adam and eve incest?

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Nil

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<< ok since i seen alot of topics on religon and stuff my question is this if God made Adam and Eve and had Cain and Abel (sorry if i misspelled their names) are we all incest? and if the Flood happen are we now incest of Noah's? cans omeone please tell me the story of this thanks... and i Hope linuxboy or Elledan post here they know their stuff ;) >>




I think what you really want to know is if its ok to do your own sister.

Pics?



(Just a little humor.. please be kind!)
 

Pastore

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<< The coccyx, wisdom teeth, 95% of our DNA apparently being merely 'junk'-DNA, children who are born with a tail, or a fur, or a sixth finger on a hand etc. >>



what about this stuff? 95% of our DNA is junk? i dont deny that, but whats the difference? are you saying that all of these things can only be the result of evolution? there is no way you can say this. how do you or anyone else know that these things havent existed since the beginning. you cant
 
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I read these threads here, and I become so glad I am saved. Heaven will truly be blissfull if all the arrogant, close-minded people are stuck in Hell.
 

Elledan

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<< The coccyx, wisdom teeth, 95% of our DNA apparently being merely 'junk'-DNA, children who are born with a tail, or a fur, or a sixth finger on a hand etc. >>



what about this stuff? 95% of our DNA is junk? i dont deny that, but whats the difference?
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What do you mean?


<< are you saying that all of these things can only be the result of evolution? >>

There might be another theory, but so far evolution appears to be the best theory we have.


<< there is no way you can say this. how do you or anyone else know that these things havent existed since the beginning. you cant >>

Ah, so you're one of those guys who think that all fossils of dinosaurs etc. have been created by gods and that anything else which is evidence for evolution has been created by these gods as well.

Got any proof to back this up?

Sorry, evidence is evidence. As soon as we are getting so paranoid that we think that we can't even trust evidence for something because 'it might have been created by these gods to make it look like evidence', we might just as well abandon science, give up anything we've learned and made so far and return to a livingstyle like that of the Humans of the stone age.

Besides, I still don't see why anyone would prefer the 'god-theory' over the 'aliens-from-another-universe-theory'.
 

zeruty

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<< Evidence for evolution? Heck, even Humans are riddled with clues! The coccyx, wisdom teeth, 95% of our DNA apparently being merely 'junk'-DNA, children who are born with a tail, or a fur, or a sixth finger on a hand etc. >>



Don't forget the tonsils and your small toe(which is slowly disappearing as we speak!)
 

petrek

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KK, I can't stress enough the need for personal research. Here are a couple of links for the issues being discussed after our last posts, link 1, link 2. You may need to look through the various articles up to the 9th and 10th pages of links, or you may need to change the wording of your search to find links that directly speak to a concern of yours in regards to these issues. Either way, personal research is a must, the world is filled with false statements, and false facts (or assumed facts, or "facts", or lies), and the only way to know who is being honest and who is being dishonest is to do the research yourself, and come to your own conclusion based on the evidence available as to who is telling the truth, and who is lying.

Later...
Dave
 

Sunner

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Listen to me everyone!

God spoke to me in a dream last night, and told me that I would build a great palace in His honor, and that all of you would help me by sending me all your money!

He also told me that I should live in this palace along with Britney Spears, to make sure it stays clean.

Oh and if you want evidence that Im truely a prophet, I parted the lake by my house today, if you weren't there to see it, dont worry, I'll do it again once my work is done and the palace is finnished.

So get those wallets out!(Note: Checks are NOT accepted)
 

NetCadet

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I asked someone who considers themselves to be an expert on the subject this very question some time ago. She has performed an ongoing biblical/scientific study of these types of things, most of which can be found here:

www.numbers1317.org

Here is what I was told:

Technically, yes, the children of Adam and Eve did commit incest, however it didn't matter as it wasn't really an issue back then. In that time, the human gene pool was pure enough that incest did not result in any birth abnormailities. By comparison, today our gene pool is so convoluted and polluted that incest can be a major problem, and hence isn't really a sin, but a statute by which we live.
 

skylark

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<< I asked someone who considers themselves to be an expert on the subject this very question some time ago. She has performed an ongoing biblical/scientific study of these types of things, most of which can be found here:

www.numbers1317.org

Here is what I was told:

Technically, yes, the children of Adam and Eve did commit incest, however it didn't matter as it wasn't really an issue back then. In that time, the human gene pool was pure enough that incest did not result in any birth abnormailities. By comparison, today our gene pool is so convoluted and polluted that incest can be a major problem, and hence isn't really a sin, but a statute by which we live.
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You've got to be joking..... "gene pool convoluted"?
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Petrek:



<< God gave man the freedom to choose, some men choose to manufacture candy laced with cyanide, which God does not want them to do, but they have the freedom to do it. God also watches over everyone on earth, and is willing to give the cure to anyone who asks. After all, it was His death that provided the cure to anyone who asks. >>



A God who gives free will but turns around and says the person life's was already predetermined [past, present, future]?


About Adam disobeying God, please tell your version, Linuxboy and Petrek. I want to see if there is consistency since I"ve noticed there wasn't any in the last thread regarding fire and brimstone..

 

jobberd

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I thought it was pretty much agreed by much of the Christian religion that the Old Testament was not to be taken literally, but as symbolic stories teaching lessons and morals. Is this not the case? Ever since high school, every religion teacher has told me that (yes, some of them were complete nitwits, but others had university majors in religion, were devote christians, and were wise)
 

petrek

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Skylark are you implying that you don't make choices?

As for the reason that me and linuxboy disagree, the answer is quite simple, I believe the Bible is the literal word of God (absolute Truth) and Linuxboy does not. Salvation and discipleship are NOT one in the same.

Adam willfully chose to disobey a direct order from God, and thus Adam sinned.

Dave
 

Elledan

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<< Skylark are you implying that you don't make choices?

As for the reason that me and linuxboy disagree, the answer is quite simple, I believe the Bible is the literal word of God (absolute Truth) and Linuxboy does not. Salvation and discipleship are NOT one in the same.

Adam willfully chose to disobey a direct order from God, and thus Adam sinned.

Dave
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Why did you choose the Christian religious ideology over the zillion other religious ideologies? Heck, why not even consider aliens from another universe being responsible for everything you give credit for to your precious 'god', which is a mere figment of the mind.
 

FelixDeCat

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>Why did you choose the Christian religious ideology over the zillion other religious ideologies? Heck, why not even consider aliens from another universe being responsible for everything you give credit for to your precious 'god', which is a mere figment of the mind.


He would have chosen the buddyist religous ideology over the zillion other relgious ideologies, but he didnt want to make people laugh as you have.
 

skylark

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<< Skylark are you implying that you don't make choices?

As for the reason that me and linuxboy disagree, the answer is quite simple, I believe the Bible is the literal word of God (absolute Truth) and Linuxboy does not. Salvation and discipleship are NOT one in the same.

Adam willfully chose to disobey a direct order from God, and thus Adam sinned.

Dave
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Why should I make a choice? I don't need to. There's a right or wrong, and one has to pick a side when one can come to an absolute conclusion? My choice cannot be defined within your sphere of understanding.

I see.. Then if I had to choose, I would choose Linuxboy. I will willfully disobey your God.. :D