked them to do. He asks them not to raid and prosecute taxpaying, employing dispensaries; then they run off and set a record for raids and legal actions against dispensaries.

How do you not know this and then post in a drug war thread?


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You are so gullible. I'll just claim that Bush asked the military not to invade Iraq and they ignored him. :rolleyes:
 

kage69

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Jul 17, 2003
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You are so gullible. I'll just claim that Bush asked the military not to invade Iraq and they ignored him. :rolleyes:

Then you might be really lazy, because Bush's "Fuck Saddam. We're taking him out." of 2002 makes that kind of a dumb angle to try.

Are there any examples of Obama doing similar with regard to pot dispensaries? If there are I'd love to see them.
 

Genx87

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Apr 8, 2002
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They do the exact opposite of what his memo asked them to do. He asks them not to raid and prosecute taxpaying, employing dispensaries; then they run off and set a record for raids and legal actions against dispensaries.

How do you not know this and then post in a drug war thread?


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Right, the head of the executive branch cant control the minions below him is your spin? Not sure if that is better than him simply disregarding his own promise.
 

Phokus

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Nov 20, 1999
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Me? Angry? You're the fool who just can't get over the fact that I took your money via government largesse. You're so pissed you have to tell everyone about it.

Oh, is my sig the reason you're angry? Yeah, it's staying up forever. Deal with it.
 

Phokus

Lifer
Nov 20, 1999
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You're obsessed with me. That's just creepy, you freak.

Really? Honestly, i can't remember the last time i replied to you on anything. You're just mad that whenever i do though, i bitch slap you into orbit.