Affordable Phase Changing on its way?!?!

BrownTown

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personally i believe that more "extreme" cooling should be much mroe mainstream then it is. There honestly isnt any reason why a water system should cost 200$, and a phase cooling system should cost 500+, when you look at the components they have it jsut shouldnt be that high. I mean, you cna get a little fridge for 100$ that works jsut like a phase change system, but is much cheaper. Also, a radiator and some water pumps shouldn;t cost what they do either. But even at the given prices, it just makes sense to use water cooling more. When you consider the huge markup that chipmakers put on the high end CPUs, getting a lower end one and overclocking it just as high makes alot more sense. If water cooling were something that was standard in PCs, then i'm sure the per unit cost coudl be more like 50$ for a standard system, but instead nowadays you have to get it seperately from ocmpanies that don't sell enough volume to really make it economical. Anyways, thats just my 2 cents...
 

Unkno

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Originally posted by: BrownTown
personally i believe that more "extreme" cooling should be much mroe mainstream then it is. There honestly isnt any reason why a water system should cost 200$, and a phase cooling system should cost 500+, when you look at the components they have it jsut shouldnt be that high. I mean, you cna get a little fridge for 100$ that works jsut like a phase change system, but is much cheaper. Also, a radiator and some water pumps shouldn;t cost what they do either. But even at the given prices, it just makes sense to use water cooling more. When you consider the huge markup that chipmakers put on the high end CPUs, getting a lower end one and overclocking it just as high makes alot more sense. If water cooling were something that was standard in PCs, then i'm sure the per unit cost coudl be more like 50$ for a standard system, but instead nowadays you have to get it seperately from ocmpanies that don't sell enough volume to really make it economical. Anyways, thats just my 2 cents...

i agree....and the only way to get these extreme coolers into mainstream and lower the prices is waiting until they become nearly the default stock coolers for cpu and gpu. This shouldn't take very long since there are already manufacturers (sapphire) that are making liquid coolers for the gpu.
 

BrownTown

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yeah, i can understand with CPUs that AMD and Intel will get pissed if you start overclocking all their cheap processors and makign their expensive ones worthless, but with GPUs, AMD and NVDIA seems to be OK with companies overclocking them. It shouldn't be too hard for someones to put a little water cooling with a 2 slot card that can keep the GPU cool, and make it so it doesnt sound like a vacuum cleaner in your computer.
 

Painman

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Anything manufactured in small lots is much more expensive than something manufactured in large lots. A lot of it is tooling and setup costs for the manufacture of individual components that aren't generic - the enclosure on that OCZ unit is a perfect example. It's several thousand dollars (maybe several tens) to set up production for that part, and that number is the same whether you crank out 50 enclosures, or 50,000. The cost is diluted accordingly.

So yeah, they're expensive now and that's a large part of why - but also a large part of why they'll get cheaper as they become more commonplace.