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Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Originally posted by: grasshopper26
Don't be silly, our response would turn them into a chunk of glass too... Besides, this is why we need the ABM system up and running... Makes all those nice expensive SS-18s useless...Originally posted by: Colt45 If Russia needs to send out enough SS-18's to make the US a chunk of glass, I say why not.
ABM systems would be useless if it came to that. Suppose that the US adopted your attitude, and decided to make the world it's footstool. True, no collection of countries could withstand a direct assault. But remember Al-Queda. Now if the more advanced countries decided we were as insane as some here seem to be, they already have the technology to slip nukes in by canoe if needed. Perhaps several dozen nukes driven by van to various locations, and set off at once. Everything goes down, and a tens of millions or more gone, and no one knows who to have the subs fire at. End of the US. Unlikely, but if you take the attitude that the US can do whatever, whenever without consequences you are a great fool. No one is that strong.
You must truly be a Hayseed to believe that anyone can take down the U.S. of A. After the bombs have gone off and the dead have been counted and when everyone else has shot their wad, the U.S. of A. will still have enough nukes left to turn the entire planet into a spheroid mirror! That is our power. That is our right! Nobody is going to fvck with us.
And you wonder why people are angry at the states.
MinorityReport
Senior member
Most people point fingers at Iran/Iraq yet not a single terrorist in 9/11 or any incident against US was from these countries in last 10 years.
Fools will support overthrow of Iraq where as terrorism next door in Saudia Arabia is increasing ten fold.
Kill Saudia terror first. Then Pakistan
Else be prepared for the gift of allah soon. ( as al queda proclaims )
Saudi US Ambassador's wife gave money to the 9/11 terorists yet nothing has been done.
Who is a pussy has been proven . it is present day US only.
Unbelievable .. we support Saudia who suports 99% of terror ... .. corrupt US admin to be blamed what else can we say or do ?
Fools will support overthrow of Iraq where as terrorism next door in Saudia Arabia is increasing ten fold.
Kill Saudia terror first. Then Pakistan
Else be prepared for the gift of allah soon. ( as al queda proclaims )
Saudi US Ambassador's wife gave money to the 9/11 terorists yet nothing has been done.
Who is a pussy has been proven . it is present day US only.
Unbelievable .. we support Saudia who suports 99% of terror ... .. corrupt US admin to be blamed what else can we say or do ?
ed21x
Diamond Member
Alot of people simply don't know the history and rely on the media bias to sway their opinions all over the place. Heck, when was the last time, most of you guys here ever questioned the perspective of the media?!?
media:
America is this evil, domineering country that picks on innocnt victims and won't butt out of other people's problems.
People hate us because we attacked them =\
The reason we're attacking Iraq is for their oil.
Afghanistan is innocent- we bombed them for almost no reason.
Israel is evil.
Truth:
There are 21 arab countries in the Middle East and only one Jewish state- Israel, which is also the only dmocracy in the region, and the only country that permits its citizens to worship freely (20% of Israel is not jewish)
The United States continues to provide more aid to impoverished countries around the globe than any other.
Iraq was given over two months to pull it's forces outside the outer fringes of Kuwait before they eventually entered the territory.
The reason the Arab world dislikes the United States almost solely bases off of the fact that we support Israel and did not allow the Arab world to conquer it. Thus I add more reasons why we support Israel:
In 1948, five Arab armies invaded Israel in an effort to eradicate it. Jamal Husseini of the Arab Higher Committee spoke for many in vowing to soak "the soil of our beloved country with the last drop of our blood"
The PLO was founded in 1964- three years before Israel controlled the west bank and Gaza. THe declared their purpose as to eliminate the State of Israel by means of Armed Struggle.
etc.. etc... (these are coming semi off the top of my head and from a current essay I'm writing on 🙂 )
<~ minoring in Southeast Asian Studies
media:
America is this evil, domineering country that picks on innocnt victims and won't butt out of other people's problems.
People hate us because we attacked them =\
The reason we're attacking Iraq is for their oil.
Afghanistan is innocent- we bombed them for almost no reason.
Israel is evil.
Truth:
There are 21 arab countries in the Middle East and only one Jewish state- Israel, which is also the only dmocracy in the region, and the only country that permits its citizens to worship freely (20% of Israel is not jewish)
The United States continues to provide more aid to impoverished countries around the globe than any other.
Iraq was given over two months to pull it's forces outside the outer fringes of Kuwait before they eventually entered the territory.
The reason the Arab world dislikes the United States almost solely bases off of the fact that we support Israel and did not allow the Arab world to conquer it. Thus I add more reasons why we support Israel:
In 1948, five Arab armies invaded Israel in an effort to eradicate it. Jamal Husseini of the Arab Higher Committee spoke for many in vowing to soak "the soil of our beloved country with the last drop of our blood"
The PLO was founded in 1964- three years before Israel controlled the west bank and Gaza. THe declared their purpose as to eliminate the State of Israel by means of Armed Struggle.
etc.. etc... (these are coming semi off the top of my head and from a current essay I'm writing on 🙂 )
<~ minoring in Southeast Asian Studies
That's going to be a great essay, Eddy. Perhaps ole' hagbard can help you with it. I'm REALLY hoping I can get him to elaborate on this:
"And why are you being attacked? This is something that most Americans refuse to confrount in a honest and truthful way."
He seems to HATE to support his statements with links or facts, but maybe he'll make an exception in this case. I'm sure he'll want you to have your facts straight in this essay! 😉
Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: etech
hagbard
I tend to pay little to no attention to people who do not call the President of the United States by his proper title. Strike one.
Eric Margolis has been against US policy including the liberation of Afghanistan from the Taliban. His bias in previous and this article are openly apparent by the blatant rhetoric that he uses. Strike two.
As has been mentioned before, there is no confirmation much less believability in the majority of the claims that are made in his article. He made the contentions it is up to him to provide the proof. If you are supporting this 'article', than it is up to you to defend it. If you can't or are unwilling to do so. Strike three.
But for all the propaganda about wicked Saddam Hussein,
Is it al propaganda? How has Saddam stayed in power? Has he spent money on elaborate and lavish palaces while his people have starved?
Nor is it for their intellectual and emotional mentors in Israel's rightwing Likud Party.
That's all that statement deserves.
I don't see the need in going any further. Anyone he dislikes is an extremist while he portrays Saddam as a misunderstood pussycat. The man is an idiot and you are tainted with the same brush by even posted such worthless claptrap. Some people wonder why the US seems not to care about what people in other nations think of us. People from other nations bringing up BS articles like this are one good reason.
1. I was actually going to call him Emperor Moron, but I restrained myself.
2. Dispite what you think of Eric Margolis, he's held in pretty high regard in this country, and regularly interviewed on matters regarding the middle east. He's seen upclose the hypocritical matter that the US has conducted itself in that part of the world.
3. Try reading a newspaper. I don't need a editorial piece to provide sources, I've have enough background on the issue to follow along.
4. He hardly paints Saddam as a "misunderstood pussycat" but he doesn't see any evidence that he has weapons of mass destruction either. N. Korea even admits to it, but does the US target N. Korea? And we all know that Israel is fully stocked with such weapons, you think they'd ever focus on that country. lol.
5. Why don't we wait and see how "true" Mr. Margolis' analysis is? In the last paragraph, he says the following:
"By February or March, the US media will likely be flooded with dire warnings about the threat to the world from Iran. Israel's American lobby will turn its guns from Iraq to Iran. 'Links' will surely be 'discovered' between Iran and al-Qaida. The cookie-cutter pattern that worked for whipping up war psychosis against Iraq should work just as well against Iran, Syria, or Saudi Arabia - and win the next national election."
But then, I'm still waiting to see any evidence uncovered that Iraq has any weapons of mass destruction, as you leader claims. We should be sending UN inspectors into the US...we know what we'd find there.
The cold hard truth is both you and Mr. Margolis are insignificant being that will never ever be able to affect what the USA can/will do. All these arguments are just entertaining to read how bitchy people that dislike the US can be, but has zero influence in any other aspects.
Originally posted by: rufruf44
Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: etech
hagbard
I tend to pay little to no attention to people who do not call the President of the United States by his proper title. Strike one.
Eric Margolis has been against US policy including the liberation of Afghanistan from the Taliban. His bias in previous and this article are openly apparent by the blatant rhetoric that he uses. Strike two.
As has been mentioned before, there is no confirmation much less believability in the majority of the claims that are made in his article. He made the contentions it is up to him to provide the proof. If you are supporting this 'article', than it is up to you to defend it. If you can't or are unwilling to do so. Strike three.
But for all the propaganda about wicked Saddam Hussein,
Is it al propaganda? How has Saddam stayed in power? Has he spent money on elaborate and lavish palaces while his people have starved?
Nor is it for their intellectual and emotional mentors in Israel's rightwing Likud Party.
That's all that statement deserves.
I don't see the need in going any further. Anyone he dislikes is an extremist while he portrays Saddam as a misunderstood pussycat. The man is an idiot and you are tainted with the same brush by even posted such worthless claptrap. Some people wonder why the US seems not to care about what people in other nations think of us. People from other nations bringing up BS articles like this are one good reason.
1. I was actually going to call him Emperor Moron, but I restrained myself.
2. Dispite what you think of Eric Margolis, he's held in pretty high regard in this country, and regularly interviewed on matters regarding the middle east. He's seen upclose the hypocritical matter that the US has conducted itself in that part of the world.
3. Try reading a newspaper. I don't need a editorial piece to provide sources, I've have enough background on the issue to follow along.
4. He hardly paints Saddam as a "misunderstood pussycat" but he doesn't see any evidence that he has weapons of mass destruction either. N. Korea even admits to it, but does the US target N. Korea? And we all know that Israel is fully stocked with such weapons, you think they'd ever focus on that country. lol.
5. Why don't we wait and see how "true" Mr. Margolis' analysis is? In the last paragraph, he says the following:
"By February or March, the US media will likely be flooded with dire warnings about the threat to the world from Iran. Israel's American lobby will turn its guns from Iraq to Iran. 'Links' will surely be 'discovered' between Iran and al-Qaida. The cookie-cutter pattern that worked for whipping up war psychosis against Iraq should work just as well against Iran, Syria, or Saudi Arabia - and win the next national election."
But then, I'm still waiting to see any evidence uncovered that Iraq has any weapons of mass destruction, as you leader claims. We should be sending UN inspectors into the US...we know what we'd find there.
The cold hard truth is both you and Mr. Margolis are insignificant being that will never ever be able to affect what the USA can/will do. All these arguments are just entertaining to read how bitchy people that dislike the US can be, but has zero influence in any other aspects.
We'll just stick it in your face after you screw up and say "we told you so". You know, like those hippy's did in the 1960s-70s re the Vietnam war.
Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: rufruf44
Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: etech
hagbard
I tend to pay little to no attention to people who do not call the President of the United States by his proper title. Strike one.
Eric Margolis has been against US policy including the liberation of Afghanistan from the Taliban. His bias in previous and this article are openly apparent by the blatant rhetoric that he uses. Strike two.
As has been mentioned before, there is no confirmation much less believability in the majority of the claims that are made in his article. He made the contentions it is up to him to provide the proof. If you are supporting this 'article', than it is up to you to defend it. If you can't or are unwilling to do so. Strike three.
But for all the propaganda about wicked Saddam Hussein,
Is it al propaganda? How has Saddam stayed in power? Has he spent money on elaborate and lavish palaces while his people have starved?
Nor is it for their intellectual and emotional mentors in Israel's rightwing Likud Party.
That's all that statement deserves.
I don't see the need in going any further. Anyone he dislikes is an extremist while he portrays Saddam as a misunderstood pussycat. The man is an idiot and you are tainted with the same brush by even posted such worthless claptrap. Some people wonder why the US seems not to care about what people in other nations think of us. People from other nations bringing up BS articles like this are one good reason.
1. I was actually going to call him Emperor Moron, but I restrained myself.
2. Dispite what you think of Eric Margolis, he's held in pretty high regard in this country, and regularly interviewed on matters regarding the middle east. He's seen upclose the hypocritical matter that the US has conducted itself in that part of the world.
3. Try reading a newspaper. I don't need a editorial piece to provide sources, I've have enough background on the issue to follow along.
4. He hardly paints Saddam as a "misunderstood pussycat" but he doesn't see any evidence that he has weapons of mass destruction either. N. Korea even admits to it, but does the US target N. Korea? And we all know that Israel is fully stocked with such weapons, you think they'd ever focus on that country. lol.
5. Why don't we wait and see how "true" Mr. Margolis' analysis is? In the last paragraph, he says the following:
"By February or March, the US media will likely be flooded with dire warnings about the threat to the world from Iran. Israel's American lobby will turn its guns from Iraq to Iran. 'Links' will surely be 'discovered' between Iran and al-Qaida. The cookie-cutter pattern that worked for whipping up war psychosis against Iraq should work just as well against Iran, Syria, or Saudi Arabia - and win the next national election."
But then, I'm still waiting to see any evidence uncovered that Iraq has any weapons of mass destruction, as you leader claims. We should be sending UN inspectors into the US...we know what we'd find there.
The cold hard truth is both you and Mr. Margolis are insignificant being that will never ever be able to affect what the USA can/will do. All these arguments are just entertaining to read how bitchy people that dislike the US can be, but has zero influence in any other aspects.
We'll just stick it in your face after you screw up and say "we told you so". You know, like those hippy's did in the 1960s-70s re the Vietnam war.
Feel free, but the fact remain that nothing you do in your life will ever influence or have meaning in this country, unless you ready to commit a major terrorist act.
hagbard
Well, you just helped lower my estimate of Canadians. The man is just a struggling writer trying to make a buck. His ploy seems to be attacking the US with little to no facts in his story. It seems like P.T. was right, a sucker is born every minute.
But for all the propaganda about wicked Saddam Hussein,
Sure, it's all just propaganda about Uncle Saddam. sure it is.
N. Korea has already been hit with trade sanctions for their breaking of the agreement they signed. Try reading a newspaper sometime.
Well, you just helped lower my estimate of Canadians. The man is just a struggling writer trying to make a buck. His ploy seems to be attacking the US with little to no facts in his story. It seems like P.T. was right, a sucker is born every minute.
But for all the propaganda about wicked Saddam Hussein,
Sure, it's all just propaganda about Uncle Saddam. sure it is.
N. Korea has already been hit with trade sanctions for their breaking of the agreement they signed. Try reading a newspaper sometime.
Originally posted by: rufruf44
Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: rufruf44
Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: etech
hagbard
I tend to pay little to no attention to people who do not call the President of the United States by his proper title. Strike one.
Eric Margolis has been against US policy including the liberation of Afghanistan from the Taliban. His bias in previous and this article are openly apparent by the blatant rhetoric that he uses. Strike two.
As has been mentioned before, there is no confirmation much less believability in the majority of the claims that are made in his article. He made the contentions it is up to him to provide the proof. If you are supporting this 'article', than it is up to you to defend it. If you can't or are unwilling to do so. Strike three.
But for all the propaganda about wicked Saddam Hussein,
Is it al propaganda? How has Saddam stayed in power? Has he spent money on elaborate and lavish palaces while his people have starved?
Nor is it for their intellectual and emotional mentors in Israel's rightwing Likud Party.
That's all that statement deserves.
I don't see the need in going any further. Anyone he dislikes is an extremist while he portrays Saddam as a misunderstood pussycat. The man is an idiot and you are tainted with the same brush by even posted such worthless claptrap. Some people wonder why the US seems not to care about what people in other nations think of us. People from other nations bringing up BS articles like this are one good reason.
1. I was actually going to call him Emperor Moron, but I restrained myself.
2. Dispite what you think of Eric Margolis, he's held in pretty high regard in this country, and regularly interviewed on matters regarding the middle east. He's seen upclose the hypocritical matter that the US has conducted itself in that part of the world.
3. Try reading a newspaper. I don't need a editorial piece to provide sources, I've have enough background on the issue to follow along.
4. He hardly paints Saddam as a "misunderstood pussycat" but he doesn't see any evidence that he has weapons of mass destruction either. N. Korea even admits to it, but does the US target N. Korea? And we all know that Israel is fully stocked with such weapons, you think they'd ever focus on that country. lol.
5. Why don't we wait and see how "true" Mr. Margolis' analysis is? In the last paragraph, he says the following:
"By February or March, the US media will likely be flooded with dire warnings about the threat to the world from Iran. Israel's American lobby will turn its guns from Iraq to Iran. 'Links' will surely be 'discovered' between Iran and al-Qaida. The cookie-cutter pattern that worked for whipping up war psychosis against Iraq should work just as well against Iran, Syria, or Saudi Arabia - and win the next national election."
But then, I'm still waiting to see any evidence uncovered that Iraq has any weapons of mass destruction, as you leader claims. We should be sending UN inspectors into the US...we know what we'd find there.
The cold hard truth is both you and Mr. Margolis are insignificant being that will never ever be able to affect what the USA can/will do. All these arguments are just entertaining to read how bitchy people that dislike the US can be, but has zero influence in any other aspects.
We'll just stick it in your face after you screw up and say "we told you so". You know, like those hippy's did in the 1960s-70s re the Vietnam war.
Feel free, but the fact remain that nothing you do in your life will ever influence or have meaning in this country, unless you ready to commit a major terrorist act.
Or become president...oh damn, I'm Canadian 😉
Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: rufruf44
Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: rufruf44
Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: etech
hagbard
I tend to pay little to no attention to people who do not call the President of the United States by his proper title. Strike one.
Eric Margolis has been against US policy including the liberation of Afghanistan from the Taliban. His bias in previous and this article are openly apparent by the blatant rhetoric that he uses. Strike two.
As has been mentioned before, there is no confirmation much less believability in the majority of the claims that are made in his article. He made the contentions it is up to him to provide the proof. If you are supporting this 'article', than it is up to you to defend it. If you can't or are unwilling to do so. Strike three.
But for all the propaganda about wicked Saddam Hussein,
Is it al propaganda? How has Saddam stayed in power? Has he spent money on elaborate and lavish palaces while his people have starved?
Nor is it for their intellectual and emotional mentors in Israel's rightwing Likud Party.
That's all that statement deserves.
I don't see the need in going any further. Anyone he dislikes is an extremist while he portrays Saddam as a misunderstood pussycat. The man is an idiot and you are tainted with the same brush by even posted such worthless claptrap. Some people wonder why the US seems not to care about what people in other nations think of us. People from other nations bringing up BS articles like this are one good reason.
1. I was actually going to call him Emperor Moron, but I restrained myself.
2. Dispite what you think of Eric Margolis, he's held in pretty high regard in this country, and regularly interviewed on matters regarding the middle east. He's seen upclose the hypocritical matter that the US has conducted itself in that part of the world.
3. Try reading a newspaper. I don't need a editorial piece to provide sources, I've have enough background on the issue to follow along.
4. He hardly paints Saddam as a "misunderstood pussycat" but he doesn't see any evidence that he has weapons of mass destruction either. N. Korea even admits to it, but does the US target N. Korea? And we all know that Israel is fully stocked with such weapons, you think they'd ever focus on that country. lol.
5. Why don't we wait and see how "true" Mr. Margolis' analysis is? In the last paragraph, he says the following:
"By February or March, the US media will likely be flooded with dire warnings about the threat to the world from Iran. Israel's American lobby will turn its guns from Iraq to Iran. 'Links' will surely be 'discovered' between Iran and al-Qaida. The cookie-cutter pattern that worked for whipping up war psychosis against Iraq should work just as well against Iran, Syria, or Saudi Arabia - and win the next national election."
But then, I'm still waiting to see any evidence uncovered that Iraq has any weapons of mass destruction, as you leader claims. We should be sending UN inspectors into the US...we know what we'd find there.
The cold hard truth is both you and Mr. Margolis are insignificant being that will never ever be able to affect what the USA can/will do. All these arguments are just entertaining to read how bitchy people that dislike the US can be, but has zero influence in any other aspects.
We'll just stick it in your face after you screw up and say "we told you so". You know, like those hippy's did in the 1960s-70s re the Vietnam war.
Feel free, but the fact remain that nothing you do in your life will ever influence or have meaning in this country, unless you ready to commit a major terrorist act.
Or become president...oh damn, I'm Canadian 😉
And an American hating idiot, which is a bigger strike against you.
MooseKnuckle
Golden Member
Maybe if the terrorists struck north of the border on 9/11, he'd be singing a different tune? Sit back and smile, when they strike your candyasses the US will bail you out.
Parasited?
The only parasite I see here is one who is so blinded with "patriotism" or "love for their country" that they refuse to take a step back and look at the reality of their country's actions. It is men like you who topple democracies.
I love my country. My family immigrated here from Russia right after the Bolshevik revolution - my great-uncle was shot by them for refusing to give up his land. My grandfather was a Seabee during WWII, my father fought in Vietnam. I'm looking at joining the Air Force after I get my Ph. D. I love my country, and I will fight for it.
What I will not fight for is some barely educated half-wit who can't look objectively at the world around him. Yes, terrorism is a horrible thing. However, was it something that just sprung up out of the blue? Or, like France after WWI, have we done something to precipitate this disaster?
Very few people devote suicide bombers and their life's fortunes to such a ruinous cause without some instigation.
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