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sdifox

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Yes got a new pair, the reason why I was wondering is because I've done this with other speakers and they have been ok, just thought it may have been the speakers, cause I have been running some yamahas on the same receiver at the same levels and they are fine, these wharfdales are a better sounding speaker so I'm just frustrated that's all, so out of curiosity how do you run speakers in??

I listen to music. I don't know what happened with your new speakers, could have been a bad unit.

I think run-in is an excuse for you to get used to the sound of the speaker and not that the speakers will sound much different after run-in.
 

TJ 2

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So could it be anything to do with amplifier RMS power not being able to handle the speakers RMS power??
 

sdifox

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So could it be anything to do with amplifier RMS power not being able to handle the speakers RMS power??

ignore the rating on the speaker, that doesn't mean a whole lot. It is all about your amp. Do not drive your speakers past your amp's ability to drive them. Just because speaker A can be driven by your amp at -30db doesn't mean it can do the same with speaker B.

Look at the sensitivity rating of your speakers. Higher efficiency speakers require less power to deliver x db compared to a less efficient speaker.


http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/how-to-explain-speaker-sensitivity.htm
 

TJ 2

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Ok, just thought it may have been a power issue cause I forgot to mention that the amp was overheating?? The speakers are 6ohm??
 

sdifox

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Ok, just thought it may have been a power issue cause I forgot to mention that the amp was overheating?? The speakers are 6ohm??

then you are overdriving. turn down the volume before you burn out more speakers. How well ventilated is the receiver? They need to breath.

lower sensitivity speakers need bigger amps.
 

TJ 2

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Ok so the reason I didn't overdrive the yamaha speakers at the same volumes is because they are not as sensitive? So to run these wharfdales at higher volumes I need a more powerful amp??
 

sdifox

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Ok so the reason I didn't overdrive the yamaha speakers at the same volumes is because they are not as sensitive? So to run these wharfdales at higher volumes I need a more powerful amp??

the Yamahas are probably more sensitive than these. So it takes less effort for the amp to drive them to a certain sound pressure level. Assuming that is correct, then yes, you need more powerful amp to drive the wharfdales to the same sound levels of the Yamahas.
 

TJ 2

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Ok thanks I understand, it's just annoying because the sound quality treble and bass is heaps better in the wharfdales.
 

NutBucket

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Listen to sdifox. There's really nothing more to add. You're expecting too much from a low-end receiver.
 

alcoholbob

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The first 2.1 "satellite-sub" systems were bookshelf based, so yes, a 6.5" monitor is a satellite.
 

TJ 2

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Yes, I'm not doubting peoples knowledge just wanted to know what everyone thinks.
 

TJ 2

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So for the people behind the theory that you need to run speakers in, does anyone know what the actual process is?
 

kornphlake

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The idea of breaking in speakers comes from the fact that the driver suspension has a certain amount of stiffness when new that will decrease as the cone is cycled through it's usable range. Those who recommend breaking in a speaker typically do so by playing music for several hours continuously at a volume comparable to a typical conversation. Some people play frequency sweeps to ensure the speaker is broken in at all frequencies evenly but I don't really think it matters, to be honest I don't think speakers need to be broken in.