Advertising Execs Diss Ad Blockers

[JEDI]

Whats a good Chrome script blocker?

thought ad block plus also blocked scripts?

 

[slayer202]

If an ad were JUST an ad, I wouldn't be running ad blockers. But let's face it... ads aren't just ads anymore. They're spyware. They're demographic tracking. They're datamining. They're behavior tracking. They're a whole shitload of everything that's wrong all to monetize the person under the guise of just putting a simple ad in front of eyes.

If the money that was made off of monetizing me actually went to me, I'd be a little more okay with what's going on with advertising these days. But let's be honest, the general trend of price is item prices go up while you get less item meanwhile corporate revenues keep growing. So me, the consumer, the ad watcher, and also me the product keep losing more money in the process.

So until then I will control what I get to see because they will ultimately find a way to monetize me anyway.

which ESSENTIAL websites are doing these unsavory things? it's like saying, I don't like the potholes on this street, so I'm not gonna pay this toll. when there are a million different roads, the reasonable and fair decision is to say "I'll take a different street"

 

[slayer202]

oh, and ad blockers are probably expediting the day where ads will be truly obtrusive and impossible to block. thanks

 

[BoberFett]

They got greedy and let ad networks devolve into spyware infested, music blaring, plugin consuming garbage. I have no sympathy.

This. If ads were simply images, I'd have no problem allowing them. But ever since Punch The Monkey, advertising has turned into a virus in it's own right. Screw them.

 

[BudAshes]

oh, and ad blockers are probably expediting the day where ads will be truly obtrusive and impossible to block. thanks

So you are afraid that you wont be able to block adds in the future because people are blocking adds now... wtf kind of stupid thinking is this.

 

[slayer202]

So you are afraid that you wont be able to block adds in the future because people are blocking adds now... wtf kind of stupid thinking is this.

not a very hard concept to understand. I don't mind the current ads. I don't block ads. I don't want worse ads that I have to sit through and you clowns can't even block

 

[lxskllr]

not a very hard concept to understand. I don't mind the current ads. I don't block ads. I don't want worse ads that I have to sit through and you clowns can't even block

I can block anything that comes to my machine, because I own my machine. Anyone who accepts ads is a fool. That's one of the single best things you can do to improve your security. It's keeps the dummies from clicking on stupid shit, and it prevents silent installs for everyone else.

 

[rh71]

comedy central shows this for ~ 25 seconds with ad block on:

Still better than most ads

I agree. I watch some shows online that have a 30-60 second commercial and it's the same damn one 6 times per episode. Seriously, it accomplishes nothing other than to get you to hate what they're advertising. Brilliant.

 

[slayer202]

I can block anything that comes to my machine, because I own my machine. Anyone who accepts ads is a fool. That's one of the single best things you can do to improve your security. It's keeps the dummies from clicking on stupid shit, and it prevents silent installs for everyone else.

I can understand the security aspect but personally I don't find it to be an issue, and it doesn't seem to be the main reason people block ads.

And I disagree with you fundamentally. I think that if I want to visit a website I should take it as is. Golden rule, imo. Obviously security threats are different, but being safe is not too difficult

 

[JoeBleed]

I can understand the security aspect but personally I don't find it to be an issue, and it doesn't seem to be the main reason people block ads.

And I disagree with you fundamentally. I think that if I want to visit a website I should take it as is. Golden rule, imo. Obviously security threats are different, but being safe is not too difficult

from a home user stand point, you may not have issues. As someone that deals with a few hundred people surfing the web at work, i can tell you there are a lot of infected ad servers. I pissed off a bunch of right wing republicans because Fox news website had some bad ad servers in rotation for a while. I blocked Fox news all together because they were different add server address coming up in the logs when i check on an infected computer. This happened several years ago. haven't had any problem with Fox's website in a while.

With crappy add links at the top of search results, it never ends. I've sent out e-mails explain how to know they're add links with screen shots and circles. I've shown the infected people in person by pointing at the screen and explaining the difference.

It's safety and annoyance reasons. The ad folks can suck it. Or start paying me. no, not even paying me will i allow them.

 

[slayer202]

I'm fine with businesses doing that, can't trust people to be smart

 

[vi edit]

I'm fine with businesses doing that, can't trust people to be smart

Some of it's not even really about being smart. Some of them are really tricky. There was an add on here that if you hovered over it it would kick off what looked like an Adobe acrobat update. Most office PC's have adobe on them and I get prompted daily by mine to update. I never do because I'm lazy...but that's not the point. It something you are used to seeing and a lot of office users are going to get duped by it.

There was another one that literally one pixel in the ad had some kind of payload behind it that did bad things. I don't remember the exact details but I remember it being discussed in the moderator forums here. It's crazy how much stuff can get slipped in there that isn't caught by anyone but ultra attentive admins or over the top tinfoil security type peeps.

 

[PokerGuy]

I refuse to pay for the bandwidth for crappy ads, along with assuming security risks because of virus and malware infection etc from ads. No thanks, all that stuff gets filtered out.

If the advertiser wants me to see the ads, how about they pay me for each ad that gets displayed on my browser?

 

[KentState]

The problem isn't the companies who's the ads represent, but the ad agency/platforms that don't get paid for the impression or click. They don't give a crap about the company or consumer, but spamming as many impressions/clicks as possible instead of effectively targeting.

 

[Eug]

Www.CNN.com is a site which is taking an all too common approach seemingly to get around ad blockers. I used to read the site occasionally but it's very hard to do that now since half of their front page links these days are click bait crap. Its shockingly bad.

In contrast, www.theglobeandmail.com is nearly 100% legitimate articles, but a lot of the articles are behind a pay wall. This is a more reasonable approach IMO.

 

[Red Squirrel]

forbes.com takes the cake, the page won't even load AT ALL if you have an adblocker. Scary that this is even possible, did not realize sites could actually detect what extensions you have. I noticed some site even specify which one you have, ex: adblock plus. Why do browsers sent that kind of info anyway?

 

[WelshBloke]

forbes.com takes the cake, the page won't even load AT ALL if you have an adblocker. Scary that this is even possible, did not realize sites could actually detect what extensions you have. I noticed some site even specify which one you have, ex: adblock plus. Why do browsers sent that kind of info anyway?

Works for me.

I get a (trite) quote of the day and a click to continue then I get the site.

 

[QueBert]

The advertising companies did it to themselves. If they had stuck to non annoying ad formats that also don't act as spyware, perhaps we would not be forced to block them in order to make the internet usable.

lol whut? I block nothing and my internet's 100% usable. You're not forced to do anything, you chose to.

 

[Eug]

lol whut? I block nothing and my internet's 100% usable. You're not forced to do anything, you chose to.

On slower machines, some ads do indeed make the browsers nearly unusable. The overhead of the ads in in some cases is even higher than the overhead of the actual real content, which can slow a low power portable machine to a crawl. This was especially true with flash-based ads, but now that flash has fallen out of favour, the ad companies are bringing the bloat in other ways, not the least of which is HTML5.

 

[SparkyJJO]

For a while I was blocking ads because when I was with my parents we had a very low data cap on a very slow connection. Blocking ads was a necessity to keep things in check.

Now I continue to block ads because they are beyond annoying. Oh, and I have installed AdBlock on a lot of systems that I disinfected and funny how the rate of infected PCs I serviced went way down after doing that.

No sympathy from me for those ad guys. They've done it to themselves. It is free speech for them to have ads, and it is my freedom to not have to listen to them!

 

[styrafoam]

forbes.com takes the cake, the page won't even load AT ALL if you have an adblocker. Scary that this is even possible, did not realize sites could actually detect what extensions you have. I noticed some site even specify which one you have, ex: adblock plus. Why do browsers sent that kind of info anyway?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/09/22/forbes-website-served-malware/

Just trust them. If it happens again they will shut it down eventually.


http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/08/you-say-advertising-i-say-block-that-malware/

 

[Jumpem]

I have never felt the need to use any ad-blocking software.

 

[Auric]

Hah, fanastic. I'm going to donate some money to a adblock plus because of this guy:

The pimp's zoot suit is... fitting. :awe:

 

[William Gaatjes]

The forum was terribly slow on my tablet. Because of the interactive ads with get free trial buttons. Now i have installed ad block plus as well on my tablet and the forum is responsive again. My tablet is a 1.2GHz quad core with 1GB of ram. It completely froze because of the intrusive ads.

 

[StrangerGuy]

I refuse to pay for the bandwidth for crappy ads, along with assuming security risks because of virus and malware infection etc from ads. No thanks, all that stuff gets filtered out.

If the advertiser wants me to see the ads, how about they pay me for each ad that gets displayed on my browser?

Now if only there's a Chrome extension to autoblock known dumbshit clickbait sources like Outbrain and Taboola. My IQ drops a point everytime I glance at them.

Most of the anti-adblock whiners don't have produce good original content anyway so they can die for all I care. There's already enough garbage on the web as it is.