Adrian Peterson's two year old son severely beaten (Edit: He passed away)... :(

[desura]

When I grew up, it was relatively "normal" for parents or authority figures to inflict pain whenever there was any hint of disobedience or disrespect. I don't think it was right, but that's the way it was.

It was culturally accepted. I was routinely beaten by most of the babysitters I had while growing up. I was paddled by my principal in multiple different schools.

For the most part, culture in my area has changed dramatically in just a couple of decades and it's no longer acceptable to most people (at least not to that degree). However, some people here do still beat their kids over practically nothing...even in public. Casual observation in my region shows that it's far more prevalent and accepted in black communities than elsewhere...having NOTHING to do with Christianity or Dr. James Dobson.

Your anecdote makes me think even more that he was a devote of James Dobson.

Let me explain. You were spanked and spanking was a regular feature in the community you grew up in.

Great.

How many kids died? How many parents inflicted such severe wounds on their children that the police were called?

If your answer is that this never happened, that indicates that the spanking was done in a way that was guided by a certain tradition.

On the other hand, this guy managed to kill a young child with his spanking. That's actually indicating IMO that he doesn't know what he's doing. Which indicates an absence of tradition. Which could mean that he picked it up from a book. By a certain someone.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Your anecdote makes me think even more that he was a devote of James Dobson.

Let me explain. You were spanked and spanking was a regular feature in the community you grew up in.

Great.

How many kids died? How many parents inflicted such severe wounds on their children that the police were called?

If your answer is that this never happened, that indicates that the spanking was done in a way that was guided by a certain tradition.

On the other hand, this guy managed to kill a young child with his spanking. That's actually indicating IMO that he doesn't know what he's doing. Which indicates an absence of tradition. Which could mean that he picked it up from a book. By a certain someone.

You're saying that BECAUSE he was particularly violent in his child-beating, that he couldn't have learned it from his family because the method varied? But next, because the Bible does support punishing your children, he must have "learned" about it from there? Or are you referring to stoning disobedient children, and implying that this outstanding father read about it, said "Hey, that sounds like a good idea, I will rationally adopt this established practice of killing children to my own"?

EDIT: Oh, wait, you're talking about a book from this James Dobson fellow? Ok, replace "Bible" with one of his books.

 

[madoka]

Why attack me? What about this is getting to you?

Do you beat your kids?
Did daddy beat you?
Or was it pretend daddy?

Are you trying to validate my assertion that you are a dumbass? If so, you are doing a fine job.

 

[madoka]

Your anecdote makes me think even more that he was a devote of James Dobson.

On the other hand, this guy managed to kill a young child with his spanking. That's actually indicating IMO that he doesn't know what he's doing. Which indicates an absence of tradition. Which could mean that he picked it up from a book. By a certain someone.

So a child a brutally killed and you conclude it is James Dobson's fault? You are a dumbass and a nut job.

 

[Ichinisan]

Your anecdote makes me think even more that he was a devote of James Dobson.

Let me explain. You were spanked and spanking was a regular feature in the community you grew up in.

Great.

How many kids died? How many parents inflicted such severe wounds on their children that the police were called?

If your answer is that this never happened, that indicates that the spanking was done in a way that was guided by a certain tradition.

On the other hand, this guy managed to kill a young child with his spanking. That's actually indicating IMO that he doesn't know what he's doing. Which indicates an absence of tradition. Which could mean that he picked it up from a book. By a certain someone.

The violent "discipline" I'm talking about is cultural. Regarding the ethnic distinction, people speculate that it was passed along since the time when black slaves lived their whole lives with similar treatment.

I don't know his cultural background, but I bet you'll find he was influenced by culture or the way he was personally treated while growing up. This James Dobson suggestion is a stretch.

 

[Dari]

The violent "discipline" I'm talking about is cultural. Regarding the ethnic distinction, people speculate that it was passed along since the time when black slaves lived their whole lives with similar treatment.

I don't know his cultural background, but I bet you'll find he was influenced by culture or the way he was personally treated while growing up. This James Dobson suggestion is a stretch.

Is it prevalent in Chinese society to throw the baby over a bridge when the parents fight?

http://www.chinasmack.com/2013/pict...-into-river-during-fight-between-parents.html

Your assertion about black parents beating their kids because of slavery is absolutely banal and extremely simplistic. A major leap. Most conservative societies beat their children. The only people that stopped doing that are American liberals and the kids grow up and hate them for not instilling forced-backed discipline.

 

[Ichinisan]

Your assertion about black parents beating their kids because of slavery is absolutely banal and extremely simplistic.

"My" assertion? I didn't "assert" where the behavior originated. I just said the behavior was apparently accepted within that culture (in my area).

 

[silverpig]

Geez, I can't imagine what Adrian or the mother are going through right now. I just hope for a speedy healing process for them both, and for justice to be done.

 

[TheFamilyMan]

Geez, I can't imagine what Adrian or the mother are going through right now. I just hope for a speedy healing process for them both, and for justice to be done.

The mother is going through trying to reconcile the fact she no longer has her golden ticket and AP is going through the audibles and playcalling scheme for the game today.

 

[desura]

The violent "discipline" I'm talking about is cultural. Regarding the ethnic distinction, people speculate that it was passed along since the time when black slaves lived their whole lives with similar treatment.

I don't know his cultural background, but I bet you'll find he was influenced by culture or the way he was personally treated while growing up. This James Dobson suggestion is a stretch.

Okay, while not James Dobson specifically, perhaps he was influenced by a preacher at his church.

Anyways, the killer looks like an adopted Filipino...

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Predictably, Phil Mushnick has authored an awful column about this death - http://deadspin.com/your-regular-reminder-that-phil-mushnick-is-a-race-bait-1445099979 What a turd that guy is . . .

 

[zinfamous]

The mother is going through trying to reconcile the fact she no longer has her golden ticket and AP is going through the audibles and playcalling scheme for the game today.

From what I read, AP was informed about this kid only a month or so ago.

Also, no one person is ever in any position to judge how another grieves.

Way to be a class act, there.

 

[Zivic]

Predictably, Phil Mushnick has authored an awful column about this death - http://deadspin.com/your-regular-reminder-that-phil-mushnick-is-a-race-bait-1445099979 What a turd that guy is . . .

apparently there are more turds than just him. I feel pretty much the same way, and look at comments below the article.

whether you like it or not, AP had some degree of fault in this death...

 

[Zivic]

From what I read, AP was informed about this kid only a month or so ago.

Also, no one person is ever in any position to judge how another grieves.

Way to be a class act, there.

what the thefamilyman posted is more inline with reality than almost anything else I have seen posted. Reality isn't always classy. Impregnating a random and having that same child beat to death isn't classy

 

[momeNt]

FYI he never met the son.

So all these "as a father" posts are from the wrong point of view.

Unless you are a father who never met your son.

 

[rudeguy]

FYI he never met the son.

So all these "as a father" posts are from the wrong point of view.

Unless you are a father who never met your son.

this thread has really brought out the character of some people here

Its rare that I'm disgusted but mission accomplished

 

[dainthomas]

apparently there are more turds than just him. I feel pretty much the same way, and look at comments below the article.

whether you like it or not, AP had some degree of fault in this death...

You are out of your mind, even for an internet troll.

Just because a father has more money than the mother doesn't mean he can just take the kid. Or maybe he was supposed to let her move in with him? AP had no way to control who she associated with any more than you have a say in who your exes associate with.

You know whose fault this is? The guy in jail.

 

[SheHateMe]

FYI he never met the son.

So all these "as a father" posts are from the wrong point of view.

Unless you are a father who never met your son.

But what does that mean? A life was taken. This is about the child, not about pointing out to everyone that Adrian never met his son.

You don't know what the circumstances behind not seeing his son are either. So, don't pass judgement.

This may have been the first time he's heard about his son, or the first time he was allowed into the child's life. You just don't know.

 

[momeNt]

this thread has really brought out the character of some people here

Its rare that I'm disgusted but mission accomplished

What was disgusting about my post?

I'm simply adding detail to the story.

If I posted, he is playing this Sunday vs the Panthers, would that have been also disgusting or just extra detail?

 

[momeNt]

But what does that mean? A life was taken. This is about the child, not about pointing out to everyone that Adrian never met his son.

You don't know what the circumstances behind not seeing his son are either. So, don't pass judgement.

This may have been the first time he's heard about his son, or the first time he was allowed into the child's life. You just don't know.

Adding detail, not passing judgment. I posted it because of all the "as a father" posts.

 

[TheFamilyMan]

From what I read, AP was informed about this kid only a month or so ago.

Also, no one person is ever in any position to judge how another grieves.

Way to be a class act, there.

Hey, I'm not the guy milking everyone for their "support" and "uplifting brotherhood" like AP is. He's apparently so broken up by this that he's having to rely on his brotherhood of NFL buddies (who probably regard their own legitimate and illegitimate children about the same way he does) to support him through this difficult time (his words) but he's not so broken up by it and upset by it that he would want to be there to see him laid to rest.

He's deflecting the fact that he could have given two shits about this kid and is probably relieved he's not on the hook for 18 yrs of interacting with a gold-digging whore + $$$ for child support + $$$ college for a dick slip. Hell, I'd give the guy kudos if he'd just come out and say he didn't know the kid, he's sad a kid lost his life, but he just didn't have any sort of relationship with the kid to warrant going to the funeral. At least that's honesty and I can appreciate that...not this fucking pity party, let's rally around AP bullshit that's going around.

Apparently Mr. Peterson has a problem keeping his little "Mr. Peterson" out of strange women without protection as his current baby and baby momma count will suggest. IMHO, kids to him are really nothing more than by-products of him playing russian roulette with strange pussy. Classy guy there...

 

[zinfamous]

what the thefamilyman posted is more inline with reality than almost anything else I have seen posted. Reality isn't always classy. Impregnating a random and having that same child beat to death isn't classy

perhaps you didn't intend this, but your sentence here blames AP for the death of this kid.

 

[zinfamous]

But what does that mean? A life was taken. This is about the child, not about pointing out to everyone that Adrian never met his son.

You don't know what the circumstances behind not seeing his son are either. So, don't pass judgement.

This may have been the first time he's heard about his son, or the first time he was allowed into the child's life. You just don't know.

Agreed, this is why you need to take it up with TheFamilyMan and others, who seem to know exactly what is going on in AP's life and fancy themselves in the perfect position to cast aspersions with the opportune death of his son.

Real class acts in this thread.

Oh shit, I meant to say cunts.

whoops.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Hey, I'm not the guy milking everyone for their "support" and "uplifting brotherhood" like AP is. He's apparently so broken up by this that he's having to rely on his brotherhood of NFL buddies (who probably regard their own legitimate and illegitimate children about the same way he does) to support him through this difficult time (his words) but he's not so broken up by it and upset by it that he would want to be there to see him laid to rest.

He's deflecting the fact that he could have given two shits about this kid and is probably relieved he's not on the hook for 18 yrs of interacting with a gold-digging whore + $$$ for child support + $$$ college for a dick slip. Hell, I'd give the guy kudos if he'd just come out and say he didn't know the kid, he's sad a kid lost his life, but he just didn't have any sort of relationship with the kid to warrant going to the funeral. At least that's honesty and I can appreciate that...not this fucking pity party, let's rally around AP bullshit that's going around.

Apparently Mr. Peterson has a problem keeping his little "Mr. Peterson" out of strange women without protection as his current baby and baby momma count will suggest. IMHO, kids to him are really nothing more than by-products of him playing russian roulette with strange pussy. Classy guy there...

Because you know everything about his situation, right? And I'm sure you've never had unprotected sex either, right? (Actually the latter may be true, because angry, socially-disconnected weirdos tend not to get much action from what I've seen.)

Really and truly, the depth of strangers' blackheartedness can be jarring sometimes.

 

[TheFamilyMan]

Because you know everything about his situation, right? And I'm sure you've never had unprotected sex either, right? (Actually the latter may be true, because angry, socially-disconnected weirdos tend not to get much action from what I've seen.)

Really and truly, the depth of strangers' blackheartedness can be jarring sometimes.

I'm not saying I know everything about his situation...I'm saying I can fucking see how he's reacting to the situation. Want to know something? I'm not looking at it any other way than he is portraying it...

Sorry to burst your bubble of misconception here, Ironsides, but there's no angry, socially-disconnected weirdo on this side of the keyboard. Just a realist that doesn't sugarcoat it and will tell it just like it is...