advice on losing 15-20 in 6 weeks

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Kremlar

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Looking for advice on losing some weight, without sacrificing muscle.

My exercise routine consists of basically 3-4 nights of brazilian jiu-jitsu every week. Pretty heavy warmup (jogging, ab exercises, squats, push ups) before every class for 15-20 mins or so, then some drills, then mid to heavy rolling for 10-20 mins at the end of class. Total class time is typically 1.5 hours to 2 hours depending on how long I stay after to roll, etc.

I also do some dumbell work when I have time at home. Also taking my dog for walks when I can. Just started jogging a bit in the AM but jogging is not my thing. A mile or so is a struggle, does not feel good on my legs/knees. This may be weight related, but even when I was much younger/thinner jogging never felt natural to me.

I had a gym membership but getting there was tough, and I decided I'd rather focus my time at BJJ and exercise at home instead.

Currently at 214 lbs or so, maybe a pound or 2 less (weighed each AM). Was 226 or so a few weeks ago. 41 years old. I carry my weight all over - not a huge gut, I'm fairly proportional at 5'10". My vice is food - love to eat.

To lose the weight I've lost so far I've upped my exercise (up from 1-2 BJJ classes per week), plus adding the walking and jogging. Time is limited for me as I have a family and own my own small business. I'm fitting things in where I can.

For diet I'm doing the following:

- Breakfast is oatmeal with blueberries & cinnamon, small glass of OJ. Sometimes I'll make myself an egg (2 eggs) and ham sandwich on toasted bread instead of oatmeal, but only once or twice per week.

- Lunch usually a salad and chicken breast, sometimes cooked veggies and chicken.

- Dinner I try to eat on the lighter side, whatever my wife is cooking. On BJJ nights I don't often feel overly hungry after class so instead of dinner I typically drink a protein shake which fills me up - this would be at 7:45pm or so depending on when class ends.

- I'm not snacking much between meals. I do eat a Power Bar before BJJ class which keeps my energy level up.

- For drinks I'm drinking lots of water 95% of the time. I also usually have a low calorie drink with my lunch (Kevita). Sometimes when I crave something other than water I'll mix cranberry juice and water, but not often.

- I've cut afternoon ice coffees, Coke, most fruit juices, heavy lunches, heavy dinners, snacking, and bagel sandwiches out of my diet.

Honestly I'm actually pretty OK with my diet so far. I thought I'd miss everything I cut, but my energy level is pretty good and I don't feel like I'm starving myself.

I don't think the protein shakes at 7:45pm are very good for my diet, but I don't like eating much other than a Power Bar before BJJ so not sure what options I have.

I'm hoping to drop another 15-20 pounds in about 6 weeks. I'm aiming to compete in my first BJJ tournament middle of October, and would love to be in the under 200 lb class.

Any advice appreciated!
 

Genx87

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My experience with protein shakes is you better be working out enough to consume those calories or you will gain weight quickly. And even if you do consume those calories you can still gain weight in muscle mass.

Im in the same boat as you. 5'10" ~235. I am cutting out lunch completely and upping my output at night in the weight room. Also not eating anything after 7 PM.

Just started doing this 2 weeks ago. Down a few pounds already ~230 right now. Hoping by next spring to be under 200.
 

Kremlar

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Thanks for the reply. I agree on the protein shakes. The ones I'm drinking aren't huge - I'm a fan of the Odwalla shakes. Taste good and fill me up just enough, and they're not too big. Since I'm using them to replace dinner on my BJJ days I think if anything I may be starving myself a bit.

Are you sure it's a good idea to cut out lunch? From what I understand it's better to eat more earlier in the day than later. I know if I cut out lunch I'd be starving at dinner time and would probably binge.

Good luck with your weight loss goals!
 

Genx87

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Not sure if it is wise to cut it out. But it is my easiest meal to skip. I have been eating more protein based breakfasts which keep me full until later afternoon. We will see what happens. Thanks, and good luck to you as well!
 

Kremlar

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Although not overly appetizing, a serving of oatmeal definitely keeps me fuller than I thought it would. Adding blueberries and cinnamon help quite a bit with the taste. I heard crushed bananas is good too.
 

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OP: read this

Read that and then follow on to read some of the other pages on the site.

Everybody has a different opinion about weight loss, but after reading that site, I'm convinced he is on to something.

Short summary: skip breakfast, not lunch. The purpose of this is to allow your body to remain in the fasting state as long as possible. If possible, exercise on an empty stomach. You don't have to eat first thing in the morning, you don't have to eat 3 times per day.

Why? Because insulin causes obesity. Eating 3 regularly spaced meals per day ensures that your body has a constantly high level of insulin, which causes insulin resistance. Insulin resistance is what causes your body to gravitate towards a higher weight.
 

z1ggy

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God, there are so many threads here, including the sticky, that outline this very topic.

My simple advice is the same to everybody, and I leave it up to them to custom tailor their routine: Find out how many calories you burn every day, and eat slightly less than that, for a long period of time. If you are trying to lose more weight in a shorter period of time, make that deficit higher. Lift heavy weight 3-4x a week, mostly all compound movements.

All the minor details like eating frequency, yadda yadda play a much less important role than the above. I am a big proponent of skipping breakfast and having just 2, maybe 3 large meals a day, but honestly... there's plenty of low fat, high muscle guys out there who never did this.
 

Scarpozzi

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God, there are so many threads here, including the sticky, that outline this very topic.

My simple advice is the same to everybody, and I leave it up to them to custom tailor their routine: Find out how many calories you burn every day, and eat slightly less than that, for a long period of time. If you are trying to lose more weight in a shorter period of time, make that deficit higher. Lift heavy weight 3-4x a week, mostly all compound movements.

All the minor details like eating frequency, yadda yadda play a much less important role than the above. I am a big proponent of skipping breakfast and having just 2, maybe 3 large meals a day, but honestly... there's plenty of low fat, high muscle guys out there who never did this.

Agreed. I'd see how much fat you have to lose to start with. Start with body composition and see if you can find out how many pounds of fat stores you have. There are scales that give you a rough estimate percentage or you can get someone to use the calipers on you. My scale actually tells me percentage body fat and daily maintenance calories. If you figure a pound is 3500 calories, you can plan your workouts to put yourself in a calorie deficit to lose weight. I don't recommend doing more than 12 lbs in 6 weeks...

I use MyFitnessPal and track my runs/calories burned with Garmin Connect.

For me, I need about 3600 calories to maintain my weight of 215. I'm on an 1800 calorie diet, but eat up to 2300-2500 depending on days that I run or workout hard enough to burn 500-2000 calories. (long runs) Find what works for you, but remember water weight fluctuates and that can be caused by too much sodium intake AND inflammation from working out too hard and not allowing enough time for rest.
 

Kremlar

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All the minor details like eating frequency, yadda yadda play a much less important role than the above.

Agreed. But, I've already found a routine that is working for me and what I'm looking for ARE minor tweaks. Every ounce counts in my case, at least until next month, because 1 ounce could be the difference between me being in the 200lb weight class or the 224lb class.

I'd rather be in the 200lb class. :)
 

WhoBeDaPlaya

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God, there are so many threads here, including the sticky, that outline this very topic.

My simple advice is the same to everybody, and I leave it up to them to custom tailor their routine: Find out how many calories you burn every day, and eat slightly less than that, for a long period of time. If you are trying to lose more weight in a shorter period of time, make that deficit higher. Lift heavy weight 3-4x a week, mostly all compound movements.

All the minor details like eating frequency, yadda yadda play a much less important role than the above. I am a big proponent of skipping breakfast and having just 2, maybe 3 large meals a day, but honestly... there's plenty of low fat, high muscle guys out there who never did this.
+1

I don't recommend doing more than 12 lbs in 6 weeks...
You can, if you were pretty hefty to begin with. A good guideline is 1% of weight.
 
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z1ggy

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Agreed. But, I've already found a routine that is working for me and what I'm looking for ARE minor tweaks. Every ounce counts in my case, at least until next month, because 1 ounce could be the difference between me being in the 200lb weight class or the 224lb class.

I'd rather be in the 200lb class. :)

Training for NAGA I assume? If so, PM me (if you want any quick weight loss tips) because I used to do this.

Really the only minor details that I Think make a difference are macronutrients and sodium intake. Meal timing... Eh, I know there'sresearch showing that IF and lower meal frequency can be more beneficial, but I'm not 100% convinced yet. I do it because it forces me to eat less, because eating in a shorter window allows you to only consume so much. It's more of an insurance policy that I'm ever able to over eat.

Anyway, for macro's I'd stick to about .8-1g/lb body weight for protein, and about .4g/lb body weight for fat, and the remainder of calories go to carbs.
 

SP33Demon

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Get Myfitnesspal, and check the macro tab to see if you're getting enough protein. If you are (1gram/lb), then stop the protein shake. Also, lift compound movements.
 

Kremlar

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Training for NAGA I assume? If so, PM me (if you want any quick weight loss tips) because I used to do this.

Sorry, I stopped receiving notifications on this for some reason. Will PM you!
 

Kremlar

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Just an update after about a month.

This AM after a 1.5 mile jog I weighed in at 201. Still a few to go to safely weigh in at 200 with shorts on, etc. but I have more than a couple weeks to get that done.

Sticking to my diet pretty well, with a few cheat days in there. Cheat days seemed to help in the grand scheme of things - the day after is a bit depressing, but I would always spike down a couple days later. I think it must kick my metabolism into gear.

I was focusing too much on diet. Still attending BJJ class but noticed my strength dropping. A couple weeks ago I started adding in weight lifting at home and seem to have compensated.

I feel good now, strength is decent, cardio is very good for me - just being able to jog 1.5 miles is huge for me. Definitely much less winded at BJJ after warmups and rolling sessions.

This diet, exercise and BJJ is changing my life and I hope to make it permanent. Maybe not so strict on the diet once I reach my goal weight, but definitely 80% of it.
 

Carson Dyle

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You weigh yourself _after_ exercising? You don't also wear one of those vinyl suits and spit into a cup, do you?
 

Kremlar

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You weigh yourself _after_ exercising? You don't also wear one of those vinyl suits and spit into a cup, do you?

Haha, this AM I did. Usually weigh myself in the AM after a nice long pee. I take my wedding ring off too. ;)
 
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