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AHA! Finally installed. (Was: OK, Mac 7600 is networked, but can't install OGR software.)

Eug

Eug

Lifer
Call me stoopid, but I've got the dnet OGR .sit file and it's just .sitting on my OS 8 desktop. I unstuff it and it seems to go into thin air. How do I install it? It seems like it's unzip... errr.. unstuffing somewhere but I dunno where. (Actually, StuffIt Expander seemed to unstuff it as it was downloading, but again, I dunno where.)

By the way, how come you guys didn't tell me it was so easy to network a Mac? 😉 I just plugged it in, set it to Ethernet DHCP, and suddenly I was on the net. 🙂 Mmmm... (The IT guys said they wouldn't network it, but they said they didn't care if I networked it. 😎 )

Right now it's just a 7600, but the next asslamination will be an 8600.

 
Eug, by OGR software I assume you mean the DNet client right? If so, use finder and search for dnetc this should take you to wherever it's located, then it's just matter of starting it, configuring it and let it run!

Hope this helps 😉

With love and respect your fellow TA member

Two-Face
 
First, what version of Stuffit Expander are you using? You need 5.5 to extract the dnet files. It will place them in "dnet-macos-ppc Folder". From there, make an alias (shortcut) and place the alias in your "startup" folder. To run the client hidden, use the "faceless" program, and then run the scripts to fetch, flush, check, etc.

And I seem to remeber mentioning that networking with the Macs was easy 🙂 One of their few strong points 😉 Much easier to network than a PC...no rebooting when you change IP.
 
Macs love TCP/IP networks for things like Internet, but they can be more trouble (or at least expense) when you want to see PC file systems or have PC's see the Mac's file system.

Stick to the normal IP protocols like HTTP, FTP and Telnet, and it is a piece of cake. I'm assuming your Mac got an IP address from your normal LAN DHCP Server?
 
JonB,
You're definitely right about the file sharing across platforms, but as far as internet sharing, or dnet pproxies it is pretty simple. At home I only have 1 Mac (that they gave me at work) which shares my internet connection just fine, even when I was using Windows ICS (now a SMC Barricade but still crappy dial-up) and for dumping to my pproxy for dnet. At home I'd love to be able to file share, maybe its time to get the boss to buy me for a copy of Dave. At work we dont want file sharing enabled for network security, just on the NT based servers.

I just couldnt get over how amazing it was not having to reboot when you change an IP or enable another protocol like in Windows. Its also one of my favorite features of Win2000 BTW.
 
Thanks.

Complicated...

Brought in my router and networked everything up. (Yep, JonB... DHCP. Heheh GSmith - didn't quite believe ya the first time. 😉)
Upgraded the Mac 7600/120 to OS 8.1.
Downloaded Internet Explorer 5.0 Mac (very cool by the way).
Downloaded StuffIt Expander 6.0
Downloaded OGR client. (Yep, the OGR client WAS downloading into nowhere before)

Finally it's up and running!

Unfortunately, the pseudo-multitasking is absolute crap. While OGR on the Mac is a tad faster (@ 0.92 Mnodes/s) than the Pentium 200 I have in the next room, working on the Pentium 200 (NT 4) is MUCH better compared to the Mac with OGR running in the background. Essentially this Mac is completely unusable with OGR installed... which is fine. 😛

Hmmm... I'm going to have to rethink this Mac PowerBook purchase, unless they can impress me more with the OS X schtuff. I wonder how bad a G3 400 (PowerBook) or G3 466 (iBook) is going to run with OS 9 and OGR. There is an OS X client though. Anybody run that?
 
With OS9 on a reasonably fast G3, you probably wont notice that dnet is running. Dnet client will take a MAJOR performance hit though with even a word processor open. About half from my experience, but under 9 other software doesnt seem to take as big a hit as under 8. OS9 also gave me roughly a 15-20% RC5 rate increase over OS8.6 on the 2 Macs I currently have it on. Both are G3 233, with more to come at some point in the future 🙂 I just need time at work 🙁. My position was vacant for over 2 months of the school year before I got hired, so there is one hell of a thick pile of work orders, plus networking 6 elementary schools and just found out today I have 4 more labs going in at the high school in about the next month. Add the fact that the closest thing to a Mac I had any experience with was my apple IIGS, and we're talking about a pretty steep learning curve 🙂

Anyone know if there is a dnet client for the AppleII's? 🙂 They ought to do an OGR unit in what a year and a half maybe? 🙂 I have access to hundreds of them.

And of those 4 labs, 2 are iMacs, the other 2 are supposed to be new Gateways. Hmm, gonna have to find something to use as a pproxy, maybe I can get dnet on the standard build... 🙂 Dont know what kind of processors yet, they weren't ordered through the Media & Tech Dept.
 


<< Anyone know if there is a dnet client for the AppleII's? They ought to do an OGR unit in what a year and a half maybe? >>

Heheh. I have a II+ clone sitting in my mother's closet... 1 MHz 6502 chip I believe. Let's say it's 50% as efficient as a G3. So, with that guestimate essentially an Apple II would take 3 years to do what a G3 500 does in one day. 🙂

I can't believe a big strike against the Mac for me was the fact it doesn't run with OGR that well. 😛
 
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