[AF] Andreoid & Finnzwerg watercool tinkering (TONS OF PIX)

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Andreoid

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those NB/SB waterblocks look cleeeeeeaannnn...nice work.
OMG, Awesome stuff!!!!
What a cool post.. I enjoyed this more and more as I scrolled down.
As said before, people like you guys are what keeps PC modding fun!!
great machining skills and great designs.
Fantastic work my friend!
thx!! :D

it is time again for something new from us

guess what there is new about this image :D ^^
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exactly the color!
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after a few tests we can color our copper bottoms fairly uniformly dark
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it is not really like the deep black of delrin/acetal or the oring
depending on the light rather a dark gray ...
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but it harmonizes well with the POM
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I had unfortunately just make my desk lamp for pictures :(
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I will do on the weekend times pictures of it on a motherboard
if you want to see it??!
otherwise, it want to be said that this is a new block for Gigabyte P55 boards :)
the new PWM031 water block

in our shop one can already choose a white cover for the block you wanna order...
but less than 4% of our customers use want the white tops at their request ...
do you think it the better choice of colored bottoms than a white cover?
what do you think of the coloring?
 

daw123

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The black colour match isn't too bad.

Are you going to offer a range of colours for the copper block bases, such as red, green, blue, etc?

I was just thinking that if people have colour schemes (for example, my colour scheme is blue), it would look cool if the water blocks match.
 

cbn

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done (cut / thread / etc) from the bottom with Oring
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upside
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Do you have the picture of the cold plate for this water block top half?

P.S. What I am looking at is a non-impingement design right?
 

Andreoid

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The black colour match isn't too bad.

Are you going to offer a range of colours for the copper block bases, such as red, green, blue, etc?

I was just thinking that if people have colour schemes (for example, my colour scheme is blue), it would look cool if the water blocks match.
no only black
Do you have the picture of the cold plate for this water block top half?

P.S. What I am looking at is a non-impingement design right?
dont understand...please write this in easier english :X


btw,..the black bottom surface is treated chemically with no paint that limit the thermal transfer



After the chipset coolers, we have now also in the PWM blocks a considerable amount of models.
Atm we do have 31 different models.

i have gathered some pwm blocks together:
f.l.t.r. PWM 031, 030, 024, 023, 021, 015, 014, 013
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Well these are now a couple of bottoms and all with the same cover...
if I now overlapping all bottoms I have all the necessary hole spacing:
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But this sux if i have to mill a new cooler for each new board at a 1 mm difference ...dont you think so too?

so lets see my Troubleshooting in the 3D CAD:

with 3 different mounting lashes as in the UCDs
and 4 mountingholes...
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The bottom is 13mm wide and the closest chanel in the block
is flow optimised to reduce the flow resistance

Here is a sectional view:
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The top is made of pom/acetal and does have G1/4" windings.
the overhang is 9mm high, and and makes space for RIO or capacitor components
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Here a 3D PDF,.to turn, to peek, hide components... ... etc
but i doesnt cool^^


http://www.anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/UCD4PWM.pdf

now the question...should we keep the old pwm models?
The UCDs have replaced the old models NBSB almost completely ... and this quite successfully.
After the success of UCDs, other German manufacturers had attempted to develop universal solutions, too.
It would not surprise me if, after the launch of this universal PMW block, some German manufacturers will try to develop something like this, too.
 

alfa147x

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Man this thread make me want to water cool my hackintosh! Keep up the awesome work!
 

Andreoid

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Man this thread make me want to water cool my hackintosh! Keep up the awesome work!
thx ^^

so you all don't only want to see our waterblocks, .. also the little machine that produce the copper-beautys :D ...
I had promised you to post the build-report from our CNC with we are spending with very very very much time

We start with the basic structure:

A cast mineral with the edge length of 700mm
(So not as great as it seems :D )
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The linear rail which we had previously sent to the mineral-cast-manufacturer all were assembled very clean.

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the ball screws, we have from a CNC forum.
20mm diameter .. 10 slope
the linear rails we have bought in ebay.
we have got the cast as a cadfile from the manufacturer
I had imported it into my 3Dprogram (Alibre)
my first try in the cad stuff looks like this:
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in der cad war ich nun noch nicht weit genug das ich mit großen teilen der cnc anfangen konnte,
also machte ich kleine notwendige sachen wie die Feingewindemuttern und Lagerblöcke.

with the help of cad file I wanted to create a safe construction to check the dimensions of the linear rails.
without the cad workings probably nothing would had worked.
I wasn't close enough in the cad that I could begin with large parts of the cnc
So I made some little things,... things that are necessary as fine-thread-nuts and bearing blocks.

brass Hexagon and a "Trennjäger" saw
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next steps i did on thos lathe:
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tools:
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Core hole drilling
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Tapping
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Andreoid

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Bevels
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cutting off
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almost finished parts
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Sorry for the bad quality of the pictures ... which were made with the mobile

soooo we come to the bearing blocks

I have worked with the Mikron here
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pre-milling
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Retaining bars for attaching
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then drilled the fixing screws for the fixable and movable bearing
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continueing soon...
 

Andreoid

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on it goes with CNC tinkering

the table was made of two old shelves and a steel L-profile welded together.
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all visible seams ground over and painted beautifully
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looking much better
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The cast mineral was moved out on its palette
and prepared for the separation of portal and bottom:
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and then, were the parts apart ..
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The stand has been prepared for the machine:
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Here with the later boxes and coolant filters:
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on the cross bar ...
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Andreoid

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...was laid a balance sheet (for the thickness of the L-profiles) and some anti-slip mats.
Please ignore the chaos in our workshop :D
I need this to keep everything in place in my head XD.
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the welded tray was laid in...
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here you can see the outlet:
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everything in position:
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It continues with the Z-axis ...
the first 25mm Bosch Rexroth rail was installed and ...
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Andreoid

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... adjusted.
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second rail:
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This must be precisely!
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the finished cut to length Z-spindle:
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looks great with the 4 wagon ... damn solid
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And here I will get problems with the installation later! -.-
first the wagons then the spindle? Or first the spindle? Or install all at once?
Okay ... the next CNC I will construct definitely a different way! :D
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Andreoid

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previously separate is brought together now

the machine pedestal
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must be back in the tub:
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So asked anyone with crane again
... Loops in the eye bolts
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and so into the tub
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here I screw the eye-screws back out
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then next the portal (under the covers)
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this is Finn :)
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not this easy
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Andreoid

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then mount the Y-spindle and align
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some punches for the table. so that it slips in position
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and fixing
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there will act large forces :)
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with assembled Z-motor
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coming forward very well... but the cnc can not mill so far :D
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Andreoid

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actually this should be a watercooling thread :D so I have to show you some waterblocks a few times between ^^

top left of the MSI 790FX fullcover ... and the follower down in the middle
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because a bad sitting capacitor on the board the new MSI 890FX fullcover block have now a smaller top. is has a winding distance of 18mm
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Despite 890s engraving backward compatible to 790FX ;)
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and if we are talking about the 890 boards...
PWM032 the new 890FX for ASUS boards!
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here a few photos of the user "fhantastic" from the "forumdeluxx"
He has let nickeled his evga cooler set (not by us...we can't do this)

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klick

PWM029 EVGA P55 left block
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klick

the EVGA P55 FTW 200 fullcover Waterblock
but it dont fit on the EVGA P55 FTW without "200" addition
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klick

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klick

regards
André
 

Andreoid

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something new again ;D

I start with a couple of photos that are prettier than mine :D
a high quality project, which I supported a little bit:

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Marc's "Projekt Black meets Blue" - Marc1993
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/communit...e-soundkartenabdeckung-ist-fertig-684330.html

on the Gigabyte GA-P55A were installed a PWM031 two times and a UCD grande.
the bottoms were stained dark chemical

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Unfortunately I can not make such amazing photos
for now I'll show some new models ^^
a new fullcover light waterblock for the MSI 890GXM-G65
 

Andreoid

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the cool links, like the 790 or 890FX cooler, the NB with the voltage transformers
I have decided against engraving, because the arm is very thin
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the Sapphire IPC AM3DD785G NB & SB block i have made new too :)
(our Soleil01 cpu block as AMD Version)
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close to the air cooler
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when a slot milling soleil01 bottom,..some things can go wrong ...
here is the saw blade bursted
you can still see the remains of copper sheet in the bottom
as a time to say, there is no action at a water cooling :D
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this weekend will get an Asus Crosshair IV Formula (AMD 890FX)
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There will probably come a full light as the 790FX
and maybe a total fullcoverblock


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Andreoid

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so, after three weeks of waiting for the board by a user ...
the board simply does not come, and the user do not report to my mails
so I bought my own board. -.-

first putting the uninteresting cooler down :D
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for the voltage converter and north bridge, there is again a anfi-tec light cover
this is the cooler in the cad file, graphically
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simulated:
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and in real life :D
top only layed on
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distance of 22.5 mm g1/4" thread .. it also fits thick 16/10 :)
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the copper bridge already provided in the ocerclocked MSI790FX good temperatures ... then it will work at the asus too :)
 

Andreoid

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Details:
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with the UCD (universal cooling device) SB in addition you get the board as completely cooled
should I draw a complete full cover block? (~ 12 hours of cad working)
I would at least have to mill about 10 blocks, so that the effort worthwhile for long cadding, ..

Now, you are asked:

1) a favorable light Cover + SB UCD is enough.
2) An elaborate Full Cover must be already.


regards
André
 

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From what have seen of work quality, etc. May have to treat myself to set of NB/SB/Mosfet waterblocks for Christmas from you guys!! Great work!!! Keep the updates and pics coming!!
 

Andreoid

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So i didn't post anything a long time ago... studies getting harder and harder.. spending more and more time with learning and writing tests
but now my tests of the last semester are over and i got the time to make some new blocks! :)

We got Asus crosshair IV extreme... overkclocking by iPhone... so this is the future of mainboards :D
so then,...lets cool this thing!
i made a 3D cad of the board,.. because this got to be complex
(the litle copper rings is the start of the waterblocks)
Asus&


these rings will be connected tangential.. an so the blocks grows
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between the PCI-E slot and the 4 capacitors i have space of ~ 8mm
if i design a waterchanel in there, it would kill every flow in the block
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two lightcoverblocks or two fullcoverblocks
made the copperplates:
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again the same problem... the space over the pwms is not wide enough for a chanel with a good waterflow -.-
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so i took the lightcoverblock which established itself in the MSI790FX, MSI890FX,
890GXM-G65, ASUS Crosshair IV Formula, Asus M4A 890FX and in the EVGA P55 FTW 200.
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