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Socio

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Africa is giving nothing to anyone -- apart from AIDS

'Africa's peoples are outstripping their resources, and causing catastrophic ecological degradation,' writes Kevin Myers.
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No. It will not do. Even as we see African states refusing to take action to restore something resembling civilisation in Zimbabwe, the begging bowl for Ethiopia is being passed around to us, yet again. It is nearly 25 years since Ethiopia's (and Bob Geldof's) famous Feed The World campaign, and in that time Ethiopia's population has grown from 33.5 million to 78 million today.

So why on earth should I do anything to encourage further catastrophic demographic growth in that country? Where is the logic? There is none. To be sure, there are two things saying that logic doesn't count.

One is my conscience, and the other is the picture, yet again, of another wide-eyed child, yet again, gazing, yet again, at the camera, which yet again, captures the tragedy of . . .
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Sorry. My conscience has toured this territory on foot and financially. Unlike most of you, I have been to Ethiopia; like most of you, I have stumped up the loot to charities to stop starvation there. The wide-eyed boy-child we saved, 20 years or so ago, is now a priapic, Kalashnikov-bearing hearty, siring children whenever the whim takes him.

There is, no doubt a good argument why we should prolong this predatory and dysfunctional economic, social and sexual system; but I do not know what it is. There is, on the other hand, every reason not to write a column like this.
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The author makes some very interesting points in this article, what is the humane thing to do?

Abolishing apartheid was a mistake, distributing condoms was a joke, last I read; they were using the condoms as water-balloon fish bowls. I also read where for every female born in Africa the odds were they would be raped at least once time during their life time.

The way I see it is those that have the power to do something have two choices;

Either forced birth control via contraceptive drug laced food or water and forced sex drive control with chemical castration drug laced food or water to both stop the out of control raping and the spread of HIV.

Or keep spending millions importing food supplies, let it keep happening until they have used up every single resource and implode with millions starving to death in the streets causing wide spread diseases that essentially wipes them out.



Well this thread went in a predictable direction. Discussing a controversial topic is fine, taking an extreme position without the hope of reasonable discussion is not.

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Originally posted by: Socio
The way I see it is those that have the power to do something have two choices;

Either forced birth control via contraceptive drug laced food or water and forced sex drive control with chemical castration drug laced food or water to both stop the out of control raping and the spread of HIV.

Or keep spending millions importing food supplies, let it keep happening until they have used up every single resource and implode with millions starving to death in the streets causing wide spread diseases that essentially wipes them out.
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No, and No..

We do need to cut off support for Africa's failing and corrupt states which should give the opportunity for real organic leadership to emerge. Any more outside tampering simply wont work. I guess this is impossible because the rest of the world is too dependent on the natural resources coming out of the continent.. It seems to be too hard for our corporations to turn a profit without dealing with the warlords and dictators.

Or we could give colonialism another try.. I mean it worked so well the first time...


So I agree that cutting aid is the solution, but I think your thread title is misleading because there are plenty of resources that come out of Africa.

also: We could just let the Chinese take care of the situation. I'm sure they'll do a bang up job and they could use the resources anyway.
 
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Africa is the posterchild of what happens when Imperialism "fixes/civilizes barbarians". After Europe Raped that continent and artificially divided it up, Africa's future was determined to be rocky.

Aboloshing Apartheid was one of the better things to happen to Africa in decades. It shouldn't have existed in the first place.
 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Socio
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Socio
[Blah, blah, blah I found a columnist that will confirm my racist beliefs, blah blah
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Douchbaggery confirmed:disgust:
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You have a better idea?
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Yeah stop posting!
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Since a majority of your posts seem to be personal attacks that suggestion is better suited for you me thinks.
 
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Originally posted by: Socio
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Socio
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Socio
[Blah, blah, blah I found a columnist that will confirm my racist beliefs, blah blah
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Douchbaggery confirmed:disgust:
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You have a better idea?
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Yeah stop posting!
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Since a majority of your posts seem to be personal attacks that suggestion is better suited for you me thinks.
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Yeah I'm sorry, I don't suffer fools well.

 
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The OP's mother should have undergone forced sterilization. :roll:
 
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Are you seriously implying that we have the right to chemically castrate an entire continent?
 
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Originally posted by: Darwin333
Are you seriously implying that we have the right to chemically castrate an entire continent?
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Not the entire continent just the nations with out of control birth rates, HIV rates and unfettered raping on nationwide scales.

It is far more humane than letting it just keep going until there is nothing left but wide spread starvation, diseases and epic death tolls.

Surely you can see no child would ever deserve to be brought in to a world like that it would be nothing but escalating child abuse and misery from day one with no hope.
 
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Originally posted by: Darwin333
Are you seriously implying that we have the right to chemically castrate an entire continent?
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It's hardly the first time he's posted something like this either. In fact, this is about all he posts. Socio is an apt username IMO, as he is obviously sociopathic.
 
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I think a bit more understanding for Socio is called for here. When I say understanding, I don't mean in the least compromise with his erroneous views. I mean understanding his point of view, the defects in him that cause him to hold views like this. He really doesn't understand, and the attacks on him just alienate him and don't help him get better.

I think what ails him largely is an underveloped sense of morality/civilization. It's the same sort of logic I see in people who were lucky to get good opportunities and make good money who turn around and view the poor as some sort of leeches on society and resent them, without compassion. The sort who love 'Darwin' humor and think they're the 'chosen ones' superior to others. Their policies tend to recalculate social policies where disaster for others is ok in the equation.

I'm not sure how to help such people develop. We can't send them all to a year in the peace corps, if that would help.

But I do think something should be done. And I am glad to see the views criticized, rather than cheered as they would be in some forums.

Socio, at some point it'd be nice if you learned enough history to understand the long-term effects of exploitave policies, among other things - why ending apartheid wasn't a 'mistake'.

Perhaps you could start with a bit of studying a religious lesson on the value of human life, all religions offer it.
 
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What ever happened to this guy?


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Epic troll thread in the works.
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Not true...son of African ruler buying $380 million yacht from Germany.
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the yacht was ordered by the President’s son in Equatorial Guinea, a small African nation where 60 per cent of the population struggles to survive on less than a dollar a day.
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The 118-metre-long luxury yacht, would cost almost three times more than the country spends annually on health and education combined.
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I think we have found the next ruler to be overthrown.
 
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Is Africa fucked up? Yes. Should we stop all aid? Yes. Your other non-sense about sterilizing people is kind of dumb. Let them die out, ignore them, stop supporting them, stop buying goods from them. If the people suffer enough they'll rise up against their rulers or die off like the people of Easter Isle. Either way the rest of the world benefits.
 
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