Advice

[Bill Anted]

Okay, so I am filling out some applications and I get to the section that asks if I have ever been convicted of any crimes or if I have ever been convicted or involved in a misdem or felony, those type of things.

When I was 17, I received a disorderly conduct, and when I was in college, I got an underage.

The disorderly should have been removed when I turned 18. The underage was removed from my record because I agreed to go to classes through a community group.

The question is do I have to mention these two events?

I don't really understand the point of me going through the class and the alternative punishment to remove it from my record if I have to mention it. I really do not know what to do, and to be honest, since underage drinking is considered a summary offense, I don't even know if it is technically a crime.

Any lawyer, law enforcement or anyone with any experience willing to give me any advice?

 

[Canai]

look yourself up online.

 

[Bill Anted]

Originally posted by: Canai
look yourself up online.

huh?

 

[SmoochyTX]

Originally posted by: Bill Anted
Okay, so I am filling out some applications and I get to the section that asks if I have ever been convicted of any crimes or if I have ever been convicted or involved in a misdem or felony, those type of things.

When I was 17, I received a disorderly conduct, and when I was in college, I got an underage.

The disorderly should have been removed when I turned 18. The underage was removed from my record because I agreed to go to classes through a community group.

The question is do I have to mention these two events?

I don't really understand the point of me going through the class and the alternative punishment to remove it from my record if I have to mention it. I really do not know what to do, and to be honest, since underage drinking is considered a summary offense, I don't even know if it is technically a crime.

Any lawyer, law enforcement or anyone with any experience willing to give me any advice?

As someone who works for a background check company, the first thing you should do is pull your own criminal record from the county(ies) involved. You need to make sure that what's on there is what is supposed to be on there.

As far as your application goes, if you were convicted as a minor you should not worry about it (with your charges that is). Those convictions are not made public.

If you did not complete any counseling etc and they remain you should definitely tell the truth on your app. With your convictions (if they show), you will not have any luck getting a driving job for any company so you shouldn't even waste your time applying.

When we screen applicants, those that lie are automatically tossed out by most of our customers. It doesn't matter if you fudged your work dates for a month or so to make it look like you weren't unemployed or if you fudged that you never filed a workers comp case.

But legally, if you were convicted as a minor and it is not to show on your record as an adult, your potential employer can not use that against you. It's actually illegal for the court to release that info unless there is special cause (which is unlikely). Thus, the reason for you to check your own criminal record.

Call up the District Clerk or the office in your county/borough that handles upper court cases in the county/borough you were convicted in and ask to see a copy of your criminal report. They'll point you in the right way. If something was supposed to be removed because of your age, you will have to begin the process then because things don't get automatically removed 'sometimes'.

If you have any questions, you can PM me and I'll help you out.

ETA - Only look yourself up online if you can access the county or state's official criminal database free of charge. Do not pay another company to do it. You can do it yourself for free or for usually under $5 by contacting the clerk in your county directly. Also, if you use a database online that is not county/state governed, it is usually around 40% incorrect.

ETAA - If you were convicted of an underage as an adult (18+), chances are that you won't have a problem getting the job as long as you're truthful on your application (and that you aren't applying for a driving job).

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: Bill Anted
Okay, so I am filling out some applications and I get to the section that asks if I have ever been convicted of any crimes or if I have ever been convicted or involved in a misdem or felony, those type of things.

When I was 17, I received a disorderly conduct, and when I was in college, I got an underage.

The disorderly should have been removed when I turned 18. The underage was removed from my record because I agreed to go to classes through a community group.

The question is do I have to mention these two events?

I don't really understand the point of me going through the class and the alternative punishment to remove it from my record if I have to mention it. I really do not know what to do, and to be honest, since underage drinking is considered a summary offense, I don't even know if it is technically a crime.

Any lawyer, law enforcement or anyone with any experience willing to give me any advice?

As someone who works for a background check company, the first thing you should do is pull your own criminal record from the county(ies) involved. You need to make sure that what's on there is what is supposed to be on there.

As far as your application goes, if you were convicted as a minor you should not worry about it (with your charges that is). Those convictions are not made public.

If you did not complete any counseling etc and they remain you should definitely tell the truth on your app. With your convictions (if they show), you will not have any luck getting a driving job for any company so you shouldn't even waste your time applying.

When we screen applicants, those that lie are automatically tossed out by most of our customers. It doesn't matter if you fudged your work dates for a month or so to make it look like you weren't unemployed or if you fudged that you never filed a workers comp case.

But legally, if you were convicted as a minor and it is not to show on your record as an adult, your potential employer can not use that against you. It's actually illegal for the court to release that info unless there is special cause (which is unlikely). Thus, the reason for you to check your own criminal record.

Call up the District Clerk or the office in your county/borough that handles upper court cases in the county/borough you were convicted in and ask to see a copy of your criminal report. They'll point you in the right way. If something was supposed to be removed because of your age, you will have to begin the process then because things don't get automatically removed 'sometimes'.

If you have any questions, you can PM me and I'll help you out.

ETA - Only look yourself up online if you can access the county or state's official criminal database free of charge. Do not pay another company to do it. You can do it yourself for free or for usually under $5 by contacting the clerk in your county directly. Also, if you use a database online that is not county/state governed, it is usually around 40% incorrect.

ETAA - If you were convicted of an underage as an adult (18+), chances are that you won't have a problem getting the job as long as you're truthful on your application (and that you aren't applying for a driving job).

I find it so rediculous that you can still be underage even after you are no longer a minor.

 

[Bill Anted]

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: Bill Anted
Okay, so I am filling out some applications and I get to the section that asks if I have ever been convicted of any crimes or if I have ever been convicted or involved in a misdem or felony, those type of things.

When I was 17, I received a disorderly conduct, and when I was in college, I got an underage.

The disorderly should have been removed when I turned 18. The underage was removed from my record because I agreed to go to classes through a community group.

The question is do I have to mention these two events?

I don't really understand the point of me going through the class and the alternative punishment to remove it from my record if I have to mention it. I really do not know what to do, and to be honest, since underage drinking is considered a summary offense, I don't even know if it is technically a crime.

Any lawyer, law enforcement or anyone with any experience willing to give me any advice?

As someone who works for a background check company, the first thing you should do is pull your own criminal record from the county(ies) involved. You need to make sure that what's on there is what is supposed to be on there.

As far as your application goes, if you were convicted as a minor you should not worry about it (with your charges that is). Those convictions are not made public.

If you did not complete any counseling etc and they remain you should definitely tell the truth on your app. With your convictions (if they show), you will not have any luck getting a driving job for any company so you shouldn't even waste your time applying.

When we screen applicants, those that lie are automatically tossed out by most of our customers. It doesn't matter if you fudged your work dates for a month or so to make it look like you weren't unemployed or if you fudged that you never filed a workers comp case.

But legally, if you were convicted as a minor and it is not to show on your record as an adult, your potential employer can not use that against you. It's actually illegal for the court to release that info unless there is special cause (which is unlikely). Thus, the reason for you to check your own criminal record.

Call up the District Clerk or the office in your county/borough that handles upper court cases in the county/borough you were convicted in and ask to see a copy of your criminal report. They'll point you in the right way. If something was supposed to be removed because of your age, you will have to begin the process then because things don't get automatically removed 'sometimes'.

If you have any questions, you can PM me and I'll help you out.

ETA - Only look yourself up online if you can access the county or state's official criminal database free of charge. Do not pay another company to do it. You can do it yourself for free or for usually under $5 by contacting the clerk in your county directly. Also, if you use a database online that is not county/state governed, it is usually around 40% incorrect.

ETAA - If you were convicted of an underage as an adult (18+), chances are that you won't have a problem getting the job as long as you're truthful on your application (and that you aren't applying for a driving job).

Thank you kindly for the info. The applications are actually for grad school, so the driving thing is not going to be an issue. I have had criminal background checks before for jobs, however, they always ask about misdem and felonies... which I have never had anything to do with. It is because the application says criminal offenses and I assume that underages count as a criminal offense.

Thanks again.

 

[minendo]

The underage was removed from my record because I agreed to go to classes through a community group.

If you signed a diversion agreement and completed the terms of that agreement you were never convicted. Therefore, you do not have to mention it.