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Cook1

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Stop being lazy. Get a better job. ;)
Lazy? I go to school full time and work full time. It's just with $150/mo rent, $175 for car and insurance, $280/mo for gas and oil changes, and $400/mo for school, I'm broke.

It'll all be worth it when I make $18K/yr as a college professor/researcher. ;)

WTF? $150/month rent?! I would have a fleet of powermacs if I only paid that.

haha... no joke. I pay $475/month here in Corvallis, OR, and I don't think that this is even the most expensive place to live either.

Where the hell do you stay that's $150 a month?? I to go to school and work full time and your bills are about 1/3 of what I have. Lazy damn kids!
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Cook1
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I think he wants to give it to me, the Emperor of ATOT.

Don't you already have a Mac? He needs to send one to me. His article made me want one.

I've got 2. I want a powermac. :p

Well, guess we can't hold that against ya too much now.

Why would you? I own: 2 Macs (iBook, powerbook), 4 SUN machines (ss10, ss20, ultra 1e, ultra 10), and atleast 4 running x86 based PCs. ;)
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Stop being lazy. Get a better job. ;)
Lazy? I go to school full time and work full time. It's just with $150/mo rent, $175 for car and insurance, $280/mo for gas and oil changes, and $400/mo for school, I'm broke.

It'll all be worth it when I make $18K/yr as a college professor/researcher. ;)

WTF? $150/month rent?! I would have a fleet of powermacs if I only paid that.

haha... no joke. I pay $475/month here in Corvallis, OR, and I don't think that this is even the most expensive place to live either.

I'd kill to pay $475/month!
 

Cook1

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Been sleepin n0c? Not many fiesty comebacks, or are you just having an off night?
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Cook1
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Cook1
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Cook1
Been sleepin n0c? Not many fiesty comebacks, or are you just having an off night?

Distracted.

I really don't think I wanna know.

It's Friday.

Isn't it Sat?

Not when you work Tuesday-Saturday nights. Tonight is Friday. :)
 

manly

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Reading the article now; I thought the introduction was weak.

And where he knocks Mac application installation is completely wrong-headed. It's Windows installers and the Registry that he should be criticizing as being mysterious and feeling "disconnected".

Edit:
Good article overall. I would like to see him be specific about the value proposition though.
 

thirdlegstump

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Originally posted by: manly
Reading the article now; I thought the introduction was weak.

And where he knocks Mac application installation is completely wrong-headed. It's Windows installers and the Registry that he should be criticizing as being mysterious and feeling "disconnected".

Edit:
Good article overall. I would like to see him be specific about the value proposition though.

Actually I think what he meant by disconnected was that on the X installers, you don't really know where the stuff is getting installed into, hence you don't feel what is really happening, hence the disconnected feeling. A lot of Windows installers pretty much rip through a list of files being installed and you can use the registry sort of like a look up tool on how some applications reference with the system and other applications.
 

Chaotic42

Lifer
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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
WTF? $150/month rent?! I would have a fleet of powermacs if I only paid that.
I live with family until I get my degree. The average rent around here is like $650/mo. When I was working at McDonald's I paid $555. Hard to do with $700/mo paychecks.

 

manly

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
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Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: manly
Reading the article now; I thought the introduction was weak.

And where he knocks Mac application installation is completely wrong-headed. It's Windows installers and the Registry that he should be criticizing as being mysterious and feeling "disconnected".

Edit:
Good article overall. I would like to see him be specific about the value proposition though.

Actually I think what he meant by disconnected was that on the X installers, you don't really know where the stuff is getting installed into, hence you don't feel what is really happening, hence the disconnected feeling. A lot of Windows installers pretty much rip through a list of files being installed and you can use the registry sort of like a look up tool on how some applications reference with the system and other applications.
I know what he meant, but he's simply wrong (even if colored by Wintel experience). Anybody who understands how app installation on Windows and OS X is would not reach his conclusion. (Virtually) every Windows app has a dedicated uninstaller because a human cannot reverse the process easily as in Mac OS. You may use the Registry as a tool, but it's really machine-read, not meant for human use.

His immediate follow-up comments re: Office 2004 expose the misconception.
 
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Heck! I have to pay $700.00 for one room apartment in Atlanta. But then again, I live in an expensive neighborhood where houses start at $300K and go all the way up to $800K and even million. :)
 

thirdlegstump

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Re: I know what he meant, but he's simply wrong (even if colored by Wintel experience). Anybody who understands how app installation on Windows and OS X is would not reach his conclusion. (Virtually) every Windows app has a dedicated uninstaller because a human cannot reverse the process easily as in Mac OS. You may use the Registry as a tool, but it's really machine-read, not meant for human use.

His immediate follow-up comments re: Office 2004 expose the misconception. /Q

Well wrong is kind of a subjective opinion isn't it? Not every MacOS installer behaves the same you know. Some apps may randomly throw preference files all over the users/library folder and/or the system library folder or god knows where else. When it comes to uninstall and it doesn't come with an uninstaller or even an installation log file, where can you look? Nowhere that's where. You have to pretty much guess where the files are and hope that it doesn't cause an issue sometime in the future when you decide to reinstall a different version of the application or whatever else. I know that isn't the case with a good chunk of the main applications but there are some headcase apps out there. Even worse is with MacOS 9 when some apps overwrite newer extensions or throw in some hard to guess extension names which often lead to freezes or other bullcrap. I've owned various Macs since the 6100 all the way to the dual 1.25 G4, I'm not sh*ttin ya.
 

ViRGE

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To answer the original question, he's posted numerous times that he's still using the Mac as his primary work machine. Check his latest Blog entry.
 

Adn4n

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I'm quoting myself here:

"What's an iMac? I have no clue when it comes to apple computers. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night."
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Adn4n
I'm quoting myself here:

"What's an iMac? I have no clue when it comes to apple computers. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night."

It wasn't worth it...