adios netbooks?

[QueBert]

You have got to be kidding me.

No, you're talking 2 different platforms, I wouldn't tell a person not to run Ubuntu because it won't run Photoshop unless Photoshop is a program they need to run. There are 10's of thousands of apps on the App store and I can literally do all of my daily work on an iPhone if I didn't have access to a PC. If the iPad does everything a person needs why would they care about it not being able to install PC software on it? My mom has had a laptop for 2 years and she's literally installed 2 programs on it, Peggles & Jewel Quest, the ability to install software isn't a concern to the average user.

 

[zerocool84]

The iPad is pretty limited as far as productivity, you can do things on it, but as far as printing a receipt for the bill you just paid or the million other things you do with a computer, they just don't quite cut it, it really is a 3rd device, it'll get you on the web and let you read the paper, etc and whatever apps are available are pretty slick, but it will be years before you can use a tablet as your main PC.

This is what many people (fanbois) don't understand. There's no way the iPad replaces anything in anyone's home. There's just too much it doesn't do for that to happen.

 

[TheWart]

This is what many people (fanbois) don't understand. There's no way the iPad replaces anything in anyone's home. There's just too much it doesn't do for that to happen.

Your statement is pretty ignorant. You are saying that there are no people who could/would rather have, say, an iPad and a desktop over a desktop and netbook?

Additionally, if you bother reading the OP, ~44% of the respondents said that they were going to buy an iPad instead of a netbook. That sounds like "replacing" the netbook to me. And please don't respond with "OMG they cant print, they are going to be teh angry!?!" The limitations of the device are pretty apparent after only playing with it for a few minutes, so the vast majority of people know what they are getting into...

 

[zerocool84]

Your statement is pretty ignorant. You are saying that there are no people who could/would rather have, say, an iPad and a desktop over a desktop and netbook?

Additionally, if you bother reading the OP, ~44% of the respondents said that they were going to buy an iPad instead of a netbook. That sounds like "replacing" the netbook to me. And please don't respond with "OMG they cant print, they are going to be teh angry!?!" The limitations of the device are pretty apparent after only playing with it for a few minutes, so the vast majority of people know what they are getting into...

Like I said, the fanbois don't get it. You and certain other people are going to defend it no matter how much it doesn't do.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Wow, I didn't read the article, it's relating that iPads are cannibalizing netbook, notebook and iPod sales.

Her timing is off and I don't know if consumers even understood what they were talking about.

I would love to see some demographic data on iPad buyers.

 

[QueBert]

This is what many people (fanbois) don't understand. There's no way the iPad replaces anything in anyone's home. There's just too much it doesn't do for that to happen.

the average person surfs the web, emails and that's really about it. My mom is am average user, when she looks at my iPod Touch she goes "wow, that does everything!" What Apple haters don't understand is the normal user runs their PC as it came from the factory and never installs shit on it. You keep saying there's no way it replaces anything in anyone's home. But the survey said 44% of people who were going to get Netbooks got or are getting an iPad instead. Hell it does 90% of what I do and I'm a power user. To make a claim there's too much it won't do is laughable because most people are about from far from power users as possible. The 44% statistic is proof a shit ton of people don't feel like you feel.

 

[theeedude]

the average person surfs the web, emails and that's really about it.

EXACTLY. That's why I roll my eyes every time I hear about App store this, App store that. It just gotta do web browsing right, that's all I need. I don't use apps on my PC aside from media player and bitterrent.

 

[Deeko]

you're right, quebert. the average user doesn't install anything...all their games are flash.

 

[QueBert]

you're right, quebert. the average user doesn't install anything...all their games are flash.

And you think the average computer user plays Flash games? LOL right, a lot play Farmville, but compared to how many people own computers the numbers not really that big. I would bet money the majority of computer owners don't play games period.

 

[zerocool84]

the average person surfs the web, emails and that's really about it. My mom is am average user, when she looks at my iPod Touch she goes "wow, that does everything!" What Apple haters don't understand is the normal user runs their PC as it came from the factory and never installs shit on it. You keep saying there's no way it replaces anything in anyone's home. But the survey said 44% of people who were going to get Netbooks got or are getting an iPad instead. Hell it does 90% of what I do and I'm a power user. To make a claim there's too much it won't do is laughable because most people are about from far from power users as possible. The 44% statistic is proof a shit ton of people don't feel like you feel.

Did anybody even read the article??? Her statistics are dated Jan 10. The iPad wasn't even revealed until Jan 27. These statistics have nothing to do with the iPad. Did she make it all up or something?

 

[theeedude]

And you think the average computer user plays Flash games? LOL right, a lot play Farmville, but compared to how many people own computers the numbers not really that big. I would bet money the majority of computer owners don't play games period.

Flash is spontaneous, you go on a web site like armor games, you see something interesting, you play, no need to install anything sync anything, etc. When you are done, it's gone, not installed on your device. Cloud computing is where we are going, installed apps are 20th century.

 

[Deeko]

And you think the average computer user plays Flash games? LOL right, a lot play Farmville, but compared to how many people own computers the numbers not really that big. I would bet money the majority of computer owners don't play games period.

First off - I don't want to get into the whole Flash debate here. It has been done to death and has little to do with this thread. You just set yourself up for that one, so someone had to do it.

More importantly...I don't know why you feel it necessary to lie to us here. You know full well that the "average user" plays a lot of stupid games, be they Flash or installed (despite your claim in this thread that they do neither). Farmville wasn't the first, and it won't be the last. Do you think it was a tiny percentage of "power users" that made The Sims a top selling game a few years back? Be honest here, sport.

Your little "the majority of computer users don't play games period" quip is a worthless dodge of the issue and you know it. Strip off the "power user" and the "business user", and look at those statistics again. A bit higher percentage now, eh? And more representative of this "average user" that you keep harping about. You mention your mom, as if that anecdote at all relates to the larger trend, but just to disprove that "point", my mom is an "average user" too, and she plays a lot of games, both flash and installed. Oops! Better find another data point! Quick, what's your aunt do? Those three obviously represent everyone.

But I digress.

As far as productivity, the iPad isn't second to netbooks. Performance wise, I'd give the edge to the iPad, because everything on the ipad just "works fast". netbooks still feel sluggish, but that's because they have more to do.

So I guess apple's philosophy is: if it doesn't perform well, get rid of it. They want the user experience to be notch, bar none. Plus, If Apple made a netbook, it would be the netbook to get!

Heil Apple!

What did I tell you? You fed the trolls and its turned into an Apple fest.

This thread is about netbooks, kids. Netbooks. Not the iPad and why some of you love or hate it.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

Sure netbooks are great at pricing, but how much are these companies actually making on selling netbooks. I would be surprised if they made more than $50 on each unit sold.

 

[theeedude]

I don't think netbooks are going anywhere, it's like mobile phones with physical keyboards, some people are OK with just touch screen, others want a physical keyboard.

 

[zerocool84]

And you think the average computer user plays Flash games? LOL right, a lot play Farmville, but compared to how many people own computers the numbers not really that big. I would bet money the majority of computer owners don't play games period.

Yea that's why there's hardly any flash games out there right and those flash game sites are so small no one goes on them. You're funny, anything to TRY to prove your point. Millions of people obviously play flash games. If they didn't they wouldn't be so big. Like I've said many times, you Apple guys never think of anyone other than yourselves. Just because YOU guys don't do it or like it, it means no one else in the world does it or likes it either. Sorry but you're wrong as usual.

 

[WelshBloke]

I bet the numbers of netbooks will go down as the more powerful alternatives get cheaper.
I think netbooks are getting defined out of marketshare. The definition of a netbook is pretty strict.
For instance, my Acer 1810TZ is not a netbook even if it is of comparative size and price.

 

[QueBert]

Yea that's why there's hardly any flash games out there right and those flash game sites are so small no one goes on them. You're funny, anything to TRY to prove your point. Millions of people obviously play flash games. If they didn't they wouldn't be so big. Like I've said many times, you Apple guys never think of anyone other than yourselves. Just because YOU guys don't do it or like it, it means no one else in the world does it or likes it either. Sorry but you're wrong as usual.

I never said people don't play games, but the fact is the majority of people don't play them, and don't care about them. Let's say 10 million people play Flash games out of what 150+ million people who own computers in the US. Do you think the 90%+ who don't play games care? Obviously for the 10 million who like Flash games it will be important, and they'll probably buy a device that is capable of playing Flash games. But the average person would fall into the majority who never plays a single game. If so many people didn't like it Apple wouldn't have sold 2 millions iPads already. Flash & Flash games aren't important in the big scope of things to the typical computer user. Gamers don't account for more than a small fraction of computer users, I don't know what's so hard to understand about that.

 

[shortylickens]

Adios?

The netbook market will be around 40 million units in 2010. Just because the rapid growth phase has stopped doesn't mean they are gone by any means.

Well according to most basic business models, you can fail or you can grow. You can NOT stagnate. It doesnt happen in business. You have to keep growing and growing. Having said that, even 1% growth is perfectly acceptable.

 

[dguy6789]

And you think the average computer user plays Flash games?

Did you seriously just say that? Really? I can't believe it. You have to be trolling, there is just no way.

 

[Pliablemoose]

What did I tell you? You fed the trolls and its turned into an Apple fest.

This thread is about netbooks, kids. Netbooks. Not the iPad and why some of you love or hate it.

Did you read the linked article in the first post?

What was the title again?

How the iPad gobbles up netbook sales

 

[TheWart]

wow

I can see that the Android fanboys with their rabid hate of Apple has derailed yet another thread. well done...

 

[foghorn67]

wow

I can see that the Android fanboys with their rabid hate of Apple has derailed yet another thread. well done...

It was derailed the moment you decided to post a dumb article with irrelevant statistics. What? Really?
Oh and nevermind the resident Apple fanboi doing the same.

 

[TheWart]

It was derailed the moment you decided to post a dumb article with irrelevant statistics. What? Really?
Oh and nevermind the resident Apple fanboi doing the same.

Uh nice try. It is info from a Morgan Stanley research report...not some random blogger's opinions.

 

[Deeko]

Did you read the linked article in the first post?

What was the title again?

The thread is about the "decline" and "death" of the netbook. Does that mean we need to turn it into a "omgz the iPad is great, the average person doesn't care about flash LOLOLOLOL!" thread? Of course not.

 

[Deeko]

wow

I can see that the Android fanboys with their rabid hate of Apple has derailed yet another thread. well done...

It takes two to tango.