Adventures in ITUNES!

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Lifer
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Originally posted on my website, I figured I'd add this guy here:

I recently discovered the wonderful world of Apple's iTunes program. I have been using Winamp 2.x for years on end, partially due to the fact that it's what I've grown accustomed to, however ever since it's move to version 5, it's just sucked. I think that could be attributed to AOL purchasing Nullsoft but who knows? They tried to make a useful library feature but it didnt do it for me and my search began. I tried out several players, (Foobar2000 & WMP among others) and ended with the installation of iTunes.

The biggest "drawback" is that iTunes uses the ID3 tags to orgainize everything and offers no support for filename naming conventions (track-artist-title.mp3). Due to the fact my collection and naming system was as varied as the genres therein, I really needed to get things updated on that front.I ended up using a web based app called Musicbrainz. I'd like to have things organized my way so I'm currently going through them all again to put in sort of broad genres and groups. While not filling out the entire ID3 tags all the time, Musicbrainz definately saved a ton of work.

I have been utilizing the MP3 format since late '96 and never really adopted a standard way to name them that I was happy with and stuck with, unlike my friend Craig who has always organized his collection in a simple folder / filename method (avoiding the ID3 tags completely). The most I've done is organize my full albums into their own directories and split those off into genres.

Once you've got your tags ready to go, there are some realy nice features. You can sort first by Genre, then by Artist, then by Album (and any combination of these) with a few mouse clicks, searching is fast and easy. iTunes will even track how many times you've listened to certain songs and, if you would like, what you rate every song (on a 1-5 scale). Smart Playlists are probably the bread and butter of iTunes though. They are auto-adaptable lists of songs that you create based on certain criteria. Want all Live and Acoustic music in a list? You got it. Want to listen to songs that you havent in a long time? No problem. The possibilites are damn near endless.

I really needed a way to be able to transport my collection and stats to and from work seeing that I spend most of my time there and wanted to track my listening habits. The way iTunes stores your library information is in a few files located under your "My Music" directory. That is usually found under your C drive, so I just had to modify it's location using Microsoft's TweakUI. Piece of cake, and now my library is portable and I can keep track of my habits everywhere except when my player is using it's internal software to pipe songs into my car stereo.

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ingenuiti

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Yep, the key to iTunes is to have the ID3 tags filled out (artist, song name, etc). After that, you can find any song in your library in about a second.
 

imported_Lucifer

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I like iTunes a lot. I don't know why a lot of people hate iTunes so much. It's usually those who hate Apple.
 

ponyo

Lifer
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I liked iTunes from day one and it quickly replaced Winamp. Sure it's little bloated but the ease of use and features more than make up for it. I mean with today's powerful processor and gig of memory standard, bloat is not even much of an issue.
 

Fenixgoon

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sorry.. but winamp pwnz still.. i definitely like 5.x (search feature) even though its slower than 2.x
 

sparkyclarky

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
does itunes play WMAs?

No. The windows version has the option to change wma to aac (or mp3, alac, any other thing iTunes encodes in). However, that will result in a loss of quality, unless you convert the wma to a lossless format (essentialy making the file much bigger than the original-unless it was wma lossless, but at least allowing you to play it without degrading the quality more).
 

kamper

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One day I love iTunes because it's so simple to use, the next day I hate it because there's something so simple that it does wrong or stupid and there's no way to change it. That's the risk with a company that specializes in making stuff that's easy to use: they always screw the poweruser in some way. The thing I like most, though, is the network sharing that it does. Listening to other people's music at work is really great.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
sorry.. but winamp pwnz still.. i definitely like 5.x (search feature) even though its slower than 2.x

Honestly, I think you're the first person to say that winamp 5 is good.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: whitecloak
wmp10 does all of the above.

I was not aware that WMP tracked usage statistics. Still, I find it funny that WMP bastardized the Smart Playlist feature then came out with a "guideline" to help people pick an MP3 player (if you read the list, you'll notice they're completely just saying "dont buy an ipod")
 

Megatomic

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I love Apple (wish I could afford a dual G5) but I dislike iTunes. I'll stick with Winamp 5.08 and WMP10.
 

Dman877

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MP3 players don't seem to be that hard to do right, itunes is fine in this regard. Personally, I use itunes for the radio and the music store (yes I pay for music).
 

Zolty

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winamp 5 works fine for me, I just use the non modern skins and I really like it.
 

kjackson09

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I have recently been playing with iTunes (I bnought a Shuffle and I am really happy with it) I am now of course in the process of findign ID3 Tags and musicbrainz will behelpful.

My question is regarding the compatibility of iTunes Jukebox and non-Apple mp3 players. I read somewhere that many mp3 players have trouble with iTunes online music store, but I am not concerned with that.

Can I use my iTunes program to copy mp3 from my existing library to a non-Apple iPOD?
 

MrChad

Lifer
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Originally posted by: kjackson09
I have recently been playing with iTunes (I bnought a Shuffle and I am really happy with it) I am now of course in the process of findign ID3 Tags and musicbrainz will behelpful.

My question is regarding the compatibility of iTunes Jukebox and non-Apple mp3 players. I read somewhere that many mp3 players have trouble with iTunes online music store, but I am not concerned with that.

Can I use my iTunes program to copy mp3 from my existing library to a non-Apple iPOD?

AFAIK iTunes only connects to iPod players.
 

Ecgtheow

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I've been using it for over four years (has it already been that long?). It's a great piece of software.