Addressing Our Obsession with Obesity

Amused

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Apparently I'm not the only one that sees a parallel in policy between smoking, drugs and obesity, and the dangers of the slippery slope that is the nanny-state...

Obesity Obsession

By Steven Milloy

?Obesity is catching up to tobacco as the leading cause of death in America,? proclaimed Centers for Disease Control and Prevention chief Julie Gerberding this week. ?Americans need to understand that overweight and obesity are literally killing us,? added Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson.

While it?s not disputed that severe obesity may shorten life, the real killer in this case seems to be the CDC?s statistical malpractice.

The excuse for the desperate health warning is a study in the March 10 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association in which the CDC claims that poor diet and physical inactivity caused 400,000 deaths in 2000. That estimate supposedly represents a 33 percent increase from the 1990 estimate and approaches the 435,000 deaths in 2000 supposedly attributable to smoking.

Now it?s been said that there are two types of statistics ¯ the kind you look up and the kind you make up. CDC?s body counts are definitely the latter.

The CDC produced its estimates with a statistical ruse called ?attributable risk? ¯ the fearmongers? method of choice for alarming the public with large body counts. Attributable risk could be the poster child for the saying, ?garbage in, garbage out.?

Without getting lost in the depths of statistical formulas, the key components of attributable risk calculations are statistical correlations between potential causes and effects, like overweight/obesity and premature death. But just because overweight/obesity and premature death might have been statistically correlated in some studies doesn?t mean that overweight/obesity has been proven to cause premature death.

In the few studies that have reported correlations between overweight/obesity and premature death, the vast majority of the correlations are small, not statistically significant (that is, they may be due to chance) and, in short, are unreliable. Reported correlations between overweight/obesity with premature death don?t start to inspire even minimal confidence until the obesity in question is extreme ¯ cases where you only need common sense, not statistical hocus-pocus.

Recklessly plugging unreliable statistical correlations into the attributable risk formula to produce sensational body counts can only be described as junk science.

But you don?t need to take my word about the folly of the CDC?s methodology.

As the New England Journal of Medicine editorialized in 1998, ?Although some claim that every year 300,000 deaths in the United States are caused by obesity, that figure is by no means well established. Not only is it derived from weak or incomplete data, but it is also called into question by the methodologic difficulties of determining which of many factors contribute to premature death.?

?Calculations of attributable risk are fraught with problems ? [and can produce] a nonsensical result,? noted the Journal.

And if all this is too technical, just ask yourself this question: Is it really plausible that the death rate from overweight and obesity has increased by 33 percent in the last 10 years?

Let?s not forget that despite all the hyperventilating about our health, the CDC reported last month (with much less fanfare) that U.S. life expectancy (search) ¯ the most objective measure of public health ¯ reached an all-time high of 77.4 years in 2002, up from about 75.2 in 1990.

So what gives? Why does the CDC insist on nagging us about our waistlines? Two reasons come to mind.

First, the previously mentioned New England Journal of Medicine editorial characterized the obesity obsession as an example of ?a tendency to medicalize behavior we do not approve of? ¯ that is, politically incorrect activities like over-eating, not exercising, smoking, drinking, and gun ownership.

Next, the public health establishment is simply running out of things to do. Preventing and controlling the spread of infectious disease, the traditional and primary mission of public health professionals, has largely been achieved. The relatively small number of infectious disease deaths that still occur annually, excluding AIDS-related deaths, decreased by 25 percent from 1990 to 2000, according to the CDC.

In former President Dwight D. Eisenhower?s famous 1961 speech warning us of a looming military-industrial complex, he also said, ?The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.?

Were Ike witnessing the health nannies? apparent desire to control our behavior and bigger budgets, he might warn us of the looming ?public health-industrial complex.?
 

thomsbrain

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i don't think people should allow themselves to get fat, but i don't think the government has any place telling us we can't if that's what we really want to do. but i don't think public heath care should pay for anything that the person inflicted on themselves other than accidental injury-type stuff. if you smoke or eat too many twinkies, the rest of us shouldn't have to pay for it.

i feel the same about drugs. public money shouldn't be spent either helping or hurting drug users. it's not the place of the government to be my nanny.
 

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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
i don't think people should allow themselves to get fat, but i don't think the government has any place telling us we can't if that's what we really want to do. but i don't think public heath care should pay for anything that the person inflicted on themselves other than accidental injury-type stuff. if you smoke or eat too many twinkies, the rest of us shouldn't have to pay for it.

i feel the same about drugs. public money shouldn't be spent either helping or hurting drug users. it's not the place of the government to be my nanny.

Bingo, which is why socialism is anathema to freedom. Very little of what any of us does in our day to day lives comes with no risk to our health. That risk, no matter how small, can be used to argue for a ban or regulation of just about anything we do on the basis of, "it costs us all money." The slippery slope has just begun. People like me were laughed at when we said the taxing and regulation of foods deemed "unhealthy" would be next...
 

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hmm, interesting reading.

Sadly I live in a country where the majority of people think it is the government's job to protect us from all harm and slap huge taxes on anything that could have a detrimental effect on our health.
A Fat Tax is already being considered here and the way things seem to be going this could be just the beginning.
 

Mani

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Obesity has to be as bad or worse than smoking in terms of cost to society. But politicians don't want to do anything about it because so damn many people are fat and it would be political suicide to take a harsh stance on it.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Mani
Obesity has to be as bad or worse than smoking in terms of cost to society. But politicians don't want to do anything about it because so damn many people are fat and it would be political suicide to take a harsh stance on it.

But where does it stop? What activity or substance is without some measure of risk?

Like I said, this is why socialism is the number one danger to our freedom today. The immediate knee-jerk reaction in a socialist society is to stop people from costing other people money "unfairly." But where is the line drawn?

Folks, there is a slippery slope, and we are at the top and gaining speed.

Our freedom would be in no danger if we stopped allowing the irresponsible to rely on public funding, and brought back the charity as the primary method of help. Nobody was dying in the streets before LBJ's failed "Great Society" socialist plan.
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Mani
Obesity has to be as bad or worse than smoking in terms of cost to society. But politicians don't want to do anything about it because so damn many people are fat and it would be political suicide to take a harsh stance on it.

But where does it stop? What activity or substance is without some measure of risk?

Like I said, this is why socialism is the number one danger to our freedom today. The immediate knee-jerk reaction in a socialist society is to stop people from costing other people money "unfairly." But where is the line drawn?

Folks, there is a slippery slope, and we are at the top and gaining speed.

Our freedom would be in no danger if we stopped allowing the irresponsible to rely on public funding, and brought back the charity as the primary method of help. Nobody was dying in the streets before LBJ's failed "Great Society" socialist plan.

I agree - I definitely don't advocate another government crutch for people to get healthier. But I do think obesity needs to be at least discussed on a national level as a major problem that this country is facing.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Mani
Obesity has to be as bad or worse than smoking in terms of cost to society. But politicians don't want to do anything about it because so damn many people are fat and it would be political suicide to take a harsh stance on it.

But where does it stop? What activity or substance is without some measure of risk?

Like I said, this is why socialism is the number one danger to our freedom today. The immediate knee-jerk reaction in a socialist society is to stop people from costing other people money "unfairly." But where is the line drawn?

Folks, there is a slippery slope, and we are at the top and gaining speed.

Our freedom would be in no danger if we stopped allowing the irresponsible to rely on public funding, and brought back the charity as the primary method of help. Nobody was dying in the streets before LBJ's failed "Great Society" socialist plan.

I agree - I definitely don't advocate another government crutch for people to get healthier. But I do think obesity needs to be at least discussed on a national level as a major problem that this country is facing.

Oh yes, on that I agree. In fact, promoting (not providing) the general welfare is one of the basic missions of our government and is defined in the Constitution. So education and ad campaigns are a great idea.

But we all know it wont stop there... :|