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Acura Car...not the TL, but the RL...

Chunkee

Chunkee

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There is a used one hear at a Lexus dealer. we have two minivans and do not need two any more and thought about a nicer used sedan for my wife and I to drive when we do not have the brood with us. No one talks about the RLs much around here...mostly TLs... It looks like the RLs do not get that great of gas mileage and maybe so so on reliability? Here is the car.


http://knoxville.craigslist.org/ctd/1048452713.html

Any of you have one care to comment?
 
Its a nice car, but not exactly the best value for money (comparing brand new)
its competitors are M35/45, 5 series, GS all are better when new.

If the price is nice though it is still a good car. Its resale probably is less compared to the mentioned competition because its not very popular
 
**EDIT**

nvm. I didn't read your title correctly.


^ Pretty much what he said. For the price, I would look at something else. Maybe a nice TL-S if you can find a low mileage one. We love ours. Not as much power and the G35, but it's roomier and still gets pretty good mileage.

Also...
WOOT!!! 1000th post. Only took nearly 9 yrs.
 
epa says it gets 16/24, which is better than the g35 at 16/23. and that's with awd for the acura and rwd for the infiniti. amazing considering the RL weighs ~500 lbs more than the g35. the infiniti will be more fun to drive and hold value a little better, but the acura has already taken most of the depreciation hit, so it won't be too bad. the acura is bigger than the g, though almost all of it is in the backseat. the G actually has the larger trunk.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
epa says it gets 16/24, which is better than the g35 at 16/23. and that's with awd for the acura and rwd for the infiniti. amazing considering the RL weighs ~500 lbs more than the g35. the infiniti will be more fun to drive and hold value a little better, but the acura has already taken most of the depreciation hit, so it won't be too bad. the acura is bigger than the g, though almost all of it is in the backseat. the G actually has the larger trunk.
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Larger would be a bit better. I guess we could go drive it and see how we like it..TLs are pretty small... would love a 5 series BMW but very costly...
 
Originally posted by: Chunkee
Originally posted by: ElFenix
epa says it gets 16/24, which is better than the g35 at 16/23. and that's with awd for the acura and rwd for the infiniti. amazing considering the RL weighs ~500 lbs more than the g35. the infiniti will be more fun to drive and hold value a little better, but the acura has already taken most of the depreciation hit, so it won't be too bad. the acura is bigger than the g, though almost all of it is in the backseat. the G actually has the larger trunk.
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Larger would be a bit better. I guess we could go drive it and see how we like it..TLs are pretty small... would love a 5 series BMW but very costly...
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G35 is even smaller.
 
It's an ok car. It's just that it's not really in the same class as the other cars in its class. I mean, it doesn't offer the same power as $50k cars, nor handling, nor overall performance. The reliability isn't as good as you would expect from Honda either (you already mentioned that). All of that's reflected by its sales and its resale. For comparison, an 05 Accord EX (the top trim level) ranges from $4-6k less, which is pretty shitty considering their MSRP's new are enough to buy a second brand new Accord.

It does have a lot of nice gadgets in it though. I guess it depends what you want. The RL is a large sedan. It's not a performance vehicle by any means. The TL is a sporty midsize sedan.
 
The RL is too little for too much. I saw it up close at the exhibition but there were other cars that seemed more exciting. The TL however makes you feel like taking a dump every time you see it.
 
I bought a 2005 RL new 4 years ago. It has been problem free except that I live in the boonies so the onboard phone is iffy. For the miles on the one in the link you posted, unless there is an extended warranty, I'd say $20,00 is a fair price and would recommend it.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
epa says it gets 16/24, which is better than the g35 at 16/23. and that's with awd for the acura and rwd for the infiniti. amazing considering the RL weighs ~500 lbs more than the g35. the infiniti will be more fun to drive and hold value a little better, but the acura has already taken most of the depreciation hit, so it won't be too bad. the acura is bigger than the g, though almost all of it is in the backseat. the G actually has the larger trunk.
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Real life mpg: I have never seen 16mpg. I average 20-22 year round. I do live in the country though. On trips of 1.2-1.5K I get 25-28mpg. That is on 89 octane. The RL is a very comfortable long distance car.
 
Originally posted by: Chunkee

Larger would be a bit better. I guess we could go drive it and see how we like it..TLs are pretty small... would love a 5 series BMW but very costly...
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the front seat of the G35 is fine. you said for you and your wife to drive around when the brood isn't around. you'll be fine.

Originally posted by: woodie1
Real life mpg: I have never seen 16mpg. I average 20-22 year round. I do live in the country though. On trips of 1.2-1.5K I get 25-28mpg. That is on 89 octane. The RL is a very comfortable long distance car.
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fwiw the newer EPA ratings seem a bit tougher than real life.
 
I test drove the RL when it first came out, with the intention of buying one. This was the car that Honda used to introduce it's SH-AWD system that took them a decade or so in development. It handles very well, probably best out of the sedans in its class, but it lacks power and that's why it didn't sell well. Despite it was the first Japanese car being advertise at 300BHP and broken an unwritten rule about the 275BHP number, it didn't feel quick.

The problem with Honda is that they should go all out on flagship cars, they got the SH-AWD down, but didn't pay much attention to power or interior appointment. Don't get me wrong, the interior was fine, but it wasn't befitting of the price tag at the time.

Test drive it, you would love it. You won't get anyone to notice the car, but that sometimes is a good thing. It drives and rides nicely.
 
Originally posted by: thecritic
Original link doesn't work.
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Because the link is from a 2 week old craigslist ad...

The Acura RL is legitimately a good car. Everyone overlooks it because its not flashy, but it drives very well, handles very well, is very reliable, and overall is a great buy if you like a techie AWD reliable medium size sedan.

The M35 has many more gadgets(lane keep, active cruise, 3D gps, etc), the E class has more prestige and the BMW... well the BMW looks like crap and just about any BMW 5 series with the auto drives pretty badly too, The 525, 530i are easily worst in class, especially for the price, but I guess the 545/550i are decently fun, haven't driven any 535i though. The Audi? Beautiful car, great interior but it'll go through electronics faster than Rush Limbaugh goes through oxycodone.
 
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: thecritic
Original link doesn't work.
Click to expand...

Because the link is from a 2 week old craigslist ad...

The Acura RL is legitimately a good car. Everyone overlooks it because its not flashy, but it drives very well, handles very well, is very reliable, and overall is a great buy if you like a techie AWD reliable medium size sedan.

The M35 has many more gadgets(lane keep, active cruise, 3D gps, etc), the E class has more prestige and the BMW... well the BMW looks like crap and just about any BMW 5 series with the auto drives pretty badly too, The 525, 530i are easily worst in class, especially for the price, but I guess the 545/550i are decently fun, haven't driven any 535i though. The Audi? Beautiful car, great interior but it'll go through electronics faster than Rush Limbaugh goes through oxycodone.
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It is amazing to me, as stated about the problems of these high end cars, that people buy them... I guess I tend to favor reliability and function over flash and prestige... one would think, at that price point, that they could make the car like some of the others, that need no maintenance until 100,000 miles, with no real major issues.

Why do the kraut cars have so many electrical problems? I see this over and over from VW, Audi and BMW... has electricity changed so much for the years? Switches, relays, led lights, motors... ? So much they they fail as much as they do...

 
Originally posted by: Chunkee
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: thecritic
Original link doesn't work.
Click to expand...

Because the link is from a 2 week old craigslist ad...

The Acura RL is legitimately a good car. Everyone overlooks it because its not flashy, but it drives very well, handles very well, is very reliable, and overall is a great buy if you like a techie AWD reliable medium size sedan.

The M35 has many more gadgets(lane keep, active cruise, 3D gps, etc), the E class has more prestige and the BMW... well the BMW looks like crap and just about any BMW 5 series with the auto drives pretty badly too, The 525, 530i are easily worst in class, especially for the price, but I guess the 545/550i are decently fun, haven't driven any 535i though. The Audi? Beautiful car, great interior but it'll go through electronics faster than Rush Limbaugh goes through oxycodone.
Click to expand...

It is amazing to me, as stated about the problems of these high end cars, that people buy them... I guess I tend to favor reliability and function over flash and prestige... one would think, at that price point, that they could make the car like some of the others, that need no maintenance until 100,000 miles, with no real major issues.

Why do the kraut cars have so many electrical problems? I see this over and over from VW, Audi and BMW... has electricity changed so much for the years? Switches, relays, led lights, motors... ? So much they they fail as much as they do...
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Germany just never got the hang of them. VW/Audi is by far the worst but its not like BMW and Mercedes don't have their share of problems (The head unit on my Merc stopped working 1 month after I bought it (2006), the GPS Nav intermittently(somewhat rarely) goes out)

It's probably just corporate design culture. Toyota and Honda through the 70s, 80s, 90s and early 2000s kept it simple, Engine+transmission+radio+possibly automatic climate control.

A good example is their top of the line coupes The 60k(1992 dollars SC400) v.s. a 100K(1994 dollars S500 Coupe).

The SC400 had projector headlights, climate control, 4 speed auto and a 6 disc cd changer. It was a simple car and nowadays, 200k miles is considered barely broken in, these cars go FOREVER with no repairs(maybe a $50 trunk shock and a $6 gasket for the power steering pump)

The S500 Coupe on the other hand had trick motorized extending seatbelts, buttons and switches to control EVERYTHING and at 200K miles can be considered end of life without some expensive repairs coming up. You're not going to see a S500 Coupe beater, but theres many many faded paint, SC400 beaters running mechanically perfectly.

The Germans tend to engineer the hell out of everything, Lexus tried to keep it simple and nowadays it shows whit how many Sc400s are on the road (as well as abuse able to be taken) versus how many S500 coupes are on the road per 100 originally sold.

New, no doubt the S500 was more luxurious and more fun with all the toys but as they age, more crap just means more crap to go wrong.
 
Originally posted by: Chunkee
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: thecritic
Original link doesn't work.
Click to expand...

Because the link is from a 2 week old craigslist ad...

The Acura RL is legitimately a good car. Everyone overlooks it because its not flashy, but it drives very well, handles very well, is very reliable, and overall is a great buy if you like a techie AWD reliable medium size sedan.

The M35 has many more gadgets(lane keep, active cruise, 3D gps, etc), the E class has more prestige and the BMW... well the BMW looks like crap and just about any BMW 5 series with the auto drives pretty badly too, The 525, 530i are easily worst in class, especially for the price, but I guess the 545/550i are decently fun, haven't driven any 535i though. The Audi? Beautiful car, great interior but it'll go through electronics faster than Rush Limbaugh goes through oxycodone.
Click to expand...

It is amazing to me, as stated about the problems of these high end cars, that people buy them... I guess I tend to favor reliability and function over flash and prestige... one would think, at that price point, that they could make the car like some of the others, that need no maintenance until 100,000 miles, with no real major issues.

Why do the kraut cars have so many electrical problems? I see this over and over from VW, Audi and BMW... has electricity changed so much for the years? Switches, relays, led lights, motors... ? So much they they fail as much as they do...
Click to expand...

I've always wonder why they dont strive to try and improve the areas that they're having problems on. Year after year they're always in the same ranking according to reliability reports while other manufacturers are making fairly big strides (ford, cadalliac, hyundai...).
 
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