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Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
Originally posted by: Skoorb
How much will it cost, did anybody tell you...?

I would guess that will run you about 2,000 - 3,000 dollars.

2000-3000! holy cow, I thought it's less than $1000. I will get some estimates from some masoners first. Then decide what to do.
 
Originally posted by: rh71
This borders on speeding ticket issues on AT. If someone is caught between a 35mph and a 40mph limit sign... ATOTers would jump on him and say "be responsible and own up to your actions". Meanwhile, he could technically still be under the limit where he was physically marked on the gun.

This isn't to say he's right or wrong but there ARE gray areas that you may get by, completely legal. It's not like this guy hasn't contributed to that fee he's speaking of... it's not like he's looking for a free ride out...

running your car into a wall and expecting someone else to foot the bill is nothing like being caught between a 35 mph and 40 mph zone.

condo fees are not for carelessness (and i HAVE owned a condo in the past and my boss at my former job dealt with yahoos like this in the past, he was head of his condo board while i worked there. things like this are apparently not uncommon) and he IS trying to get a free ride, otherwise he'd own up to what his GF did and not try to get out of paying for it.

had the wall cracked under pressure or because it was poorly built or because of the weather or whatever else that wasn't directly caused by driving a car into it then it would be a valid question. those are things covered under maintenance.
 
Originally posted by: welst10
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: welst10
Originally posted by: Gibson486
no

Then what am I paying the $185/mp for?
Again, you are seriously fvcking serious about this? I can't believe you want us to spell this out to you.


Yes, I am serious. One of my friends (who is also a condo owner) thinks the association should repair it. of course I will repair the door. The monthly fee we pay contributes to a maintanance fund and pay for condo complex insurance. have you owned a condo before?
Getting enough idiots together to demonstrate consensus on a ludicrous idea in order to help justify it is for Congress not real life...
 
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: rh71
This borders on speeding ticket issues on AT. If someone is caught between a 35mph and a 40mph limit sign... ATOTers would jump on him and say "be responsible and own up to your actions". Meanwhile, he could technically still be under the limit where he was physically marked on the gun.

This isn't to say he's right or wrong but there ARE gray areas that you may get by, completely legal. It's not like this guy hasn't contributed to that fee he's speaking of... it's not like he's looking for a free ride out...

running your car into a wall and expecting someone else to foot the bill is nothing like being caught between a 35 mph and 40 mph zone.

condo fees are not for carelessness (and i HAVE owned a condo in the past and my boss at my former job dealt with yahoos like this in the past, he was head of his condo board while i worked there. things like this are apparently not uncommon) and he IS trying to get a free ride, otherwise he'd own up to what his GF did and not try to get out of paying for it.
if I need to put it in a way so that you can understand the actual point of my posts, I will... refer to what Sampson said.
 
what a tool :roll: i wakeup thankful every morning because im not an idiot like the OP and people agreeing with him. with that said, carry on your worthless conversation that never should have been started...
 
Originally posted by: welst10
Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
Originally posted by: Skoorb
How much will it cost, did anybody tell you...?

I would guess that will run you about 2,000 - 3,000 dollars.

2000-3000! holy cow, I thought it's less than $1000. I will get some estimates from some masoners first. Then decide what to do.

you should coordinate with your condo mgmt people...they MAY have the right to specify who does the work (i.e., they don't want your uncle's brother's kid doing the repairs.)
 
You are clearly responsible for it. If you can't afford it right now, you could always see if the HOA can repair it, and then you pay it back over the course of a year or something.
 
make your stupid ass gf pay for it, or you pay for it, the condo ass should NOT BE PAYING FOR YOUR STUPID GFs INABILIY TO DRIVE

then teah her how to fvcking drive
 
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: rh71
This borders on speeding ticket issues on AT. If someone is caught between a 35mph and a 40mph limit sign... ATOTers would jump on him and say "be responsible and own up to your actions". Meanwhile, he could technically still be under the limit where he was physically marked on the gun.

This isn't to say he's right or wrong but there ARE gray areas that you may get by, completely legal. It's not like this guy hasn't contributed to that fee he's speaking of... it's not like he's looking for a free ride out...

running your car into a wall and expecting someone else to foot the bill is nothing like being caught between a 35 mph and 40 mph zone.

condo fees are not for carelessness (and i HAVE owned a condo in the past and my boss at my former job dealt with yahoos like this in the past, he was head of his condo board while i worked there. things like this are apparently not uncommon) and he IS trying to get a free ride, otherwise he'd own up to what his GF did and not try to get out of paying for it.
if I need to put it in a way so that you can understand the actual point of my posts, I will... refer to what Sampson said.

there's nothing to understand other than you like the OP think you can damage things and try to sneak out on a technicality. i've already responded and agreed with sampson. however, being a past condo owner and having read a contract i can tell you in my case this was not a gray area at all. and once again, unless the contract was written by a retarded circus chimp then he won't be covered for this.

saying he isn't trying to get a free ride is retarded. it's not like the wall developed the crack itself and he's asking the association to pay for it. he's clearly said his GF caused the damage, he's owning up to the damage to the door but doesn't want to pay for the wall, so he's hoping there's a loophole to get out of paying for it by calling it maintenance. i don't see how you can call this anything but trying to weasel out of personal responsibility.
 
Originally posted by: welst10
2000-3000! holy cow, I thought it's less than $1000. I will get some estimates from some masoners first. Then decide what to do.

Look closer at the pic, or go outside and look. The edge of the wall is actually pushed back. It's more than a couple of cosmetic bricks that got cracked.
 
Originally posted by: buck
Originally posted by: Jzero
I know it's early, but I'm gonna go ahead and nominate this thread for the "Stupidest question of the day" award.

Im thinking "Stupidest poster of the week!".

What a fsckin moron.

If you wreck your car, you shouldn't ask your insurance company to pay for it because it's your own fault. If you burn down your house, you should also pay out of your own pocket because it's your own fault. Do you fvcking understand the concept of insurance or condo association and association fee, and condo blanket insurance, smartass?

Thanks to those who actually offered advices. I will get estimates first. Might have to file a claim with my personal homeowner policy.
 
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: rh71
This borders on speeding ticket issues on AT. If someone is caught between a 35mph and a 40mph limit sign... ATOTers would jump on him and say "be responsible and own up to your actions". Meanwhile, he could technically still be under the limit where he was physically marked on the gun.

This isn't to say he's right or wrong but there ARE gray areas that you may get by, completely legal. It's not like this guy hasn't contributed to that fee he's speaking of... it's not like he's looking for a free ride out...

running your car into a wall and expecting someone else to foot the bill is nothing like being caught between a 35 mph and 40 mph zone.

condo fees are not for carelessness (and i HAVE owned a condo in the past and my boss at my former job dealt with yahoos like this in the past, he was head of his condo board while i worked there. things like this are apparently not uncommon) and he IS trying to get a free ride, otherwise he'd own up to what his GF did and not try to get out of paying for it.
if I need to put it in a way so that you can understand the actual point of my posts, I will... refer to what Sampson said.

there's nothing to understand other than you like the OP think you can damage things and try to sneak out on a technicality. i've already responded and agreed with sampson. however, being a past condo owner and having read a contract i can tell you in my case this was not a gray area at all. and once again, unless the contract was written by a retarded circus chimp then he won't be covered for this.

saying he isn't trying to get a free ride is retarded. it's not like the wall developed the crack itself and he's asking the association to pay for it. he's clearly said his GF caused the damage, he's owning up to the damage to the door but doesn't want to pay for the wall, so he's hoping there's a loophole to get out of paying for it by calling it maintenance. i don't see how you can call this anything but trying to weasel out of personal responsibility.
This is exactly what it's about - technicalities. I've personally never had to deal with "abusing" them myself... nor am I saying I would. I am ONLY saying that it depends on what is in his papers. Common sense, responsibility, all that stuff goes out the window if he wants an answer to his specific question. Most of AT like to point their goodie-goodie fingers at everyone else, so long as they're not in a particular situation themselves. They may be absolutely right in this case of course, never said they weren't. You can't tell me I'm the only one sick of that attitude though ... reason why I posted in the first place.
 
Originally posted by: welst10
Originally posted by: buck
Originally posted by: Jzero
I know it's early, but I'm gonna go ahead and nominate this thread for the "Stupidest question of the day" award.

Im thinking "Stupidest poster of the week!".

What a fsckin moron.

If you wreck your car, you shouldn't ask your insurance company to pay for it because it's your own fault. If you burn down your house, you should also pay out of your own pocket because it's your own fault. Do you fvcking understand the concept of insurance or condo association and association fee, and condo blanket insurance, smartass?

Thanks to those who actually offered advices. I will get estimates first. Might have to file a claim with my personal homeowner policy.

the first thing you should do is read your contract.

are you paying for condo insurance or condo association fees? all my condo fees paid for is garbage pickup, use of an overcrowded storage unit and the right for them to tell me my UGA doormat didn't fit "condo code". it didn't cover damage done by myself. however, if the railing rotted off on the stairs or the paint faded outside, that was covered by general maintenance.
 
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: rh71
This borders on speeding ticket issues on AT. If someone is caught between a 35mph and a 40mph limit sign... ATOTers would jump on him and say "be responsible and own up to your actions". Meanwhile, he could technically still be under the limit where he was physically marked on the gun.

This isn't to say he's right or wrong but there ARE gray areas that you may get by, completely legal. It's not like this guy hasn't contributed to that fee he's speaking of... it's not like he's looking for a free ride out...

running your car into a wall and expecting someone else to foot the bill is nothing like being caught between a 35 mph and 40 mph zone.

condo fees are not for carelessness (and i HAVE owned a condo in the past and my boss at my former job dealt with yahoos like this in the past, he was head of his condo board while i worked there. things like this are apparently not uncommon) and he IS trying to get a free ride, otherwise he'd own up to what his GF did and not try to get out of paying for it.
if I need to put it in a way so that you can understand the actual point of my posts, I will... refer to what Sampson said.

there's nothing to understand other than you like the OP think you can damage things and try to sneak out on a technicality. i've already responded and agreed with sampson. however, being a past condo owner and having read a contract i can tell you in my case this was not a gray area at all. and once again, unless the contract was written by a retarded circus chimp then he won't be covered for this.

saying he isn't trying to get a free ride is retarded. it's not like the wall developed the crack itself and he's asking the association to pay for it. he's clearly said his GF caused the damage, he's owning up to the damage to the door but doesn't want to pay for the wall, so he's hoping there's a loophole to get out of paying for it by calling it maintenance. i don't see how you can call this anything but trying to weasel out of personal responsibility.
This is exactly what it's about - technicalities. I've personally never had to deal with "abusing" them myself... nor am I saying I would. I am ONLY saying that it depends on what is in his papers. Common sense, responsibility, all that stuff goes out the window if he wants an answer to his specific question. Most of AT like to point their goodie-goodie fingers at everyone else, so long as they're not in a particular situation themselves. They may be absolutely right in this case of course, never said they weren't.


It's not like this guy hasn't contributed to that fee he's speaking of... it's not like he's looking for a free ride out...

since you don't have actual experience there's no point in discussing this with you anymore. 🙂 sorry for wasting my time replying.
 
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: rh71
This borders on speeding ticket issues on AT. If someone is caught between a 35mph and a 40mph limit sign... ATOTers would jump on him and say "be responsible and own up to your actions". Meanwhile, he could technically still be under the limit where he was physically marked on the gun.

This isn't to say he's right or wrong but there ARE gray areas that you may get by, completely legal. It's not like this guy hasn't contributed to that fee he's speaking of... it's not like he's looking for a free ride out...

running your car into a wall and expecting someone else to foot the bill is nothing like being caught between a 35 mph and 40 mph zone.

condo fees are not for carelessness (and i HAVE owned a condo in the past and my boss at my former job dealt with yahoos like this in the past, he was head of his condo board while i worked there. things like this are apparently not uncommon) and he IS trying to get a free ride, otherwise he'd own up to what his GF did and not try to get out of paying for it.
if I need to put it in a way so that you can understand the actual point of my posts, I will... refer to what Sampson said.

there's nothing to understand other than you like the OP think you can damage things and try to sneak out on a technicality. i've already responded and agreed with sampson. however, being a past condo owner and having read a contract i can tell you in my case this was not a gray area at all. and once again, unless the contract was written by a retarded circus chimp then he won't be covered for this.

saying he isn't trying to get a free ride is retarded. it's not like the wall developed the crack itself and he's asking the association to pay for it. he's clearly said his GF caused the damage, he's owning up to the damage to the door but doesn't want to pay for the wall, so he's hoping there's a loophole to get out of paying for it by calling it maintenance. i don't see how you can call this anything but trying to weasel out of personal responsibility.
This is exactly what it's about - technicalities. I've personally never had to deal with "abusing" them myself... nor am I saying I would. I am ONLY saying that it depends on what is in his papers. Common sense, responsibility, all that stuff goes out the window if he wants an answer to his specific question. Most of AT like to point their goodie-goodie fingers at everyone else, so long as they're not in a particular situation themselves. They may be absolutely right in this case of course, never said they weren't.


It's not like this guy hasn't contributed to that fee he's speaking of... it's not like he's looking for a free ride out...

since you don't have actual experience there's no point in discussing this with you anymore. 🙂 sorry for wasting my time replying.
Yes and all HOAs are exactly alike... thus making your experience better than mine. :roll:

You keep going back to that part - I'll explain it ... think of his mentality for a second.. he's ALREADY paying for something, does it actually cover my mistake also ? He even asked what it was for then (because he didn't know). That's not a free ride mentality.
 
Originally posted by: rh71
This borders on speeding ticket issues on AT. If someone is caught between a 35mph and a 40mph limit sign... ATOTers would jump on him and say "be responsible and own up to your actions". Meanwhile, he could technically still be under the limit where he was physically marked on the gun.

wtf? how does one get caught between a 35 mph and a 40 mph sign? are you saying you're going 40 in the 35?
 
I'm not going to say anything about payment cause I can't read your contract, but I find the picture very amusing.

There is a concrete block of some kind on the bottom left, so the only place your GF could have hit and caused the damage she did would have been right in the middle of the door.

Was she trying to kill you when you walked out the door?
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: rh71
This borders on speeding ticket issues on AT. If someone is caught between a 35mph and a 40mph limit sign... ATOTers would jump on him and say "be responsible and own up to your actions". Meanwhile, he could technically still be under the limit where he was physically marked on the gun.

wtf? how does one get caught between a 35 mph and a 40 mph sign? are you saying you're going 40 in the 35?
as long as you understood the point, that's all I was getting at. I didn't spend more than 10 seconds coming up with it.
 
Next week on The People's Court it's the case of "And the walls came tumbling down".

Was it your car or hers? If hers, you don't think your homeowners insurance company (or the condo's insurance co for that matter) will go after her and her insurance for her inability to drive without taking out walls?

Good Luck with that...
 
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: welst10
Originally posted by: buck
Originally posted by: Jzero
I know it's early, but I'm gonna go ahead and nominate this thread for the "Stupidest question of the day" award.

Im thinking "Stupidest poster of the week!".

What a fsckin moron.

If you wreck your car, you shouldn't ask your insurance company to pay for it because it's your own fault. If you burn down your house, you should also pay out of your own pocket because it's your own fault. Do you fvcking understand the concept of insurance or condo association and association fee, and condo blanket insurance, smartass?

Thanks to those who actually offered advices. I will get estimates first. Might have to file a claim with my personal homeowner policy.

the first thing you should do is read your contract.

are you paying for condo insurance or condo association fees? all my condo fees paid for is garbage pickup, use of an overcrowded storage unit and the right for them to tell me my UGA doormat didn't fit "condo code". it didn't cover damage done by myself. however, if the railing rotted off on the stairs or the paint faded outside, that was covered by general maintenance.

My monthly fee does contrinute to a big condo blanket insurance that only covers outside and common area.
 
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