Advice for a new card...

[SRoode]

If he doesn't overclock, he won't get all of his current 260. Also, he won't get all of his CPU to memory interface, he won't get all of his hard drive communication speed, he won't get a lot of overall speed increases. It's a given and we all know it.

The OP was concerned about 3 displays, and whether or not it would work with his current MB. You chimed in with OCing the CPU.

Going to a 5850 will work with his current setup, will play games better than what he currently has, and will run 3 displays.

If he wants more, he can OC if he wants. The difference in OCing the CPU will be negligible to the human eye when he plays his games.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: SRoode
If he doesn't overclock, he won't get all of his current 260. Also, he won't get all of his CPU to memory interface, he won't get all of his hard drive communication speed, he won't get a lot of overall speed increases. It's a given and we all know it.

The OP was concerned about 3 displays, and whether or not it would work with his current MB. You chimed in with OCing the CPU.

Going to a 5850 will work with his current setup, will play games better than what he currently has, and will run 3 displays.

If he wants more, he can OC if he wants. The difference in OCing the CPU will be negligible to the human eye when he plays his games.

you are being ridiculous now because your argument is changing. I said he would not get all a 5850 could do and you didnt believe it so now you have a different angle? those benchmarks clearly show that a Q6600 wouldnt come close to fully pushing a card like the 5850. again why buy a card of that level and not try to get the most out of it? no point in replying because you just dont get it.

 

[SRoode]

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: SRoode

Originally posted by: RussianSensation

Originally posted by: SRoode
Proof please. Every link I have seen with benchies for this card does not show it being held back at all. That is until crossfire, and only on some games.

Resident Evil 5 and Similar results here
GTA4
Anno1404
ArmA2

Obviously if you are gaming at 1920x1200 8AA, then the weight will shift almost entirely towards the videocard.

Thank you for proving my point. It's always over 60 fps regardless. The CPU "bottleneck" never comes into play unless the video card is about 6 years old, and you want to compare 90 vs 120 fps in low res.

OP - There is no need at this point to change out your CPU.

did you even LOOK at the those because I certainly do not see 60fps in all those benchmarks. faster cpus are getting TWICE the framerate as the Q6600 in some cases.

all we have been saying is that a card of that level will not be used to its full potential if he doesnt overclock the cpu. why buy a high end gpu and if you are not going to at least try to get the most out of it?

I did, and as I said, if you want to play in low-res, then these benchies are great, you may notice a difference when gaming. If you want to play in higher res with eye-candy, they really mean nothing. And, again, as I said, yo could get more overall system performance by OCing your CPU (I do). But, it is not really noticeable on the graphic front. It is much more noticeable on how your PC responds with everyday tasks. The CPU is playing a smaller and smaller part for gaming.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: SRoode

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: SRoode

Originally posted by: RussianSensation

Originally posted by: SRoode
Proof please. Every link I have seen with benchies for this card does not show it being held back at all. That is until crossfire, and only on some games.

Resident Evil 5 and Similar results here
GTA4
Anno1404
ArmA2

Obviously if you are gaming at 1920x1200 8AA, then the weight will shift almost entirely towards the videocard.

Thank you for proving my point. It's always over 60 fps regardless. The CPU "bottleneck" never comes into play unless the video card is about 6 years old, and you want to compare 90 vs 120 fps in low res.

OP - There is no need at this point to change out your CPU.

did you even LOOK at the those because I certainly do not see 60fps in all those benchmarks. faster cpus are getting TWICE the framerate as the Q6600 in some cases.

all we have been saying is that a card of that level will not be used to its full potential if he doesnt overclock the cpu. why buy a high end gpu and if you are not going to at least try to get the most out of it?

I did, and as I said, if you want to play in low-res, then these benchies are great, you may notice a difference when gaming. If you want to play in higher res with eye-candy, they really mean nothing. And, again, as I said, yo could get more overall system performance by OCing your CPU (I do). But, it is not really noticeable on the graphic front. It is much more noticeable on how your PC responds with everyday tasks. The CPU is playing a smaller and smaller part for gaming.

you are acting extremely ignorant now. first of all you said those benchmarks were all over 60fps which they are not. next the q6600 gives up half of what an i7 can do in many of those benchmarks too. the fact remains that overclocking the q6600 will help a lot with a high end card. also with faster and faster cards and games using more than 2 cores the cpu is becoming more important NOT less. hell a 5870 crossfire setup will already be bottlenecked at 1920 in some games by a highly overclocked i7. thats right a cpu that was getting TWICE what a Q6600 could do with slower cards getting hammered. so imagine how bad that Q6600 that is already holding back a 4870 or gtx285 would hold back a 5870 crossfire setup. please pull your head out of your butt because the cpu is not getting less important.

 

[SRoode]

I'm tired of this...

To the OP:
1) You will not have to change you MB to run the 5850.
2) Other options. Not really, with this many features (fast and DX11 support) and for the price.

If you feel you need to OC for more fps, then do it. IMO you don't for anything that is noticeable.

 

[TC91]

Originally posted by: rash219
Well I intitially had a 7600GT and to be honest that card didnt deserve a CPU overclock....but then again i never knew OCing the cpu would change the way the GPU worked. I will definately be doing some OCing when I get the 5850.

Just a quick question i was thinking of the cosmos1000 case do you think that its a good case for the HD5850 card using Air Cooling as i leave the computer on for lke over 12hrs a day.

Thanks for the quick reply...although it went kinda oftrack lol ;p

Please avoid the Cosmos 1000 case. It is a truly horrible, horrible case. First of all, it's horrible for air cooling as you only have one measly intake fan at the very bottom of the huge full tower case, yet you have three exhaust fans. You likely won't be getting good temps on air.

There is also no air intake for the hard drives, and believe me, your hard drives will COOK in that case, not even funny. The way they designed the hard drive bays just traps the heat from the hard drives in the hdd bays.

Furthermore, there is a TONNE of very very very cheap plastic on the case; very fragile and it causes an annoying creaking sound at random :disgust:. Coolermaster in general seems to love using a lot of cheap plastic on their cases.

The case does look nice though, and it is pretty quiet (once you replace or remove the very very crappy provided coolermaster fans) but I would very strongly recommend against it.