Afro -Americans

[Trikat]

Originally posted by: stash
Dave Matthews is from Africa, so is he an African-American?

See why labels suck now?

Well what are you supposed to call them then.
Some don't like blacks. They get very offended.
Nergo is probably worse than black.
African-American doesn't apply all the time as someone else can be an "African-American." Also they could be just X-American or American.
No proper term these days.

Not being racist here, just stating what I think...

 

[g8wayrebel]

Arkitech,
Thank you for a good and sincere post. Nice to hear your own businesss is doing well. Good luck.

Crackhead,
This post was created for people exactly like you.
First , saying that sports and music are dominated by blacks IS RACIST.
How can you call me a racist for trying to learn and provide incite to issues , which you pretend don't exist by the way,
and at the same time make a racist statement such as that.
There have been popular famous people fired for less.
Thanks for your useless ,uninformed ,racially indifferent post though.

Secondly ,I work in a predominantly black situation , and live in a diverse neighborhood.
I hear all day long about the disadvantages , but I can't get an explanation of what they are.
I see the posts about them , but no explanation of them.
According to your definition of racist , that makes all the people saying this racists.
There is , by the way , no partial racist. You either are a "total racist" or you are not a racist.
In the case of non immigrant black people , I see a separation from others by choice of the majority of those same poeple.
That makes them racist by segregation , and me racist for addressing them as a separate group and posing such questions.
At least I am not in denial of reality.


What are the disadvantages of being a native born black person in this country (there seems to be a difference from immigrant blacks)?

Who is Uncle Tom , and why is that a bad thing?
I have read the book , so don't bother with the obvious.
I just don't understand the intraracial titling of successful blacks.
It would appear that joining society is still not acceptable to the black people as a whole.

 

[Arkitech]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Arkitech
looks like I'll be the first one to answer the question

Speaking only for myself I wish more black people would realize what kind of image they present to the rest of the world. I've voiced this opinion many times and I've had people tell me that I'm an Uncle Tom or something along those lines. It really hurts to see people of my own race going through life with so little ambition (I have theory behind that but I'll save it for another day). However it should also be noted that there are many, many black people who like myself pride themselves on working hard and maintaining strong families and friendships.

At times it can really be a difficult experience being a black guy, that's not to say that everyday of the week I'm fighting racial opression and running from the klan. But there has been occasions where I've been the victim of blatant racism. For example back when I was in high school my best friend and I were walking home from the mall, (we missed the last bus for that night) we were on a main street which was in a pre-dominantly white area. Anyway as we were walking along a bunch of guys in a SUV pulled up next to us and started screaming the n-word and throwing beer cans at us. Naturally my buddy and I ran like hell, we went about a block and then we saw a police car. The SUV punks saw the cop too and they turned down a side street. At this point the policeman drove over to us and asked what we were doing. We replied that we had missed the last bus from the mall and were walking home, the guy then replied he would be watching us and to stay out of trouble. Needless to say my friend and I were shocked and upset. A more recent encounter I had was a few months ago in a Borders bookstore. I was standing in line waiting to pay for a few items. An older white lady who did'nt see where the line formed stepped ahead of me, her daughter (I think she was in her 40's) who was with her tried to pull her to the back of the line. I politely smiled and said that I did'nt mind if they wanted to go ahead of me, the daughter rolled her eyes and whispered under he breath "fvcking n!iggers". I could'nt believe it, I should have been furious but it just made me really sad. It's such a drag to work hard and try to present yourself as a respectable person only to be torn down soley on skin color or some other meaningless criteria.

I did'nt intend for this post to drag on for so long but I'll just try to summarize in a couple of more sentences. Yes being black in america can have it's disadvantages, but I've learned from my 33 years of life that it does'nt have to hold you back. I feel as if I've accomplished a lot in life, I have a very nice home, a beautiful wife and my first child on the way. I also have a well paying job (even though I hate it right now 😛) and a side business that's really taking off (I"m talking about REALLY taking off). I've also managed to earn everything that I have through my own work, I had no handouts or freebies. I guess that's why I can be a bit hard on my own race, I just feel if you put forth the effort and try to make smart decision in life you can go far. At the same time I do realize that there still is much racism in america and it is'nt going away anytime soon unfortunately. All I can do is try to be the best person I can be and maybe someone will take notice and it might change their outlook about a few things.

do you like being called an African-American or is it time to lose the label already?

meh, I guess it does'nt matter much to me. Black or african-american suits me fine, I try not to get to touchy over the label. That's another thing that bothers me about my community when people blow minor things way out of proportion (Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton). I can understand people wanting equality and all, but you can't go to over war over every minor incident.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Arkitech

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Arkitech
looks like I'll be the first one to answer the question

Speaking only for myself I wish more black people would realize what kind of image they present to the rest of the world. I've voiced this opinion many times and I've had people tell me that I'm an Uncle Tom or something along those lines. It really hurts to see people of my own race going through life with so little ambition (I have theory behind that but I'll save it for another day). However it should also be noted that there are many, many black people who like myself pride themselves on working hard and maintaining strong families and friendships.

At times it can really be a difficult experience being a black guy, that's not to say that everyday of the week I'm fighting racial opression and running from the klan. But there has been occasions where I've been the victim of blatant racism. For example back when I was in high school my best friend and I were walking home from the mall, (we missed the last bus for that night) we were on a main street which was in a pre-dominantly white area. Anyway as we were walking along a bunch of guys in a SUV pulled up next to us and started screaming the n-word and throwing beer cans at us. Naturally my buddy and I ran like hell, we went about a block and then we saw a police car. The SUV punks saw the cop too and they turned down a side street. At this point the policeman drove over to us and asked what we were doing. We replied that we had missed the last bus from the mall and were walking home, the guy then replied he would be watching us and to stay out of trouble. Needless to say my friend and I were shocked and upset. A more recent encounter I had was a few months ago in a Borders bookstore. I was standing in line waiting to pay for a few items. An older white lady who did'nt see where the line formed stepped ahead of me, her daughter (I think she was in her 40's) who was with her tried to pull her to the back of the line. I politely smiled and said that I did'nt mind if they wanted to go ahead of me, the daughter rolled her eyes and whispered under he breath "fvcking n!iggers". I could'nt believe it, I should have been furious but it just made me really sad. It's such a drag to work hard and try to present yourself as a respectable person only to be torn down soley on skin color or some other meaningless criteria.

I did'nt intend for this post to drag on for so long but I'll just try to summarize in a couple of more sentences. Yes being black in america can have it's disadvantages, but I've learned from my 33 years of life that it does'nt have to hold you back. I feel as if I've accomplished a lot in life, I have a very nice home, a beautiful wife and my first child on the way. I also have a well paying job (even though I hate it right now 😛) and a side business that's really taking off (I"m talking about REALLY taking off). I've also managed to earn everything that I have through my own work, I had no handouts or freebies. I guess that's why I can be a bit hard on my own race, I just feel if you put forth the effort and try to make smart decision in life you can go far. At the same time I do realize that there still is much racism in america and it is'nt going away anytime soon unfortunately. All I can do is try to be the best person I can be and maybe someone will take notice and it might change their outlook about a few things.

do you like being called an African-American or is it time to lose the label already?

meh, I guess it does'nt matter much to me. Black or african-american suits me fine, I try not to get to touchy over the label. That's another thing that bothers me about my community when people blow minor things way out of proportion (Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton). I can understand people wanting equality and all, but you can't go to over war over every minor incident.

you sound very level headed 🙂
to recognize that Jackson and Sharpton really aren't role models is a good thing imho.

i think Bill Cosby and Morgan Freeman have made some brave statements lately, but they have a hella better message than the two i've just mentioned prior.

my thing with the African-American label is you are probably just as far away from actually coming over from Africa as I am from coming from Germany, and i don't/won't go by German-American. i guess i think the labeling needs to go.

 

[Ctrackstar126]

Originally posted by: g8wayrebel
Arkitech,
Thank you for a good and sincere post. Nice to hear your own businesss is doing well. Good luck.

Crackhead,
This post was created for people exactly like you.
First , saying that sports and music are dominated by blacks IS RACIST.
How can you call me a racist for trying to learn and provide incite to issues , which you pretend don't exist by the way,
and at the same time make a racist statement such as that.
There have been popular famous people fired for less.
Thanks for your useless ,uninformed ,racially indifferent post though.

Secondly ,I work in a predominantly black situation , and live in a diverse neighborhood.
I hear all day long about the disadvantages , but I can't get an explanation of what they are.
I see the posts about them , but no explanation of them.
According to your definition of racist , that makes all the people saying this racists.
There is , by the way , no partial racist. You either are a "total racist" or you are not a racist.
In the case of non immigrant black people , I see a separation from others by choice of the majority of those same poeple.
That makes them racist by segregation , and me racist for addressing them as a separate group and posing such questions.
At least I am not in denial of reality.


What are the disadvantages of being a native born black person in this country (there seems to be a difference from immigrant blacks)?

Who is Uncle Tom , and why is that a bad thing?
I have read the book , so don't bother with the obvious.
I just don't understand the intraracial titling of successful blacks.
It would appear that joining society is still not acceptable to the black people as a whole.

Alright first of all dont go calling me a crackhead. Its an actual usless insult and doubt would be called in my presence.
You even knew there would be racist comments when you posted but just wanted the real life answers so go ask one of your neighbors or people at work. It leaves an unsettling enviroment everytime a racey thread is made because there are a lot of ignorant people on this board and that is apparant if you have read any of the threads on it.
My comment abotu sports and the music industry first shows that they are as gifted and not disadvantaged. As far as the music industry there culture is one of the most copied cultures. the billboards prove this because obviously if only minorities were listening to Hip-Hop it would be all over the top ten all the time. So they are embraced the more we dont look at it as a race issue the more likely we are to move on.
There are partial racists. They are the people who mask there discrimination except when in the presence of there own. but when they see a person of another race they are all smiles.
Im not going to get into a flame war with you but these threads get out of hand everytime and shouldn't even be a topic like I said unless its a topic started by the race and they want to hear what has to be said one way or another. You on the other hand bring it up and make the choice if they want to hear what comes after.

 

[g8wayrebel]

In all fairnes I didn't see the "t" in your handle. I saw Crackstar126 , hence the dub crackhead. Sorry , couldn't resist.
As far as "to your face" goes , I probably would calll you cracker as your nic on a regular basis from what you've posted.
A racist is a racist , whether he smiles at the object of his scrutiny or not.
One of the reasons these threads get out of hand is because people like you feel it necessary to pretend not to be racist
and answer a question which was never in any way posed to you.
Clearly , you are not black , and therefore cannot answer the question.
Anything else is neffing in my opinion.
I don't see how you felt you were contributing to the converstaion by telling us to ignore it.
It doesn't exist if we don't see it ,is that the contention?
I think there is enough of that going on already.
From your post , apparently I have to be balck to want to understand what the issues for blacks are ,
or at least to ask the question.
That is . .. . I can't even begin to describe my contempt for that, what is it a philosophy , idea , position, notion?
Stupidity , that's what it is.
Knowledge doesn't seek aquisition , you have to ask the question to get the answer , and you don't go to the desert
to find out where a bear sh^ts.

 

[rhino56]

when i was a kid in school seemed to be the hardest for me. i got picked on alot because of my color and the fact that i was one of 4 kids of my race in the school.

one incident i remember was on the last day of school i was afraid to leave the school because of groups of people waiting for me to come out to beat on me.
its just how it was back then, adults didnt think it was much more than kids horsing around but to get beat down by 6 or 10 people, kicked while on the ground didnt feel too good.

by the age of 13 i had lost 3 of my adult teeth that had been knocked out from fighting.
luckily none of my front ones.

on the last day of school there was always race riots in the neighborhood, mostly people from middle and high schools. usually be about 40 to 50 blacks, 10 or 15 mexicans and about 40 to 50 whites there.

it was funny because the mexicans were the ones who were always kinda left out, they didnt really have an opposite group to fight. so they would usually get on the side that had the least people. we had chains, clubs, knives and whatever else we could find. people got beat up pretty bad sometimes but usually once a guy was bleeding on the ground people didnt do much to them.
it was those still standing that you had to worry about. it would go on until the cops arrived and then everyone that could would run outta there.
i remember trying to run and keep up but i had a gash above my eye and couldnt hardly see from the blood running into my eyes so i kept tripping over bushes and what not.

the last year of the race riots was when someone brought a gun, shot 2 mexican guys, that put an end to that fun. the police stepped in bigtime after that and were all over the streets near the last days of school.
funny thing was my best friend was a mexican, but on the last day he fought for his race just like i fought for mine. it was nothing personal, it was just like some kind of tradition that was commonly known.

it was a very violent area and most of my friends from that time are either locked up in prison or dead. i was one of the guys who did manage to make a life for himself but it wasnt before spending 3 years in prison.
it was just what we did, its how we were raised, im not mad at anyone for what i went thru or because i had to suffer, color doesnt mean anything when it comes down to it, if there was another race from another school that we could have fought and there was 200 of them the blacks, mexicans and whites would have formed one group and fought them.

sorry for the long post, im almost 40 now so that kinda gives you the time frame of when i was in school. call people what you want to call them, it doesnt matter, what matters is who you are, if you cant call someone a ****** out loud to their face what does that make you? id rather be the one called ******, but usually people dont call me that because im white.

 

[vshah]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Lawn chair? Check
Keg of beer? Check
Popcorn? Check

I'm all set. 😎

kettlecorn ftw

 

[AMCRambler]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Nik
I hate all x-american titles. You're a fvcking goddamn American and that's that.

well, that's what i was getting at, but not as boldly. 😛

If I were black I'd prefer being called an African American over being called a Negro!

If I was black I'd prefer people took Nik's approach and didn't distinguish between our difference of skin color. We're all Americans, excellent point Nik.

 

[Arkitech]

Originally posted by: rhino56
when i was a kid in school seemed to be the hardest for me. i got picked on alot because of my color and the fact that i was one of 4 kids of my race in the school.

one incident i remember was on the last day of school i was afraid to leave the school because of groups of people waiting for me to come out to beat on me.
its just how it was back then, adults didnt think it was much more than kids horsing around but to get beat down by 6 or 10 people, kicked while on the ground didnt feel too good.

by the age of 13 i had lost 3 of my adult teeth that had been knocked out from fighting.
luckily none of my front ones.

on the last day of school there was always race riots in the neighborhood, mostly people from middle and high schools. usually be about 40 to 50 blacks, 10 or 15 mexicans and about 40 to 50 whites there.

it was funny because the mexicans were the ones who were always kinda left out, they didnt really have an opposite group to fight. so they would usually get on the side that had the least people. we had chains, clubs, knives and whatever else we could find. people got beat up pretty bad sometimes but usually once a guy was bleeding on the ground people didnt do much to them.
it was those still standing that you had to worry about. it would go on until the cops arrived and then everyone that could would run outta there.
i remember trying to run and keep up but i had a gash above my eye and couldnt hardly see from the blood running into my eyes so i kept tripping over bushes and what not.

the last year of the race riots was when someone brought a gun, shot 2 mexican guys, that put an end to that fun. the police stepped in bigtime after that and were all over the streets near the last days of school.
funny thing was my best friend was a mexican, but on the last day he fought for his race just like i fought for mine. it was nothing personal, it was just like some kind of tradition that was commonly known.

it was a very violent area and most of my friends from that time are either locked up in prison or dead. i was one of the guys who did manage to make a life for himself but it wasnt before spending 3 years in prison.
it was just what we did, its how we were raised, im not mad at anyone for what i went thru or because i had to suffer, color doesnt mean anything when it comes down to it, if there was another race from another school that we could have fought and there was 200 of them the blacks, mexicans and whites would have formed one group and fought them.

sorry for the long post, im almost 40 now so that kinda gives you the time frame of when i was in school. call people what you want to call them, it doesnt matter, what matters is who you are, if you cant call someone a ****** out loud to their face what does that make you? id rather be the one called ******, but usually people dont call me that because im white.

Wow, interesting story man. Where did you grow up and what was the name of your school? Also I liked the way you revealed what your race was at the end of the post. 🙂 Glad you still have a healthy perspective on life after what you went through.

 

[rhino56]

Originally posted by: Arkitech

Originally posted by: rhino56
when i was a kid in school seemed to be the hardest for me. i got picked on alot because of my color and the fact that i was one of 4 kids of my race in the school.

one incident i remember was on the last day of school i was afraid to leave the school because of groups of people waiting for me to come out to beat on me.
its just how it was back then, adults didnt think it was much more than kids horsing around but to get beat down by 6 or 10 people, kicked while on the ground didnt feel too good.

by the age of 13 i had lost 3 of my adult teeth that had been knocked out from fighting.
luckily none of my front ones.

on the last day of school there was always race riots in the neighborhood, mostly people from middle and high schools. usually be about 40 to 50 blacks, 10 or 15 mexicans and about 40 to 50 whites there.

it was funny because the mexicans were the ones who were always kinda left out, they didnt really have an opposite group to fight. so they would usually get on the side that had the least people. we had chains, clubs, knives and whatever else we could find. people got beat up pretty bad sometimes but usually once a guy was bleeding on the ground people didnt do much to them.
it was those still standing that you had to worry about. it would go on until the cops arrived and then everyone that could would run outta there.
i remember trying to run and keep up but i had a gash above my eye and couldnt hardly see from the blood running into my eyes so i kept tripping over bushes and what not.

the last year of the race riots was when someone brought a gun, shot 2 mexican guys, that put an end to that fun. the police stepped in bigtime after that and were all over the streets near the last days of school.
funny thing was my best friend was a mexican, but on the last day he fought for his race just like i fought for mine. it was nothing personal, it was just like some kind of tradition that was commonly known.

it was a very violent area and most of my friends from that time are either locked up in prison or dead. i was one of the guys who did manage to make a life for himself but it wasnt before spending 3 years in prison.
it was just what we did, its how we were raised, im not mad at anyone for what i went thru or because i had to suffer, color doesnt mean anything when it comes down to it, if there was another race from another school that we could have fought and there was 200 of them the blacks, mexicans and whites would have formed one group and fought them.

sorry for the long post, im almost 40 now so that kinda gives you the time frame of when i was in school. call people what you want to call them, it doesnt matter, what matters is who you are, if you cant call someone a ****** out loud to their face what does that make you? id rather be the one called ******, but usually people dont call me that because im white.

Wow, interesting story man. Where did you grow up and what was the name of your school? Also I liked the way you revealed what your race was at the end of the post. 🙂 Glad you still have a healthy perspective on life after what you went through.

thanks, i grew up in saginaw MI when it was the heroin capitol of the world. shool was webber jr. high and saginaw high.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Nik
I hate all x-american titles. You're a fvcking goddamn American and that's that.

well, that's what i was getting at, but not as boldly. 😛

If I were black I'd prefer being called an African American over being called a Negro!

Red, you are a Negro...I've seen pics. 😉

No I'm just hung like one:laugh:

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Nik
I hate all x-american titles. You're a fvcking goddamn American and that's that.

well, that's what i was getting at, but not as boldly. 😛

If I were black I'd prefer being called an African American over being called a Negro!

Red, you are a Negro...I've seen pics. 😉

No I'm just hung like one:laugh:

why did i have to give in to click temptation? 😛

 

[g8wayrebel]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Nik
I hate all x-american titles. You're a fvcking goddamn American and that's that.

well, that's what i was getting at, but not as boldly. 😛

If I were black I'd prefer being called an African American over being called a Negro!

Red, you are a Negro...I've seen pics. 😉

No I'm just hung like one:laugh:

You are one sick puppy...LOL

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: g8wayrebel

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Nik
I hate all x-american titles. You're a fvcking goddamn American and that's that.

well, that's what i was getting at, but not as boldly. 😛

If I were black I'd prefer being called an African American over being called a Negro!

Red, you are a Negro...I've seen pics. 😉

No I'm just hung like one:laugh:

You are one sick puppy...LOL

LOL, that was a Photochop some of my admirers did of me over at TFNN

 

[Arkitech]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Nik
I hate all x-american titles. You're a fvcking goddamn American and that's that.

well, that's what i was getting at, but not as boldly. 😛

If I were black I'd prefer being called an African American over being called a Negro!

Red, you are a Negro...I've seen pics. 😉

No I'm just hung like one:laugh:

ahh my eyes, the goggles do nothing - Ranier Wolfcastle

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: FlashG

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Lawn chair? Check
Keg of beer? Check
Popcorn? Check

I'm all set. 😎

Please pass the limes for my stein.

LIMES?

For the cerveza I hope.

I have been drinking more :wine: lately

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: Arkitech
looks like I'll be the first one to answer the question

Speaking only for myself I wish more black people would realize what kind of image they present to the rest of the world. I've voiced this opinion many times and I've had people tell me that I'm an Uncle Tom or something along those lines. It really hurts to see people of my own race going through life with so little ambition (I have theory behind that but I'll save it for another day). However it should also be noted that there are many, many black people who like myself pride themselves on working hard and maintaining strong families and friendships.

At times it can really be a difficult experience being a black guy, that's not to say that everyday of the week I'm fighting racial opression and running from the klan. But there has been occasions where I've been the victim of blatant racism. For example back when I was in high school my best friend and I were walking home from the mall, (we missed the last bus for that night) we were on a main street which was in a pre-dominantly white area. Anyway as we were walking along a bunch of guys in a SUV pulled up next to us and started screaming the n-word and throwing beer cans at us. Naturally my buddy and I ran like hell, we went about a block and then we saw a police car. The SUV punks saw the cop too and they turned down a side street. At this point the policeman drove over to us and asked what we were doing. We replied that we had missed the last bus from the mall and were walking home, the guy then replied he would be watching us and to stay out of trouble. Needless to say my friend and I were shocked and upset. A more recent encounter I had was a few months ago in a Borders bookstore. I was standing in line waiting to pay for a few items. An older white lady who did'nt see where the line formed stepped ahead of me, her daughter (I think she was in her 40's) who was with her tried to pull her to the back of the line. I politely smiled and said that I did'nt mind if they wanted to go ahead of me, the daughter rolled her eyes and whispered under he breath "fvcking n!iggers". I could'nt believe it, I should have been furious but it just made me really sad. It's such a drag to work hard and try to present yourself as a respectable person only to be torn down soley on skin color or some other meaningless criteria.

I did'nt intend for this post to drag on for so long but I'll just try to summarize in a couple of more sentences. Yes being black in america can have it's disadvantages, but I've learned from my 33 years of life that it does'nt have to hold you back. I feel as if I've accomplished a lot in life, I have a very nice home, a beautiful wife and my first child on the way. I also have a well paying job (even though I hate it right now 😛) and a side business that's really taking off (I"m talking about REALLY taking off). I've also managed to earn everything that I have through my own work, I had no handouts or freebies. I guess that's why I can be a bit hard on my own race, I just feel if you put forth the effort and try to make smart decision in life you can go far. At the same time I do realize that there still is much racism in america and it is'nt going away anytime soon unfortunately. All I can do is try to be the best person I can be and maybe someone will take notice and it might change their outlook about a few things.

We all experience it, regardless of color. A recent shopping experience: I went to ask a sales person about some car speakers. I patiently waited for her to get to me, and it did take awhile, but it was worth the wait. While we were discussing the speakers we were headed to the terminal to look something up, conversing as we went. Then all of a sudden this black woman says, "I need to find some speakers." The sales person looks at me then looks at the woman who then says, "Yeah, speakers." For some reason the sales person just starts looking confused. I said, "She was helping me." The rude woman says, "Exscuse me! Dont be rude! I just need some quick help." Mind you there were also other people waiting. But she jumps in front of me and everyone else and just demands help immediatley. I didnt say anything because everybody was looking at her. The newb sales person just starts to help her to diffuse the situation. As shes being helped, she stops and keeps muttering about me being rude. I was so tempted to say, "Isnt that the pot calling the kettle black?" Apparently the sales person was too slow and this woman wouldnt shut up. So finally I said, "Look, I patiently waited until my turn came up and you just barged in front of everyone. You got what want and your still going on about it?" I guess we were just supposed to be intimidated by her and not say anything. Or maybe her feathers were ruffled. She then stammered off before the sales person could finish helping her. We picked up our transaction like nothing ever happened.

Ok... but how is her being black relevant to this story at all?

-Max

 

[interchange]

For white people, there are a few groups:

-Those who are truly racist bastards that most white people hate as well.
-Those who are pretty well integrated and don't generally act any differently amongst blacks.
-The vast majority who are not racist but do not associate with black culture. They usually avoid unnecessary contact with blacks, and are generally polite and do not wish to offend. These people are often scared or suspicious of black people they do not know.

From a white guy's vantage, I see some general groups in blacks as well:

-Those who are truly racist bastards that most black people hate as well.
-Those who are pretty well integrated and don't generally act any differently amongst whites.
-The vast majroity who are not racist but do not associate with white culture. See where I'm going here?

Originally posted by: Doboji

Ok... but how is her being black relevant to this story at all?

-Max

I think there are many who take advantage of the large group of the majority of whites who try to avoid conflict altogether. These people don't give a rats ass about others, and they will take advantage of opportunities presented to advantage themselves. The story deals with such a person. There are ass-holes in every race, but blacks are especially put in position to take advantage of their race by this behavior. This puts a bigger rift between us, but the whites are as much as fault as the blacks. Why? Because the whites see a black ass-hole instead of an ass-hole who happens to be black. There will always be people of every race that will take advantage of others. That's never going to change.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: Doboji

Ok... but how is her being black relevant to this story at all?

-Max

Its relevent to my first sentence.

 

[ciproxr]

Blacks are better at sports ?

Blacks dominate the music industry ?

deppends on what sport your talking about, as for the music industry i can assure you their not.....

I had a friend who was white but grew up in a all black area but had moved to my town which was mostly white and in high school he would claim black chicks sing better, after we got out of high school he started listening to rock and now he claims white girls sing better.....lol

In todays society white people are the devil and we are raised to feel guilty for things we warent even around for........

We all have experienced racism , u know how manny black and hispanic chicks write on their profiles on blackplanet "no white boys and no mexicans"

If u go to a white power forum then yes racist comments are made, but if u go to a forum that has mostly white people and post something racist they will attack you right away

if you go to any non black power forum thats mostly black , you'll notice racist comments always , almost as if, if your black its okay to be racist.....

Another thing that piss's me of is why is there a blackmens magazine and ebony magazine but yet no whitemans magazine ? Some may claim cause every other magazine if for white men , thats still bullshit to me but even so at least we didnt come straight out and call it white mens magazine.....

I dont have a problem with black people but all im saying is i see more racism from their side then ours and no its not okay, its either were all equal or were not

I never understood why blacks today were so tramatized from slavery when they warent even around for it.....

Im 100% greek and as a matter of fact my people were slaves to the ottoman empire longer than african americans and believe it or not my people were slaves at the same time as african americans......My grandparents had to migrate to the US cause all the wars with the ottamans empire and world war 2 had left the country in poor condition.......

Do you see me complaining about slavery ?

Do i hate turks ? nope not at all , it does piss me off that their goverment dosent recognize a genocide that took place but that has nothing to do with the people and im sure if I were to go on vacation to istanbul the people would be really friendly

sorry guys not trying to be an ass but someone has to speak up


p.s about rasicm on halo and other video games, most of the time its a bunch of punkass teenagers who arent really racist....Im white and have been called a ****** on battlefield a million times.

 

[FlashG]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: FlashG

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Lawn chair? Check
Keg of beer? Check
Popcorn? Check

I'm all set. 😎

Please pass the limes for my stein.

LIMES?

For the cerveza I hope.

I have been drinking more :wine: lately

Si, una cerveza por favor. And that's the limit of my sophomore Spanish.

On topic, I'm comfortable being around interracial groups that respect each other, but don?t take themselves to seriously. I don't like being around bigoted people no matter what they are.