Advice Needed "Judgement" all opinions or comments welcome.

Epoman

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Ok here's the story 10 years ago I bought this POS used car and was charged 23% interest (I was new to credit with no experience or credit history and needed a car badly) and the car died after a few months and the warrenty was only 30 days. Anyway the finace company and I went back and forth until finally it went to a judgment, we went to court and they got a judgment against me. Well I never paid the judgment and they never came after me to collect. During this time I had major medical problems became permanently disabled. So cut to 5 years later I get a letter from them saying pay us or we will be forced to use other means to collect. So I called and I talked to the finance manager for the company and after 1 hour on the phone with him explaining the situation (No money, I collect SS disabilty, have a new son to support, and many medical problems) and him relating with me the same problems his mother faced (End Stage Renal Disease) He told not to worry the company will write off the amount as a loss and to take care of myself and stay strong.

Ok cut to 5 more years later, I have not heard nothing from the company in all this time, But I get letter handed to me from a lady at my door (basically serving me) and I open it and it's just a copy of a receipt that the company renewed the judgment at the court. No demand for the money just a copy of the money ($7.00) they paid to renew the judgment.

Now 6 months later I still have not heard nothing.

Well my life is better, a little money coming in, wife has a good job now and I have excellent credit even with the judgment I score at least 750+ on all 3 agencys. But in the 18 months it took my with to land her new job (holding out for a good paying, stable job) we used credit cards to survive, well I have been paying them off and getting out of debt. and will be out of debt within 8 months.

Well this is why I'm worried, I was reading on a site that they could garnish my wifes wages? or hold my federal tax refund? but I'm not sure they are even going to try that because I was told by the guy it would be written off, plus all these years have passed and they haven't done so yet. And I can't call the guy I forgot his name and lost the paperwork. And I don't want to open a can of worms and call the company.

I was planning to use the tax refund to help pay off my credit card bills. I was talking to loan officer and he told me if I want to buy a house in the future I will need to pay off the judgment which was originally $2,000 but is now (as of 6 months ago) $4,000 due to interest. Since they renewed it, it won't fall off my credit report. It will be on there for another 10 years. I plan to pay it off now since they renewed it, as I am forced to pay even though I was told it would be written off. But I am not ready to pay off for another 8-10 months.

So should I worry about this? do you think they will take my refund this year? (they haven't in 10 years) or garnish my wifes wages? (they haven't in 10 years). But like I said I am worried this year because the renewed it in 2003 but 6 months have passed and I've heard nothing. If they were not going to try to collect why renew?

Any opinions and advice is appreciated. I mean honestly the guy (manager) at the finance company told me not to worry about it, that it would be written off. That is why I never worried about paying it until now when I got that copy of the receipt (6 months ago) showing it has been renewed.
 

mcvickj

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Well I am no credit expert but if you pay it off now won't it hurt your score because the account has been in delinquency for so long?
 

Epoman

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Originally posted by: mcvickj
Well I am no credit expert but if you pay it off now won't it hurt your score because the account has been in delinquency for so long?

Well I still score high because it is OLD and over the years the older it got the higher my score went up. If I pay it off it will just show that it is a paid judgment, but my score won't be affected much. BUT it will stay on the reports for another 10 years.
 
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Originally posted by: mcvickj
Well I am no credit expert but if you pay it off now won't it hurt your score because the account has been in delinquency for so long?

paying a debt can hurt your credit score? wtf
 

mcvickj

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Originally posted by: quakefiend420
Originally posted by: mcvickj
Well I am no credit expert but if you pay it off now won't it hurt your score because the account has been in delinquency for so long?

paying a debt can hurt your credit score? wtf

Like I said I'm no expert. I thought I remember reading something like that. I will have to see if I can find the link.

Of course it's money you owe so you should pay it.
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: quakefiend420
Originally posted by: mcvickj
Well I am no credit expert but if you pay it off now won't it hurt your score because the account has been in delinquency for so long?

paying a debt can hurt your credit score? wtf

Old accounts affect your credit score less than active accounts. They aren't even counted into your credit score after 7-10 years. This account is 10+ years old, with no activity. As soon as he makes a payment, it becomes active again, and is counted as a brand new delinquent account.
 

Epoman

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
Originally posted by: mcvickj
Well I am no credit expert but if you pay it off now won't it hurt your score because the account has been in delinquency for so long?

paying a debt can hurt your credit score? wtf

Old accounts affect your credit score less than active accounts. They aren't even counted into your credit score after 7-10 years. This account is 10+ years old, with no activity. As soon as he makes a payment, it becomes active again, and is counted as a brand new delinquent account.

Well as soon as they renewed it, it will/may be counted as a new account or am I wrong about that. For example the report shows 93 as the acct open and last activity was 98 when they contacted me the last time. and then now it will show 03 when I got the letter at my house. I know If I make a payment it will counted as new but does it if they renew it?

 

Turkish

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Hmm, I don`t know much about the subject but I wish you good luck Epoman :) :beer: I hope all goes well!
 

Epoman

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Originally posted by: The Boss
Hmm, I don`t know much about the subject but I wish you good luck Epoman :) :beer: I hope all goes well!

That's very nice of you thanks alot.

I plan to pay it I was just hoping to be able to pay in 8-10 months. Seriously it's the first time in 10 years where my finances have gotten better and I will be out of debt. It's been a long road for my wife and I with all my medical problems, It's too bad that finally my finances are turning around for the better, my health is getting worse. :(

But anyway thanks for the kind words. :beer::D:beer:
 

FlyLice

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All that for a measly $2000 original payment?!?!?!?!?! WTF ARE YOU THINKING?!?

And it's only $4000 now. Dude, you owe them money. PAY IT.
 

jjones

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Personally, what I would do is nothing for the moment. I'd begin setting aside bits of money for a rainy day until I've accumulated about half and if they ever do come collecting again, try to settle for the original amount of $2,000. If they never come collecting, well then you have some money in the bank for a rainy day.

I always apply the rule, if it ain't broke, don't fix it; don't kick a sleeping dog, etc. In this case, no action is required by you, but it never hurts to get yourself a little prepared if they ever do come calling.
 

digitalsm

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Judgements lapse every ten years depending on the state. Judgements can be renewed until the debt is paid or the debtor is dead.

They would have to go to court to garnish you wifes wages or take you tax refund. They arent going to do either, but they will renew this judgement until you pay it, because they know you will eventually have to.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
Originally posted by: mcvickj
Well I am no credit expert but if you pay it off now won't it hurt your score because the account has been in delinquency for so long?
paying a debt can hurt your credit score? wtf
Old accounts affect your credit score less than active accounts. They aren't even counted into your credit score after 7-10 years. This account is 10+ years old, with no activity. As soon as he makes a payment, it becomes active again, and is counted as a brand new delinquent account.
Negative. This is not an account. This is a judgement, and shows up under the "Public Records" section of his credit report (along with bankruptcies and tax liens). Satisfying a judgement will not hurt your credit score.
You are thinking of collections. Sometimes paying off a very old collection can hurt your score. This is not a collection, this is a court-ordered judgement.

After all this time, I doubt that they would garnish your wages or tax refund. They could, but they would have to go back to the court to ask permission to do so, and that would cost them even more.
The loan officer you were talking to was correct though. You will not be able to buy a house until you pay this off. A $4k judgement is not something that mortgage lenders will ignore, regardless of how old it is. They will want proof of satisfaction.
 

Epoman

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Originally posted by: FlyLice
All that for a measly $2000 original payment?!?!?!?!?! WTF ARE YOU THINKING?!?

And it's only $4000 now. Dude, you owe them money. PAY IT.

:roll:

I guess you can't read.
 

Epoman

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Originally posted by: jjones
Personally, what I would do is nothing for the moment. I'd begin setting aside bits of money for a rainy day until I've accumulated about half and if they ever do come collecting again, try to settle for the original amount of $2,000. If they never come collecting, well then you have some money in the bank for a rainy day.

I always apply the rule, if it ain't broke, don't fix it; don't kick a sleeping dog, etc. In this case, no action is required by you, but it never hurts to get yourself a little prepared if they ever do come calling.

Yes, I will offer them a lower amount to settle just not right now. Thanks for the advice.


I always apply the rule, if it ain't broke, don't fix it; don't kick a sleeping dog, etc. In this case, no action is required by you <-- Good advice.

Thanks. :)
 

Epoman

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Judgements lapse every ten years depending on the state. Judgements can be renewed until the debt is paid or the debtor is dead.

They would have to go to court to garnish you wifes wages or take you tax refund. They arent going to do either, but they will renew this judgement until you pay it, because they know you will eventually have to.


I thought in California they could only renew 10,10,10 then that's it. I plan to pay it. I'm just curious.