[AF] Andreoid & Finnzwerg watercool tinkering (TONS OF PIX)

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Hi everybody!
I would like to show you some pictures what I (André) with a friend (Finn) do tinker in our free time.
We both come from Cologne, Germany.

Our crafting threads on hobby basis consist in many forums since 2007.
The self made waterblocks have exited many readers, and some of you allready know our homemade coolers. Maybe some of you allready had discovered our pictures in the waterblock-picture-threads in other forums. With the handcafted coolers and complete Mainboardsets we leisurely got a name in watercooling by cooling enthusiasts.

In close cooperation with many forum users, we have developed a lot of waterblocks.
Often, you can take part of the developement and be really close with decisions here in the forum.

I hope that u are going to like reading my posts! ^^

at the beginning a picture from our old workshop in my basement:
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Left side: a noise-protection-box with CNCs, on the right...our manual drill.
at the bottom: this is me...gluing the CNC coolant effluent
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the workshop was really small.
It was 9m² and is now too small for our new CNC
But see below for more



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our standard Northbridgestruktur on the left - right side, our logo (ΛF) [ André & Finn] mowed in lawn: D


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left side, our first CNC - right, a couple of EVGA 680i PWM copper bottoms

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here our new CNC milling machine ...
here in the thread you can follow the assembling ;)
from the CAD to the implementation of the real machine

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and here are a few waterblocks ^^


the old basement was much, much too small for our new CNC machine...so we watched out for a new room.
An acquaintance have had a little space for ous in his wooden hall.
The place was just twice as large as my cellar, but hopefully that will be enough space for our new workshop.
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in the next few posts I will provide you with pictures of building the new workshop,.. so stay tuned ;)


MfG [ΛF] Andreoid & [ΛF] finnzwerg
 

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welcome AF.

nice to see you on our forum.

This is Naekuh over at XS.

I hope you enjoy your stay at AT and join us in our threads more!
 

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Would it be possible to PM me your website and how much it would cost to have the water blocks for the chipsets (if you can make them) on the GA-EX58-Extreme or a replacement top for the existing NB water block (I need G1/4 inlet and outlet ports).

I live in the UK btw - I'm not sure what taxes I would have to pay since we both live in EU countries.

P.S. Don't post your website in this thread - AT are funny about this type of thing; it goes against their TOS.
 

Andreoid

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welcome AF.
nice to see you on our forum.
This is Naekuh over at XS.
I hope you enjoy your stay at AT and join us in our threads more!
beautiful work !
Pretty awesome. People like you guys are the ones that keep modding computers fun.
thank you all :)
here some more:

the room for the new workshop at the beginning looked like this:
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Storage -.- good that vacuum cleaner exists ^^
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The wall you can see here is the wall to the outside.
We have embedded a couple of thick fiberglass mats so it's not going to be so cold in winter.
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it is finally a more lighted workshop ... This is much better than a cellar:)
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over the fiberglass mats, was stapled a protective film
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then we started with the casing:
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here the first wall is finished:
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That was't this easy with the 2 oblique beams
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Andreoid

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limited to 10 pictures? -.-




and here the second wall
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Then we started with the ceiling, here is Finn tightening the plates of Rigips
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it was the first time we did something
of course, have forgotten the smal beams under the Rigips-plates -.-
otherwise it would have been much more straight..... annoying

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While this here looks like total disability, but I'll show it ....
forgot the tissue-bound and the mixture was not the right thing ...
afterwards a friend of mine came over and has corrected our faults ^^
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so, that I not only bother you with dirty pictures of building the workshop
here something brilliant:

Finn and I had bought two 16GB USB Flash Drives supertallent
these were ideal to refine ^^
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very slowly and carefully engraved with the CNC
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like it?
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regards [ΛF] Andreoid
 

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building the workshop goes on

Finn was afraid that he will get cold feet in winter :D
so he had insulated the floor additionally
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well protected during working with the circular saw
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and the saw does its work
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Today, another cameraman
(I was sitting at home with a fresh operated hernia at this time)
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The new floor has been moved up into the last corner:
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ready:
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whether it works... i dont know
cause we have never worked without the wooden floor


The 2 best helpers during the work: heater ... and music
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here 2 full surround views:
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http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/ausbau2/gr9.JPG

for a large view, click on the link under the pictures.

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http://anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/ausbau2/gr10.JPG

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Andreoid

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it was -10 ° C outside and this we noticed by the single-glazed window -.-
so finn taped a thick foil in front...it worked very well
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Then they went on with the inside working
First made a couple of drawers
which lend themselves well as a surface to do the cuts
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and the first factory-bank (with sitting-height) was finished
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it is dark outside ... more red :D and the 2 workers are exhausted
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and now something for everyone who doesnt look in here for building workshop pictures:

my sister bought her aan dell-laptop... she said that it is too impersonal
so I've levered out the logo and made 2 plaques to engrave preturned

first try...
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here the cnc made some mistakes with the "n"
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not difficult to guess what's her name ^^
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i hope that i can show you something diffentent than engraving works next time :(

regards [ΛF] Andreoid
 

Andreoid

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Let's get for something of the tinkering which may be missing in no instance

the music ^^

I had 2 large PA speakers left, but the tweeter were broken
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opened and located
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the small hair-wires were torn down at the focal points -.-
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very thin
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So out of that glue
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soldered a new thicker wire
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Top out again, and solder them
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tested works :) - assembling
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and in the new workshop
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Andreoid

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In the workshop it went on.
all the drawers were finished and the workintables were completed
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stuff-boxes
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many other stuff what we've transportet in the new workshop
and a new heater we bought too
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computer for controling for cncs
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last but not least something for the watercooling-junkys:
I once i have tested whether Soleil fullcopperblock can be produced economically:
I have 3 pieces of milled
View from below:
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done (cut / thread / etc) from the bottom with Oring
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upside
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Andreoid

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complete with bracket screws floor and then he looked like this:
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We will keep the top here and investigate whether any material change has an effect on the performance of the cooler

in large quantities (economic production) as the Soleil POM-top can not produce the fullcopperblock with our current resources[/ b]
for everyone who does not know it yet:

Soleil01 with black pom-top
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the problems in producing the fullcopperblock are:
the bevel on mice top
The countersunk screws
The threading ger G1 / 4 "thread (I do this by hand, because the cordless electric screwdriver is to weak)
greater tolerance transgressions because the production is simply too difficult to edit material as plastic
maybe we could produce fullcopperblock economically with the big cnc later, but then it would kill the time by changing the cutting-tools manually

so an automatic tool change spindle for the big cnc must be purchased...
(but free in the required size, it will cost about € 10,000 incl
accessories such as tool holders, ac drives, pneumatic actuation)
*hmmpf* ... so saving money saving money saving money :'(
regards [ΛF] Andreoid
 

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Very nice progress!

If you don't mind me asking, what is the mill pictured in your first photo in your first post? Is it an older Proxxon or different?
 

Andreoid

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Very nice progress!

If you don't mind me asking, what is the mill pictured in your first photo in your first post? Is it an older Proxxon or different?
no..the first model on the picture with a cnc is from another german company..but bougth it on ebay
the one with the cad next to the photo is made by me :)

Continuing with the entrance into the workshop ... it had happened a lot.
The insulation-box has already been set up and the control PCs with monitors have been installed.
Works in comparison to the old workshop really lost in the space
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But before the CNCs were able to move back in the box, they had to be serviced in first.
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The Model-aluminum CNCs dont tolerate the coolant for miling and the copper in any way.
The CNC base are totally corroded. Thus, a AluCNC is nothing for eternity if one manufactures waterblocks.
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Then the machines into the box, and production begins ^^
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Large workshops want to accommodate large machines :D
our new helper
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handy :)
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although we have windows in the new workshop, one should not be missed,
The poster out of the first workshop... this now become indeed the third workshop ^^
hope we can stay in there for a longer time as in the other workshops -.-
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regards [ΛF] Andreoid
 

Andreoid

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here sth new out of the new workshop :)

can you see, what this is going to be?
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furthermore one need this caps
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and a big strong vice
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our Anfi-tec Logo as positiv form
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made out of brass
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and a opposite side out of plastic
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in complete this is a logo-die ;D
put a cap in it
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put the finger away
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and turn off strong
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Andreoid

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finished :)
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made this some more times
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now you've seen the cover ... but the other part of the cap (the can) is still missing ...
but that does not remain unfilled

one take for each can:
an empty can
an eXFRS CPU Waterblock
with montingmaterial
and manual
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here the block
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padding the can a bit
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put the block inside
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some more padding
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finished is the most exclusive waterblock-packaging of all times :)
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regards [ΛF] Andreoid
 

Andreoid

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Today there are only a short on our CNC milling machine

We bought us a 2nd high-frequency spindle for the smaller CNC.
It has to be fastened.
I cut an aluminum plate and drilled the corresponding mountingholes:
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The black rectangular plastic piece around the spindle neck is already an air lock made from Pom.
The spindle has a couple of air ducts for cooling and it's almost like a hair dryer.
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In addition to the plate it does require a splash protection because of the coolant.
This should be placeable as quickly and practically, and not direct the air downwards.
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So, a customized plexiplatte was formed with a heat gun
Drille the Holes for the air-outlets
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and filed
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Then we still need more flexible ...
Double-sided tape to fix:
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Then something plastic film
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The spindle with its holder looks like this:
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Andreoid

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then the pom-air lock:
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and splash protection:
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protection simply stuck through with the stress of the plexi.
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On the picture you can see the air ducts also:
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and this will protect the whole when milling the waterblocks :)
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regards [ΛF] Andreoid
 

Andreoid

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atm I don't post this much :(
Finn takes care at the most necessary in the workshop during the week.
I am mainly in my home community in Krefeld and in the middle of an exam period.
Way to making here some new things such as, for example, Set compilations:
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http://www.anfi-tec.de/Kompatibilitaetsliste.pdf

Despite that we are both having too much to do much outside of Anfi-tec,
there are a few small changes not only online.

Our garage get increases!
One of my former trainers has remind me in resolutiuon his hobby workshop
and had sold me its well-preserved Robling lathe:)
I've came along with a good buddy of me and picked up the lathe with much too small trailer.

On the ceiling is a chain was fastened to steel beams... the chain was, however,
hopelessly overwhelmed with the Turn, which we even had to let the air out of the tires.
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The "Little one" probably weighs as to the 600-700kg.
Here the car, but .. not yet finished lashed.
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Our dear neighbor has helped us with his ant to unload.
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Now the lathe is on a pallet and wait to move into the workshop :)
Because this must happen before a proper foundation has yet to be cast.
This requires a bit of wood for a frame
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Or direct a child's coffin: X
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Then removed the woodden ground with a circular saw at the appropriate place:
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Now that's missing is the concrete, but .. that will come when it is a bit more warm.
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Before coming up questions whether we now are able to produce fittings, ...no!
At first, the lathe is not yet set up and, secondly, it is conventional
(ie no CNC machine) for mass production. But I hope that we have a few
more options when tinkering with things as water coolers.

btw ...
in the middle of next week I'll get loan one P55 EVGA FTW
from the user "fhantastic" from "Forumdeluxx"
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Andreoid

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now i show you some waterblocks for the EVGA P55 FTW 200

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the design of the NB / SB cooler at first looked like this
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required after the first fitting of Plexidummys add another notch
and I have reduced the engravings somewhat...
well here you can see why:
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here he is Finn assembling the cooler:
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the NB / SB cooler does work like our last MSI 790FX full cover block:
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(das Bild ist von dem LUXX User Schlingel_INV)
He uses the thermal conductivity of the copper
The SB does not have much heat and so a copper bridge is enough.
the woeld be only space for one channel, what you can see here
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Then one of the fittings would have to sit between the graphics cards. -.-

The space for the voltage transformer cooler was not that huge,.. so I had to build up in the air because of the G1/4" connections -.-
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At least I was able to continue to use often used tops ..
this not only saves my nerves ^^ furthermore it gives a consistent picture
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what does EVGA think at the EVGA P55 NB fixings?
I do not know -.-
Never seen so many screws in a cooler, ..
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here are a few impressions with 13mm Dangerden fittings :)
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like this picture
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same in horizontal
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et voilà
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The Voltage Regulator waterblocks probably also fit on the standard EVGA P55 FTW
who else does have a P55 EVGA ftw can try one's luck ^^ with this http://www.anfi-tec.de/EVGAP55skizze.pdf


I'll probably need a photo tent, .. terrible dark pictures -.-
I'm sorry: D

btw... some more evga wbs,..but these are for an old 780i ftw :)
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CraigRT

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OMG, Awesome stuff!!!!

What a cool post.. I enjoyed this more and more as I scrolled down.

As said before, people like you guys are what keeps PC modding fun!!