Affirmative Action: Revisited

[SheHateMe]

I think probably the best argument for eliminating affirmative action is to undercut racists who like to belittle the accomplishments of minorities in the professional world as being given their positions.

In this particular study the majority of students accepted outside the 10% quota were white in a ratio excess that of the demographic make-up of Texas. No one enrolled in UT currently benefits from affirmative action, yet such accusations will pour in from those so bitter and upset with their own lives that they have to lash out at others.

Yea...but certain groups, though. Its all about those certain groups.


I just find it laughable that 42 white kids can get into a school they aren't qualified to be admitted in...but at the same time, everyone will just pay attention to the 5 black/latino kids who were admitted under the same circumstances.

Mind = blown.


Not to mention that this school has an admission rate lower than Harvard and turned down 186 students of color that were qualified to get in. That just tells me that the competition is strong.

So really, this whole "but...Affirmative Action" excuse came about in this case because somebody thought they were entitled to something because of legacy admissions (historically, her family is comprised of UT grads) and when that fell through, she tried to play the race card.

 

[shortylickens]

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[highland145]

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[nehalem256]

I just find it laughable that 42 white kids can get into a school they aren't qualified to be admitted in...but at the same time, everyone will just pay attention to the 5 black/latino kids who were admitted under the same circumstances.

Mind = blown.

I guess that is what happens when there is a history of students being admitted to a school based on race through affirmative action.

 

[Svnla]

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[SheHateMe]

I guess that is what happens when there is a history of students being admitted to a school based on race through affirmative action.

As if there isn't a history of whites benefiting from being white.....

:whiste:


42 is less than 5, I guess.


Its okay when whites benefit from being unqualified...but the script is flipped when someone with a tan benefits under the same circumstances.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

There are many issues regarding race in employment and education. Unfortunately the remedies are as often as problematic as the problems themselves. Personally I'm for uniform standards. That does not mean I don't think that some are disadvantaged, far from it, but the solution is to identify people of potential and work to develop it regardless of color. Give the black student a real chance in primary education to be able to compete later. That would be fair in my mind.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Yea...but certain groups, though. Its all about those certain groups.


I just find it laughable that 42 white kids can get into a school they aren't qualified to be admitted in...but at the same time, everyone will just pay attention to the 5 black/latino kids who were admitted under the same circumstances.

Mind = blown.


Not to mention that this school has an admission rate lower than Harvard and turned down 186 students of color that were qualified to get in. That just tells me that the competition is strong.

So really, this whole "but...Affirmative Action" excuse came about in this case because somebody thought they were entitled to something because of legacy admissions (historically, her family is comprised of UT grads) and when that fell through, she tried to play the race card.

I think you are being a bit overdramatic about this whole thing. Yes, you are correct in THIS PARTICULAR CASE that it may not have been a factor but that doesn't dismiss it(affirmative action) as a problem overall.

 

[SheHateMe]

I think you are being a bit overdramatic about this whole thing. Yes, you are correct in THIS PARTICULAR CASE that it may not have been a factor but that doesn't dismiss it(affirmative action) as a problem overall.

No, it does not dismiss the problem. But this case makes me consider the possibility that other "Affirmative Action" cases were also Red Herrings. People have claimed that they were denied admission to other schools because they were white, but the evidence here clearly shoes that this particular person was unqualified and was denied while members over her own race, 42 of them were admitted getting a special "chance" for being unqualified.

It also shows me that there were also way more minorities more qualified for the spot this white girl thought she was entitled to. And, I wonder, how often that was the case in some of the other cases.

It puts this whole thing in perspective for me because I for one, am damn tired of people blaming their misadventures in employment and school admission on minorities.

So, it may not be just this particular case. This case has only been put on the spotlight because people decided to look into it. These court proceedings are public record, I wonder how many other affirmative action cases turned out to be bullshit.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

No, it does not dismiss the problem. But this case makes me consider the possibility that other "Affirmative Action" cases were also Red Herrings. People have claimed that they were denied admission to other schools because they were white, but the evidence here clearly shoes that this particular person was unqualified and was denied while members over her own race, 42 of them were admitted getting a special "chance" for being unqualified.

It also shows me that there were also way more minorities more qualified for the spot this white girl thought she was entitled to. And, I wonder, how often that was the case in some of the other cases.

It puts this whole thing in perspective for me because I for one, am damn tired of people blaming their misadventures in employment and school admission on minorities.

So, it may not be just this particular case. This case has only been put on the spotlight because people decided to look into it. These court proceedings are public record, I wonder how many other affirmative action cases turned out to be bullshit.

lol again with the over dramatic BS. Yes. This particular case isn't an affirmative action issue. However, the whole idea of Affirmative action goes against the pursuit of racial equality.

This one case doesn't do squat other than show an example of how affirmative action is a problem wither perceived or otherwise. In this case, a person thought they were wronged, but without the data that the suit likely brought out- no one would have known for sure. So while YOU want to think this brings "perspective" it just adds fuel to the fire for the rest of us who think it's a horrible practice.

I too am sick and tired of people whining about their lot in life. It's the whole victimhood mentality that liberals have been pushing on people for decades now. I try to live my life in a fashion that I take responsibility for my direction and destination - not blaming others for my perceived losses/failures/etc.

 

[werepossum]

Here is a perfect example = http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/pa...ctful--tough-love-or-too-much--184517447.html


Asian parents and other good parents would not think twice about punishment for this child behavior, yet in the article, there were more than a few who criticized this parents. WTH?


"Spare the rod, spoil the child" - old proverb.

I do not have the perfect solution either but the status quo is NOT working.

I say bravo for these parents. You have to do what works, and if all else fails use extreme measures.

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No. Possum is mine.

Aren't you white? If so, I invoke my right from Affirmative Action/set aside/prefer treatment/ <fill in the blank freebie programs> to claim him before you.

Not fair, you say? Raaaaccccciiiiiiiiisssssttttttt.

What's that? You better watch out or I am going to send you some nasty PMs, ok? You don't want that, right? Just ask another poster about my power. It was so awesome that poster is still can not find those gruesome PMs.

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