Adverse Drug Reactions

Nocturnal

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So I wrote about taking Levaquin and having some side effects such as insomnia and brain fog. No tendon pain thank God so far. I'll knock on wood.

Anyhow, I notice there are forums filled with people complaining about their ADR from Levaquin.

People are saying they're changed for life. They can no longer function, work, etc.

Do you guys feel that this is legitimate or are they just crazy?

This is not the only drug I've seen people talk about that seems to have made people sick to the point of not being able to work. I've seen people talk about antidepressants (SSRIs) in the same nature.

Anyone here suffer from any type of ADR from any drug they took?

Check out this link to a guy who has taken Cipro which is part of the same family of drugs that Levaquin is a part of.

http://deathbycipro.wordpress.com/
 

JohnCU

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paxil makes my alcohol cravings 10x stronger (and other people, google it) and has totally fucked up my... err ability to finish during sex, i can't even reach orgasm during sex and it's unenjoyable when i do it myself. i haven't taken it for 3 months and i'm still not back to normal. and it caused 10 lbs weight gain in just a few months when i first started. i regret ever starting it.

wellbutrin caused anxiety, same thing i was trying to alleviate.

cymbalta caused horrible anxiety, to the point that i would throw up randomly from the nausea.

effexor made the sexual side effects so bad that i just wanted to die. i couldn't even get pleasure from pleasuring myself (worse than paxil)

oh and more

librium makes it hard to breathe

serzone has been known to cause liver problems and has been banned, but unfortunately it was the one that worked best for my anxiety problems

haha damn i've been on a lot of medications
 

Gooberlx2

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The wife is actually allergic to levaquin.

She also went through a myriad of drugs when she was first diagnosed with bi-polar disorder. Some of those drugs made her a zombie, whereas others made her almost suicidal. Seroquel has been working for some time now....though during periods of very high stress she'll still cycle highs and lows.

Ambien makes her get the munchies.

My BIL is allergic to prednisone, which proved to be a bitch when we had to take him to the ER when we found out he's also severely allergic to mahi-mahi.
 

Baked

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With enough money and lobbying, even rat poison can be USDA approved for human consumption. Poor drug slaves.
 

Nocturnal

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Yeah that's what I figured. It seems so crappy that people get hit with these side effects. I guess that's why it's a better idea to take care of yourself so you don't need these medications. Although sometimes things come up unexpectedly. Myself, I was under a crap load of stress at work and also not sleeping well. I'm definitely going to take the flu shot this year.
 

Nocturnal

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Originally posted by: Baked
With enough money and lobbying, even rat poison can be USDA approved for human consumption. Poor drug slaves.

I have come to realize this too. Do you feel we ever have a shot at overcoming this corruption? Probably not huh?
 

JohnCU

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Yeah that's what I figured. It seems so crappy that people get hit with these side effects. I guess that's why it's a better idea to take care of yourself so you don't need these medications. Although sometimes things come up unexpectedly. Myself, I was under a crap load of stress at work and also not sleeping well. I'm definitely going to take the flu shot this year.

you could try melatonin, it helps me sleep a little better, but cut the pill in half. it's usually 3mg but 1.5 mg works best for me and it's just a supplement..

i'm so tired of taking medicine. i don't even like to take advil now. i have no idea how screwed up i am permanently because of all the medicine i've taken.
 

JohnCU

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Originally posted by: 911paramedic
x2 for not being able to finish with Paxil. Desire is there, but sensation(?) isn't?

yeah it's embarassing. one girl asked me if i was gay because i couldn't finish with her. :eek: :(
 

RadiclDreamer

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Originally posted by: JohnCU
paxil makes my alcohol cravings 10x stronger (and other people, google it) and has totally fucked up my... err ability to finish during sex, i can't even reach orgasm during sex and it's unenjoyable when i do it myself. i haven't taken it for 3 months and i'm still not back to normal. and it caused 10 lbs weight gain in just a few months when i first started. i regret ever starting it.

SSRI meds do this to me as well
 

mwmorph

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I think I might just be lucky. I'm taking Paxil CR 37.5mg per day and it has mildly affected my sexual performance but beyond that, nothing adverse. I did forget to take my pills for a couple of days though and before I caught it I got withdrawal and that was frightening. I felt electric shocks throughout my body and became moderately disoriented and that was just the start of withdraw before I caught it. It scares me to think what will happen when I get off of it and all hell breaks loose for supposedly 2-4 weeks.
 

JohnCU

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Originally posted by: mwmorph
I think I might just be lucky. I'm taking Paxil CR 37.5mg per day and it has mildly affected my sexual performance but beyond that, nothing adverse. I did forget to take my pills for a couple of days though and before I caught it I got withdrawal and that was frightening. I felt electric shocks throughout my body and became moderately disoriented and that was just the start of withdraw before I caught it. It scares me to think what will happen when I get off of it and all hell breaks loose for supposedly 2-4 weeks.

brain shocks. get ready :(
 

TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: Baked
With enough money and lobbying, even rat poison can be USDA approved for human consumption. Poor drug slaves.

I have come to realize this too. Do you feel we ever have a shot at overcoming this corruption? Probably not huh?

Tin foil hats much? What, you think the big pharm business makes drugs knowing that they're harmful/very risky and then puts them out .. IN ORDER TO MAKE MONEY? As evil as big business may be, they're not stupid. They don't make money pushing a risky product that's bound to get pulled/force class action lawsuits/get bad press/etc. Bottom line is people foolish think that they can take a pill and it'll make things all better. That's an absurd concept. You're putting something into your body that's going to change your body chemistry. Sure, it does have a desired effect that should assuage your problem to some degree, but there are bound to be some kind of side effects.

Take SSRIs for example; I think people complaining about SSRI side effects are a bit foolish (yes, I know that's insulting, and I'm sorry) or simply undereducated. Serotonin is such a ubiquitous neurotransmitter that I don't know how you couldn't assume side effects when taking a drug that's going to alter your levels.

I think with a lot of these drugs, it has to be assumed that you're going to have side effects, you just have to decide if living with the side effects is worse than living with the problem.

As far as the drastically negative side effects, they are few and far between. Yes, it happens, but most often it doesn't.

Note: Yes, I used "side effect" implying "negative side effect" or ADR, and I don't feel like going back to change it for clarity. :p
 

JohnCU

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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: Baked
With enough money and lobbying, even rat poison can be USDA approved for human consumption. Poor drug slaves.

I have come to realize this too. Do you feel we ever have a shot at overcoming this corruption? Probably not huh?

Tin foil hats much? What, you think the big pharm business makes drugs knowing that they're harmful/very risky and then puts them out .. IN ORDER TO MAKE MONEY? As evil as big business may be, they're not stupid. They don't make money pushing a risky product that's bound to get pulled/force class action lawsuits/get bad press/etc. Bottom line is people foolish think that they can take a pill and it'll make things all better. That's an absurd concept. You're putting something into your body that's going to change your body chemistry. Sure, it does have a desired effect that should assuage your problem to some degree, but there are bound to be some kind of side effects.

Take SSRIs for example; I think people complaining about SSRI side effects are a bit foolish (yes, I know that's insulting, and I'm sorry) or simply undereducated. Serotonin is such a ubiquitous neurotransmitter that I don't know how you couldn't assume side effects when taking a drug that's going to alter your levels.

I think with a lot of these drugs, it has to be assumed that you're going to have side effects, you just have to decide if living with the side effects is worse than living with the problem.

As far as the drastically negative side effects, they are few and far between. Yes, it happens, but most often it doesn't.

Note: Yes, I used "side effect" implying "negative side effect" or ADR, and I don't feel like going back to change it for clarity. :p


umm uneducated? do you realize that they don't fully understand how SSRIs work?
 

TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: Baked
With enough money and lobbying, even rat poison can be USDA approved for human consumption. Poor drug slaves.

I have come to realize this too. Do you feel we ever have a shot at overcoming this corruption? Probably not huh?

Tin foil hats much? What, you think the big pharm business makes drugs knowing that they're harmful/very risky and then puts them out .. IN ORDER TO MAKE MONEY? As evil as big business may be, they're not stupid. They don't make money pushing a risky product that's bound to get pulled/force class action lawsuits/get bad press/etc. Bottom line is people foolish think that they can take a pill and it'll make things all better. That's an absurd concept. You're putting something into your body that's going to change your body chemistry. Sure, it does have a desired effect that should assuage your problem to some degree, but there are bound to be some kind of side effects.

Take SSRIs for example; I think people complaining about SSRI side effects are a bit foolish (yes, I know that's insulting, and I'm sorry) or simply undereducated. Serotonin is such a ubiquitous neurotransmitter that I don't know how you couldn't assume side effects when taking a drug that's going to alter your levels.

I think with a lot of these drugs, it has to be assumed that you're going to have side effects, you just have to decide if living with the side effects is worse than living with the problem.

As far as the drastically negative side effects, they are few and far between. Yes, it happens, but most often it doesn't.

Note: Yes, I used "side effect" implying "negative side effect" or ADR, and I don't feel like going back to change it for clarity. :p


umm uneducated? do you realize that they don't fully understand how SSRIs work?

That's exactly my point. To the letter. I didn't say anything about understand the exact mechanisms involved at the molecular level. Bottom line is people come in with XXX issue (depression, for example) and want something (say, Lexapro) to "fix it." It's an absolutely absurd concept. Sure, it might, but to think that you can play with your serotonin levels and not have some sort of ADR is a bit of a stretch. Maybe a bit ignorant is more appropriate than uneducated? The problem is consumer expectations != pharmacological effect.

Edit: Typo!
 

JohnCU

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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: Baked
With enough money and lobbying, even rat poison can be USDA approved for human consumption. Poor drug slaves.

I have come to realize this too. Do you feel we ever have a shot at overcoming this corruption? Probably not huh?

Tin foil hats much? What, you think the big pharm business makes drugs knowing that they're harmful/very risky and then puts them out .. IN ORDER TO MAKE MONEY? As evil as big business may be, they're not stupid. They don't make money pushing a risky product that's bound to get pulled/force class action lawsuits/get bad press/etc. Bottom line is people foolish think that they can take a pill and it'll make things all better. That's an absurd concept. You're putting something into your body that's going to change your body chemistry. Sure, it does have a desired effect that should assuage your problem to some degree, but there are bound to be some kind of side effects.

Take SSRIs for example; I think people complaining about SSRI side effects are a bit foolish (yes, I know that's insulting, and I'm sorry) or simply undereducated. Serotonin is such a ubiquitous neurotransmitter that I don't know how you couldn't assume side effects when taking a drug that's going to alter your levels.

I think with a lot of these drugs, it has to be assumed that you're going to have side effects, you just have to decide if living with the side effects is worse than living with the problem.

As far as the drastically negative side effects, they are few and far between. Yes, it happens, but most often it doesn't.

Note: Yes, I used "side effect" implying "negative side effect" or ADR, and I don't feel like going back to change it for clarity. :p


umm uneducated? do you realize that they don't fully understand how SSRIs work?

That's exactly my point. To the letter. I didn't say anything about understand the exact mechanisms involve at the molecular level. Bottom line is people come in with XXX issue (depression, for example) and want something (say, Lexapro) to "fix it." It's an absolutely absurd concept. Sure, it might, but to think that you can play with your serotonin levels and not have some sort of ADR is a bit of a stretch. Maybe a bit ignorant is more appropriate than uneducated? The problem is consumer expectations != pharmacological effect.

agree with that 100%.
 

udneekgnim

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I'm a fan of the South Park school of medicine

give a good smack and get into some kind of motivational tirade
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: Baked
With enough money and lobbying, even rat poison can be USDA approved for human consumption. Poor drug slaves.

I have come to realize this too. Do you feel we ever have a shot at overcoming this corruption? Probably not huh?

Tin foil hats much? What, you think the big pharm business makes drugs knowing that they're harmful/very risky and then puts them out .. IN ORDER TO MAKE MONEY? As evil as big business may be, they're not stupid. They don't make money pushing a risky product that's bound to get pulled/force class action lawsuits/get bad press/etc. Bottom line is people foolish think that they can take a pill and it'll make things all better. That's an absurd concept. You're putting something into your body that's going to change your body chemistry. Sure, it does have a desired effect that should assuage your problem to some degree, but there are bound to be some kind of side effects.

Take SSRIs for example; I think people complaining about SSRI side effects are a bit foolish (yes, I know that's insulting, and I'm sorry) or simply undereducated. Serotonin is such a ubiquitous neurotransmitter that I don't know how you couldn't assume side effects when taking a drug that's going to alter your levels.

I think with a lot of these drugs, it has to be assumed that you're going to have side effects, you just have to decide if living with the side effects is worse than living with the problem.

As far as the drastically negative side effects, they are few and far between. Yes, it happens, but most often it doesn't.

Note: Yes, I used "side effect" implying "negative side effect" or ADR, and I don't feel like going back to change it for clarity. :p


umm uneducated? do you realize that they don't fully understand how SSRIs work?

That's exactly my point. To the letter. I didn't say anything about understand the exact mechanisms involved at the molecular level. Bottom line is people come in with XXX issue (depression, for example) and want something (say, Lexapro) to "fix it." It's an absolutely absurd concept. Sure, it might, but to think that you can play with your serotonin levels and not have some sort of ADR is a bit of a stretch. Maybe a bit ignorant is more appropriate than uneducated? The problem is consumer expectations != pharmacological effect.

Edit: Typo!

Well put.
And another thing, due to our still evolving knowledge of neurotransmitters and their effects, everybody thinks, including doctors, that anxiety or depression can ALWAYS be treated with the same drug. The problem is, each person's brain chemistry is quite different, and often the cause of general mental issues can be caused by a variety of chemistry level problems.

I think, before being prescribed any drug that can alter NT levels, a doctor should require the patient to have an NT scan, to see how the person's levels are, and make a judgment based on average levels.
Hell, a lot of people, including me, let the thought of a certain condition get into their head too much, and the symptoms just seem to escalate following that, while the real issue is very minor at the NT level.
 

CrackRabbit

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I had an allergic reaction to a Tetracycline (general antibiotic) derivative, caused my hands to start swelling up and made me feel like my whole body was made of lead.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: udneekgnim
I'm a fan of the South Park school of medicine

give a good smack and get into some kind of motivational tirade

very very true :D

that's the problem with society now, and one that's relatively new, even though all these conditions are far from new... they can't be. And yet, everyone lived successfully prior to us and managed quite well. Hate to know the kinds of disorders some of the most famous people in history probably had.
A good beating at home and at school prevented the conditions from developing further, mostly out of fear. Fear is powerful, as adrenaline is a VERY important neurotransmitter in the body. I wish I grew up in the time all that was allowed, and not in the pussified society we live in now. These medications wouldn't be needed except in the most extreme cases, because everybody would be whipped into shape. Sure, the problem still exists at the NT level, but the conscious mind CAN overcome physical conditions with enough support/coercion.
 

OCGuy

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Yep. People just run to thier dealer, err....Doctor.....because they dont feel "good." They deserve everything they get unless they have a real serious issue. "Moody" and "Inability to pay attention" are not real problems.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Yep. People just run to thier dealer, err....Doctor.....because they dont feel "good." They deserve everything they get unless they have a real serious issue. "Moody" and "Inability to pay attention" are not real problems.

well... inability to pay attention is a bitch of a problem... I have that. :p
But like psychiatrists who can treat others but can't treat themselves... I can't seem to fix myself. This shit sucks. Wish it could be beat out of me. I'd sign up for that. I hate the thought of taking medication, not to mention the Army does not approve. So back to square one. Oh, and can't readily admit I have it either, so there goes the idea of the Army beating it out of me. Bummer.
 

SsupernovaE

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Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: mwmorph
I think I might just be lucky. I'm taking Paxil CR 37.5mg per day and it has mildly affected my sexual performance but beyond that, nothing adverse. I did forget to take my pills for a couple of days though and before I caught it I got withdrawal and that was frightening. I felt electric shocks throughout my body and became moderately disoriented and that was just the start of withdraw before I caught it. It scares me to think what will happen when I get off of it and all hell breaks loose for supposedly 2-4 weeks.

brain shocks. get ready :(

I recently posted a thread about getting off of Paxil. Well, I just went to my neurologist (I have muscular dystrophy) and they actually want to put me into a rehab facility (not the drug kind) to monitor me while I get off of this stuff because it can supposedly affect my already compromised respiratory condition.

Paxil was definitely the worst medical decision of my life.