Advice on a really loud northbridge fan

brikis98

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My system:

MSI Neo4-f s939 motherboard
A64 x2 3800+ @ 2.5Ghz
2x1GB Mushkin DDR 500
MSI x1900xtx

I recently installed a fan controller and noticed that when i set my 4 case fans to low, there was still some obnoxiously loud fan running... as it turns out, it was the TINY northbridge fan on this motherboard... i now sometimes leave my computer on at night, so this extra noise is quite annoying...

can any1 recommend a CHEAP but QUIET replacement? there's one catch however: my video card is very long, so it ends up hanging right over the northbridge hsf, so there's very little vertical room...
 

John

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Works fine, cheap, and DFI recommended :thumbsup:

The fans on those Neo4 MSI boards are pathetic.
 

brikis98

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Originally posted by: John
Works fine, cheap, and DFI recommended :thumbsup:

The fans on those Neo4 MSI boards are pathetic.

and it will fit the MSI mobo?
 

John

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Nah, I was just recommending a random HSF that would not work on your board. :evil:
 

brikis98

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Originally posted by: John
Nah, I was just recommending a random HSF that would not work on your board. :evil:

haha, fine fine, stupid question... i just saw it as "DFI recommended" everywhere, wasn't sure that meant anything in regards to MSI :)

one last question: is $13 shipped a good price for this thing?
 

John

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Maybe you can do a search and let us know. :cool:

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brikis98

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it's a tad bit cheaper on newegg, who i know and love, so i ordered from them... thx for the help :)
 

John

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You're welcome. I saw this in one of the NE reviews:

Other Thoughts: I went to go put it on the Northbridge and discovered the pins were not far enough distance appart to mount on my MSI Nforce4 K8N Neo4-F motherboard. Sadly unable to currentlly use it, I will save it till I can either modify/make a new mounting strip with the correct mounting distance parts, or wait till I need to use it on a VGA card/new motherboard.

Weird because they work for me. Hopefully it works for you. :D

 

brikis98

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wow, newegg ships mighty fast... i got the new hsf today and... man, that was not fun to install:

1. i didn't realize that to take off a northbridge hsf, you have to remove the mobo and hence take the whole computer apart. that took a while and in the end, i was too lazy to hook up the front audio panel again (tiny friggin connectors are a PITA to deal with).
2. once i got the original northbridge hsf off, i noticed that whatever thermal compound was used between it and the northbridge chip would NOT wash off with rubbing alcohol... i doused it in alcohol and literally had to scrape it off with my fingernail and still couldn't get it off all the way...
3. then i realized that the new hsf is just a bit too big... it slightly gets in the way of a plastic thing from the PCIEx16 slot, makes slight contact with the huge x1900xtx i have in there
4. to make matters worse, the retention mechanism of the new hsf was too small! the plastic inserts that go through the mobo weren't far enough apart by about a 1mm and it wouldn't stay in
5. the everest thermal compound i used came out in a HUGE quantity the first time, so i got waaay to much on the northbridge chip and had to spend a while cleaning that off

what a nightmare! however, i worked out a solution that seems to be doing the trick (knock on wood!):

1. i removed the plastic inserts from the new hsf and replaced them with the longer, rubber ones from the old one, so they barely reach now
2. i broke off a piece of that plastic PCIEx16 clip to make room (it has no real function, so it's not a big deal)
3. i placed the video card on top which helps keep the hsf in place, although it's by no means "perfect"

hopefully, this solution will work... it's def. quieter and seems to be running, so i guess there's either a good margin for error with this or the northbridge controller just doesn't get that hot. the issue i have now is that the MSI core center, which used to report my mobo's northbridge temperature, no longer does so (it just says N/A), although it does show the northbridge fan turning at a bit under 5000rpm... so, either the everest hsf doesn't report a temp or core center is unable to read it... speed fan has a couple of temps that i can't identify, one of 19C and one of 22C... neither of those seem to be high enough for a northbridge unit, but i'm not sure. i also don't see the temperature in EVEREST, so i just don't know for sure.

any1 know a full-proof way to check the northbridge temperature? should i be worried that my solution isn't ideal or if the computer has been working fine for an hour (incl. some gaming), i'm prob ok?

edit: ran prime95 for a while without any issues... hopefully all is well, although earlier on i did have a random lockup... :confused:
 

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My fan was loud after 6 months so I called MSI and got them to send me a new one. I took the fan off of the HSF and put the new fan on there and it was noticeably quieter. I put a Zalman resistor between the fan and the mobo to drop it down to 5.5 volts. Now it runs at around 4200 RPM (instead of 5800 RPM) and it's pretty quiet and there is no perceived temp change (it runs around 33-36 C, no OCing). I also left the fan completely off for a whole night one time. Although the machine was mostly idle, I didn't see a temp change from being idle with the fan working.

According to MSI, the NB temp is the "Sys Tmp" in Core Center. If it's not showing there like it was before, then I imagine one of the scenarios you outlined is true. I too have two sensors that read 19 and 22 C. I have no clue what they go to, but it's a pretty good bet they're not near the NB.

Crappy fan and even crappier positioning of the fan. Those are the only things I hate about this otherwise nice mobo. Sorry to hear you went through so much trouble. I imagine I have something like that waiting for me if this fan ever goes.
 

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brikis98, I guess I overlooked the small things I do to get these fans to work on the Neo 4's because it's been a while since I've replaced one but I was going from memory. :eek: However I am pleased to see that you got it to work, and without a doubt you have a higher quality HSF on there now. As long as it's secured to the PCB and you used a thin layer of grease, I don't think you have anthing to worry about. It can't be any worse than the POS that was on there. :p
 

brikis98

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yeah, just enjoyed a good hour of gaming with no issues. it seems my half-assed busted solution is STILL better than the stock :)