agp problems...making me mad (EDIT - solved/done)

[secretanchitman]

my stupid leadtek 6600GT AGP is STILL under rma after more than a month (i hate leadtek, im never dealing with them again btw), so i was forced to use an old card. unfortunately, the only card i have is a voodoo3 16MB pci card. i thought, well, its better than nothing. well, its good so far, but it lags everytime i go to a webpage. i asked my friends if they had any spare cards, and i got a TNT2 64MB, geforce2 MX400 64MB, and a geforce3 64MB.

here is where the problem starts.

all 3 of those cards (all 3 in agp) show me fuzzy text in windows, blurriness, and constant flickering. i dont know exactly what the problem is. ive ran driver cleaner multiple times, ive checked the agp slot for dust, cleaned it out, ive tried the cards in different computers. they work TOTALLY fine. its just my computer that has the problem. im guessing its the agp slot thats gone bad, but when the 6600GT was in it, it was working just fine, and all of the other previous agp cards i had in there too.

help me AT!


cliffs:
-6600GT AGP still under rma (leadtek is stupid as hell)
-used an old voodoo3 16MB pci card which works just fine, but is very slow in webpages and its pissing me off
-ran driver cleaner to uninstall drivers fully before putting in agp cards
-tried 3 agp cards, blurriness, fuzziness, constant flickering occurs no matter what even in safe mode
-3 cards work fine in other computers
-cleaned agp slot, still no luck
-WTF do i do?

edit: im done with these problems. ordered an amd opteron 165, asus a8n32-sli deluxe, and an 8800GTS 320MB.

 

[sieistganzfett]

set the resolution to 800x600 @ 60Hz, or 1024x768 @ 60Hz and see if that fixes it. if it is already set at a low resolution like 8x6 at 60Hz, see if its like this in safe mode.

 

[secretanchitman]

Originally posted by: sieistganzfett
set the resolution to 800x600 @ 60Hz, or 1024x768 @ 60Hz and see if that fixes it. if it is already set at a low resolution like 8x6 at 60Hz, see if its like this in safe mode.

i did. happens even in safe mode.

ugh, im so pissed. i just want to trash this computer and upgrade to core 2 duo or an athlon64 X2 with pci-e, and NOT get a leadtek card.

edit: took a video with my phone and it should be up on youtube anytime now. ill post a link when it comes up.

 

[sieistganzfett]

well you have an excuse if your dying to spend the money for a core2... but really though, i only seen this occur when the refresh rate or resolution was out of wack. i remember CRTs doing it when a fan was blowing at them or loud music near it. by chance, does the blurriness, fuzziness, constant flickering occur even when your just sitting at the bios screen too for the AGP cards? what about using a different monitor with any of those cards on this motherboard? after you tried 3 agp cards, did you put the PCI card back in again, and do the problems stop once you use PCI again? only other things i can think of are to reset the CMOS and have everything at it's defaults when you try an AGP card.

 

[secretanchitman]

Originally posted by: sieistganzfett
well you have an excuse if your dying to spend the money for a core2... but really though, i only seen this occur when the refresh rate or resolution was out of wack. i remember CRTs doing it when a fan was blowing at them or loud music near it. by chance, does the blurriness, fuzziness, constant flickering occur even when your just sitting at the bios screen too for the AGP cards? what about using a different monitor with any of those cards on this motherboard? after you tried 3 agp cards, did you put the PCI card back in again, and do the problems stop once you use PCI again? only other things i can think of are to reset the CMOS and have everything at it's defaults when you try an AGP card.

video

well it usually defaults to 800x600 (lowest winxp can go to and my monitor too...2 year old 17" lcd on vga). nope, only happens when it goes into windows and during bootup (safe mode included). didnt try using another monitor yet, but thats out of the question cause i dont have another monitor...yes, after i took out the 3 agp cards, the PCI still works just fine and no problems happen.

my cmos clears everytime i unplug the power to the computer...long story, but yes its cleared and i left it at stock (im always overclocked) and everything defaulted (except for changing it to PCI/AGP and AGP/PCI video order).

i dunno what to do now. whenever my 6600GT AGP comes back, and if that doesnt work/the same problems happen again, im for sure getting another computer.

 

[Captante]

Sounds like you have a problem with either your motherboard or moniter ... if you have an old PCI video card laying around I'd give that a try to see if the symptoms recur, if they do then its a good bet the moniter is the issue & if not its most likely somthing on the motherboard related to AGP.

 

[secretanchitman]

Originally posted by: Captante
Sounds like you have a problem with either your motherboard or moniter ... if you have an old PCI video card laying around I'd give that a try to see if the symptoms recur, if they do then its a good bet the moniter is the issue & if not its most likely somthing on the motherboard related to AGP.

the video card im using right now is pci - a voodoo3 3000 16MB.

its definitely mobo agp related.

 

[Gstanfor]

Well, if reininstalling your motherboards AGP GART driver doesn't solve the problem about the only recourse you have is to replace the motherboard.

You haven't fiddled with AGP clock rates or driving values in he BIOS have you? (Don't if you haven't).

 

[secretanchitman]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Well, if reininstalling your motherboards AGP GART driver doesn't solve the problem about the only recourse you have is to replace the motherboard.

You haven't fiddled with AGP clock rates or driving values in he BIOS have you? (Don't if you haven't).

i usually have it fixed at 66.66/33.33.

im looking into a cheap upgrade...$550 for an opteron 165, asus a8n32-sli mobo, and an evga 7950GT. gonna reuse everything else.

 

[sieistganzfett]

your cmos clears itself every time you unplug it too? i can only guess you replaced the battery and had that still happen too. i think you tried enough to just say it's the mobo. if you want you can reload windows on another Hard drive, and start off fresh with a driver for whatever AGP card you use, or boot off of the ultimate boot cd- windows version of it since it's like bart pe- its basically windows xp on a cd, and if that has the problem too or the reinstall of xp it just adds more proof its the mobo.

 

[SolMiester]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Well, if reininstalling your motherboards AGP GART driver doesn't solve the problem about the only recourse you have is to replace the motherboard.

You haven't fiddled with AGP clock rates or driving values in he BIOS have you? (Don't if you haven't).

i usually have it fixed at 66.66/33.33.

im looking into a cheap upgrade...$550 for an opteron 165, asus a8n32-sli mobo, and an evga 7950GT. gonna reuse everything else.

I think he means the aperture size!?

 

[secretanchitman]

Originally posted by: SolMiester

Originally posted by: secretanchitman

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Well, if reininstalling your motherboards AGP GART driver doesn't solve the problem about the only recourse you have is to replace the motherboard.

You haven't fiddled with AGP clock rates or driving values in he BIOS have you? (Don't if you haven't).

i usually have it fixed at 66.66/33.33.

im looking into a cheap upgrade...$550 for an opteron 165, asus a8n32-sli mobo, and an evga 7950GT. gonna reuse everything else.

I think he means the aperture size!?

nope, havent fiddled with that stuff. im done with this stupid mobo anyway.

btw, ordered an opteron 165, 8800GTS 320MB, and an asus a8n32-sli mobo for 600. definitely should be a MUCH faster system than my intel p4 2.4C @ @2.95Ghz, asus p4p800, and a 6600GT.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
nope, havent fiddled with that stuff. im done with this stupid mobo anyway.

btw, ordered an opteron 165, 8800GTS 320MB, and an asus a8n32-sli mobo for 600. definitely should be a MUCH faster system than my intel p4 2.4C @ @2.95Ghz, asus p4p800, and a 6600GT.

i think you'll see some difference

good job!

that's one way to fix it

is yous PS up to it?

and i have a 'feeling' you're gonna want a larger LCD

 

[secretanchitman]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
nope, havent fiddled with that stuff. im done with this stupid mobo anyway.

btw, ordered an opteron 165, 8800GTS 320MB, and an asus a8n32-sli mobo for 600. definitely should be a MUCH faster system than my intel p4 2.4C @ @2.95Ghz, asus p4p800, and a 6600GT.

i think you'll see some difference

good job!

that's one way to fix it

is yous PS up to it?

and i have a 'feeling' you're gonna want a larger LCD

haha i hope the difference is "night and day".

my psu is 500W, should be fine. handled my p4 all the way up to 3.6Ghz.

when i get more money around the summer, ill upgrade to a 24". i wont be playing directx10 games, but games like nfs carbon, ut2k4, max payne 2, etc so i wont need to upgrade to a 640MB GTS or a GTX. i do have an sli mobo so i could potentially add another 320MB.

 

[Captante]

Nice!

The new system should be easily twice as fast in most games & noticably faster in day to day usage as well... good luck with it.

 

[sieistganzfett]

the geforce 8800 series requires at least 30A on the 12v rail, its the same requirement as the radeon x1950. make sure your psu will handle it. sidenote, i am not fond of the multi rail psu since i dont think they really truely meet the requirement since its typically 18A per 12v rail with a combined max of something lower than one would hope for...

 

[secretanchitman]

Originally posted by: sieistganzfett
the geforce 8800 series requires at least 30A on the 12v rail, its the same requirement as the radeon x1950. make sure your psu will handle it. sidenote, i am not fond of the multi rail psu since i dont think they really truely meet the requirement since its typically 18A per 12v rail with a combined max of something lower than one would hope for...

i think ill be fine. my friends have gotten away with 430W and 450W cheapo (apevia/aspire, etc) and they are powering socket 754/939 with multiple things in it. friend also has a socket 939 system, but he's running a 300W psu in a shuttle.