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Goosemaster

Lifer
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:cool:

This is freakin' sweet. I used to use ANapod, which is a GREAT piece of software, but transcoding inclusion into is just awesome:D

It's such a SIMPLE and yet necessary feature.
 

Goosemaster

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4th option down


I had NOT seen it with my 40GB 4g ipod. Unfortunately I can't try it right now.

I wish I could transcode to higher bitrates but no luck. The best part is that it does it ONLY for the transfer so you don't alter your lossless files:D
 

Goosemaster

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All i know is that I had bought 3 new Café Tacuba CDs and I thought that they wouldn't fit or that I would have to use anapod. That, and I am not sure if Anapod supports Apple lossless:(

edit: and now I do not have that problem. :D

1.26GB of lossless ----> 174MB :D



 

ViRGE

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This must be a new feature with respect to the Windows version of iTunes, or newer iPods, or something like that. My PB with iTunes 4.9 and a 5GB 1st Gen is not seeing any option like that.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
This must be a new feature with respect to the Windows version of iTunes, or newer iPods, or something like that. My PB with iTunes 4.9 and a 5GB 1st Gen is not seeing any option like that.

I think it is just a shuffle thing. I wish they would enable for everything with additional bitrate options.
 

revnja

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
This must be a new feature with respect to the Windows version of iTunes, or newer iPods, or something like that. My PB with iTunes 4.9 and a 5GB 1st Gen is not seeing any option like that.

I don't see it either with my 20GB 4th gen iPod. Like goose said, must be a shuffle-only deal. Does remind me of something else though, does the Windows version of iTunes have the option to display dupes like the Mac version does? I was on a Windows box the other day and couldn't find that option anywhere. Maybe I'm getting dumber in my old age.
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: adambooth
Originally posted by: ViRGE
This must be a new feature with respect to the Windows version of iTunes, or newer iPods, or something like that. My PB with iTunes 4.9 and a 5GB 1st Gen is not seeing any option like that.

I don't see it either with my 20GB 4th gen iPod. Like goose said, must be a shuffle-only deal. Does remind me of something else though, does the Windows version of iTunes have the option to display dupes like the Mac version does? I was on a Windows box the other day and couldn't find that option anywhere. Maybe I'm getting dumber in my old age.

It does...Here you go
 

imported_ArtVandalay

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I don't quite understand... Apple offers the ability to encode music, something which has been available since before many ATers were born, and it's the best thing since sliced bread? :confused:
 

wfbberzerker

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Originally posted by: kermalou
can someone translate this mumbo jumbo to english

what it means is that while you have a high quality mp3 on your hard drive, the copy it puts on your ipod will be a lower quality to save space, since you probably don't need an uber-high quality mp3 on an ipod.
 

imported_ArtVandalay

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Originally posted by: wfbberzerker
Originally posted by: kermalou
can someone translate this mumbo jumbo to english

what it means is that while you have a high quality mp3 on your hard drive, the copy it puts on your ipod will be a lower quality to save space, since you probably don't need an uber-high quality mp3 on an ipod.

Thanks... and lol
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: kermalou
can someone translate this mumbo jumbo to english


Basically I save my files into a lossless audio format. THis basically acts as ZIP compression, whereby files are compressed using complicated algorithms, but none of the actual data is lost. Using common lossy codecs such as mp3, some data, which cannot be recovered, is actually removed during compression.


Anyways, lossless is great on PCs because as long as you have enough space, you can save cds to your HD at 100% quality while only taking about 50% of the sapce that the original wav files would take up.


The key is that the itunes software now allows you to save your music in high-quality lossless, and also allows you to compress it in a lossy fashion as it puts it on the device.

basically this means you can have your high-quality masters on the pc, but have small and managable files on your player.

:)
 

imported_ArtVandalay

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: kermalou
can someone translate this mumbo jumbo to english


Basically I save my files into a lossless audio format. THis basically acts as ZIP compression, whereby files are compressed using complicated algorithms, but none of the actual data is lost. Using common lossy codecs such as mp3, some data, which cannot be recovered, is actually removed during compression.


Anyways, lossless is great on PCs because as long as you have enough space, you can save cds to your HD at 100% quality while only taking about 50% of the sapce that the original wav files would take up.


The key is that the itunes software now allows you to save your music in high-quality lossless, and also allows you to compress it in a lossy fashion as it puts it on the device.

basically this means you can have your high-quality masters on the pc, but have small and managable files on your player.

:)

And maybe 1% of people on this board couldn't do all that (years ago, btw) without Apple holding their hand through it. I still fail to see why anyone cares. If any other company toted something done decades earlier by others as innovation, they'd rightfully be the laughingstock of the tech world... how does Apple get away with it? :confused: If your argument is that it makes a difference for the illiterati who make up 99% of the PC using demographic, keep in mind they all either buy 128bit music or rip to 128bit in the first place, so it doesn't benefit them at all.
 

revnja

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People care, because this is much easier and is integrated right into the audio player. Sure, I could do it myself but with iTunes it'll just take a couple clicks is all. No fuss.
 

loic2003

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Originally posted by: ArtVandalay

And maybe 1% of people on this board couldn't do all that (years ago, btw) without Apple holding their hand through it. I still fail to see why anyone cares. If any other company toted something done decades earlier by others as innovation, they'd rightfully be the laughingstock of the tech world... how does Apple get away with it? :confused: If your argument is that it makes a difference for the illiterati who make up 99% of the PC using demographic, keep in mind they all either buy 128bit music or rip to 128bit in the first place, so it doesn't benefit them at all.


What about people that use high encoding rates/lossless for their music on their PC but only want 128 on their shuffle? They would have had to have two copies of each piece of music they own. Now they just check this box and it's sorted. That's what this is for. Sure you could manually do it and waste loads of your time, but some people consider their time important. Dull, repetitive jobs should be done by computers, that's what they're for.

It's not apple 'holding their hand', it's apple thinking about what takes time and making the computer do the work.

Could you actually give an example of higher-encoded music files being re-encoded on the fly to a DAP whilst it is being transferred 'decades ago' from within the aplication used to organise the music collection, or where you spouting BS? I'm assuming you can't, and I know of no other application that does this, therefore since innovation is defined as:[/i]

" 1. The act of introducing something new.
2. Something newly introduced."[/i]

I'm going agree with the previous poster that this is indeed an innovation. Correct me if I'm wrong, though... I haven't used every piece of software out there.
 

0roo0roo

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good feature for lossless. copying lossless to a portable player is a waste of space yes. and of battery life...
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
I don't quite understand... Apple offers the ability to encode music, something which has been available since before many ATers were born, and it's the best thing since sliced bread? :confused:
You underestimate the self-marketting capacity of Apple's sleeper agents (most I-pod owners), dude :).

<- uses FB2K to stick MP3s, from FLACs, directly into his DAP.
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: kermalou
can someone translate this mumbo jumbo to english


Basically I save my files into a lossless audio format. THis basically acts as ZIP compression, whereby files are compressed using complicated algorithms, but none of the actual data is lost. Using common lossy codecs such as mp3, some data, which cannot be recovered, is actually removed during compression.


Anyways, lossless is great on PCs because as long as you have enough space, you can save cds to your HD at 100% quality while only taking about 50% of the sapce that the original wav files would take up.


The key is that the itunes software now allows you to save your music in high-quality lossless, and also allows you to compress it in a lossy fashion as it puts it on the device.

basically this means you can have your high-quality masters on the pc, but have small and managable files on your player.

:)

And maybe 1% of people on this board couldn't do all that (years ago, btw) without Apple holding their hand through it. I still fail to see why anyone cares. If any other company toted something done decades earlier by others as innovation, they'd rightfully be the laughingstock of the tech world... how does Apple get away with it? :confused: If your argument is that it makes a difference for the illiterati who make up 99% of the PC using demographic, keep in mind they all either buy 128bit music or rip to 128bit in the first place, so it doesn't benefit them at all.

wholey grudge batmann!

Just chill dude. I am just saying that a major public program has included transcoding. It's not an innovation. If anything, red Chair software was first, if not one of the first. That said, I am just REALY REALLY happy that a nice program like itunes is now offering it.
 

tw1164

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Can't WMP do this too? You just have to set up the quality for you device in advance settings.
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: tw1164
Can't WMP do this too? You just have to set up the quality for you device in advance settings.

Perhaps.

Once again, it is not an innovation for this in itunes. It's jsut something that was long overdue
 

loic2003

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Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Wow, looks like I ruffled a lot of feathers with what I thought was a good question... why so defensive? :confused:

No-one's being defensive, they're just pointing out to you that what you thought was a "good question" was infact a big steaming pile of poop. Read previous comments to see why.
 

imported_ArtVandalay

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Originally posted by: loic2003
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Wow, looks like I ruffled a lot of feathers with what I thought was a good question... why so defensive? :confused:

No-one's being defensive, they're just pointing out to you that what you thought was a "good question" was infact a big steaming pile of poop. Read previous comments to see why.

Sorry, but I don't feel the previous comments satisfactorily answer my question. Rather, they remind me of a cult going after an outsider. The anger in your reply just now is a good example. Companies are constantly innovating - real stuff, not copycatting. Mention 99% of it in OT though, and Nik will tear you a new one.