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[BDawg]

I'm sure there'd be some literature burnings if they hadn't been so unfairly tied to the Nazis...

Bill Nevins, a New Mexico high school teacher and personal friend, was fired last year and classes in poetry and the poetry club at Rio Rancho High School were permanently terminated. It had nothing to do with obscenity, but it had everything to do with extremist politics.

The "Slam Team" was a group of teenage poets who asked Nevins to serve as faculty adviser to their club. The teens, mostly shy youngsters, were taught to read their poetry aloud and before audiences. Rio Rancho High School gave the Slam Team access to the school's closed-circuit television once a week and the poets thrived.

In March 2003, a teenage girl named Courtney presented one of her poems before an audience at Barnes & Noble bookstore in Albuquerque, then read the poem live on the school's closed-circuit television channel.

A school military liaison and the high school principal accused the girl of being "un-American" because she criticized the war in Iraq and the Bush administration's failure to give substance to its "No child left behind" education policy.

The girl's mother, also a teacher, was ordered by the principal to destroy the child's poetry. The mother refused and may lose her job.

Edit: Additional Link

 

[dmcowen674]

More from the article:

While students are denied poetry readings, poetry clubs and classes in poetry, Nevins works elsewhere and writes his own poetry.

Writers and editors who have spent years translating essays, films, poems, scientific articles and books by Iranian, North Korean and Sudanese authors have been warned not to do so by the U.S. Treasury Department under penalty of fine and imprisonment. Publishers and film producers are not allowed to edit works authored by writers in those nations. The Bush administration contends doing so has the effect of trading with the enemy, despite a 1988 law that exempts published materials from sanction under trade rules.

Robert Bovenschulte, president of the American Chemical Society, is challenging the rule interpretation by violating it to edit into English several scientific papers from Iran.

Are book burnings next?

 

[BDawg]

Don't worry Dave. I checked, it's not from Georgia.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: BDawg
Don't worry Dave. I checked, it's not from Georgia.

I never did finish my book. Probably just as well as it would probably be banned in the U.S. immediately now anyway.

 

[conjur]

Great...fascism in the schools.

God Bless America, and no one else!

 

[Ldir]

If Dubya does not read, no one else needs to read. If Dubya does not think, no one else needs to think. I am sure his apologists will jump in to explain why this is good.

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Bush Apologists of America (BAA): using the Constitution as toilet paper since 1980

 

[sandorski]

wtf is a "school military liason"? And why does it remind me of the Political Officer in Red October?

 

[JackStorm]

This is disturbing...books/art banned because they criticized the current administration...I truly hope for the sake of the country that there wont be another Bush term...

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

This is outrageously stupid, though I can't see any actual nexus to the Bush administration. I hope the teacher gets his job back and the principal is out on his ass.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: sandorski
wtf is a "school military liason"? And why does it remind me of the Political Officer in Red October?

reminded me of the same thing

 

[DealMonkey]

Now if we can just get some "team Bush" minders to follow these teachers around 24/7 and ensure they don't saying anything "radical" or demeaning to the Bush administration, we'll be halfway to hell.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Also from that site...why didn't you post this also? Hmm?

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.splc.org/newsflash.asp?id=806&amp;year=">A student who said he was punished for trying to post a flier promoting a conservative author's campus speech settled a First Amendment lawsuit on May 6 against California Polytechnic State University.
</a>

Student who was not allowed to distribute anti-abortion fliers sues Fla. school

OMG...teh liberal conspiracy!!

Woot...this is fun posting partisan attacks. Yeeha!

 

[Crimson]

I think its already been pretty clearly established there is no freedom of speech as school... Besides, you guys are only outraged when its liberal speech thats not protected. If these clubs were reading the 10 commandments you would be demanding these teachers be fired.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Also from that site...why didn't you post this also? Hmm?

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.splc.org/newsflash.asp?id=806&amp;year=">A student who said he was punished for trying to post a flier promoting a conservative author's campus speech settled a First Amendment lawsuit on May 6 against California Polytechnic State University.
</a>

Student who was not allowed to distribute anti-abortion fliers sues Fla. school

OMG...teh liberal conspiracy!!

Woot...this is fun posting partisan attacks. Yeeha!

Like these?

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=52&amp;threadid=1203435&amp;arctab=arc&amp;highlight_key=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=52&amp;threadid=1126772&amp;arctab=arc&amp;highlight_key=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=52&amp;threadid=1100314&amp;arctab=arc&amp;highlight_key=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=52&amp;threadid=1074366&amp;arctab=arc&amp;highlight_key=y

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: conjur

Like these?

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=52&amp;threadid=1203435&amp;arctab=arc&amp;highlight_key=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=52&amp;threadid=1126772&amp;arctab=arc&amp;highlight_key=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=52&amp;threadid=1100314&amp;arctab=arc&amp;highlight_key=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=52&amp;threadid=1074366&amp;arctab=arc&amp;highlight_key=y

That's all you could find in, what, over six months? Hell, you've had more than that this week. I engage in it, but I haven't made a career of it like others. In any case, as I said, fun...and productive.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Crimson
I think its already been pretty clearly established there is no freedom of speech as school... Besides, you guys are only outraged when its liberal speech thats not protected. If these clubs were reading the 10 commandments you would be demanding these teachers be fired.

Even if the clubs were open to anybody who wanted to join and anything could be said about the ten commandments or any other sustem of ethics? You really think so? I don't.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Crimson
I think its already been pretty clearly established there is no freedom of speech as school... Besides, you guys are only outraged when its liberal speech thats not protected. If these clubs were reading the 10 commandments you would be demanding these teachers be fired.

Even if the clubs were open to anybody who wanted to join and anything could be said about the ten commandments or any other sustem of ethics? You really think so? I don't.

I do.

You were all for the removal of the Ten Commandments monument from the public courthouse...you weren't as you're implying, FOR the addition of several other religeous icons from other religeons.

 

[SuperTool]

Is Fox News covering this story?
If it was liberal principle restraining rightwing speach, they would be all over him :roll:

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Crimson
I think its already been pretty clearly established there is no freedom of speech as school... Besides, you guys are only outraged when its liberal speech thats not protected. If these clubs were reading the 10 commandments you would be demanding these teachers be fired.

Even if the clubs were open to anybody who wanted to join and anything could be said about the ten commandments or any other sustem of ethics? You really think so? I don't.

I do.

You were all for the removal of the Ten Commandments monument from the public courthouse...you weren't as you're implying, FOR the addition of several other religeous icons from other religeons.

Because any attempt to do so would have been met with extreme opposition and bleating about the "rampant multiculturalism destroying America." I would have been just as adamant about the statue removal had it been of Buddha or any other religion, because of the manner and location in which it was placed.

 

[DealMonkey]

Yeah, separation of church and state you monkeys. Live it, learn it.

And Crimson, is there ONE single thread where you don't show up and bash libs even though they have nothing to do with the topic at-hand? Of course not. You're like an idiot-savant Rush Limbaugh or something...

 

[TheGameIs21]

There is a very large difference between a true news story and an "editorial". I'd like to find an actual news source on this and try to get all three sides.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yeah, separation of church and state you monkeys. Live it, learn it.

And Crimson, is there ONE single thread where you don't show up and bash libs even though they have nothing to do with the topic at-hand? Of course not. You're like an idiot-savant Rush Limbaugh or something...

yeah I don't know what's up with Crimson, I don't think he ever heard about that whole separation of church and state concept.

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yeah, separation of church and state you monkeys. Live it, learn it.

And Crimson, is there ONE single thread where you don't show up and bash libs even though they have nothing to do with the topic at-hand? Of course not. You're like an idiot-savant Rush Limbaugh or something...

Is there one single thread where you don't show up and bash Bush?

I must have missed the part where it said Bush was the one who showed up at the school and demanded they ban the club.

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: Shanti
Is there one single thread where you don't show up and bash Bush?

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Want more?

 

[Crimson]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yeah, separation of church and state you monkeys. Live it, learn it.

And Crimson, is there ONE single thread where you don't show up and bash libs even though they have nothing to do with the topic at-hand? Of course not. You're like an idiot-savant Rush Limbaugh or something...

yeah I don't know what's up with Crimson, I don't think he ever heard about that whole separation of church and state concept.

Please quote from the constitution where it discusses separate of church and state.