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BudAshes

Lifer
Jul 20, 2003
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Yawn. Did you break the law? If you did then that's your fault. If you didn't show up in court and get it thrown out and move on with your life.

God I hate some of nerds here. If you actually left your house and had a life you would realize what a pain in the ass this process is and how much inconvenience he now has to face. I got 3 chp tickets this year and beat 2 of them because they were complete bs. Wasted dozens of hours of my time and in one case I had to drive long distance to the court. I hadn't had a ticket in 12 years before this. Cops have gone insane about tickets in the last year because of budget issues and it's fucking good tax paying citizens of their time and money.
 

Thebobo

Lifer
Jun 19, 2006
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OMFG Hypocrites!

I rarely see cops use their blinkers!

I always see them tailgating people!

This pisses me off to no end!

Thank you
 

TecHNooB

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Sep 10, 2005
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God I hate some of nerds here. If you actually left your house and had a life you would realize what a pain in the ass this process is and how much inconvenience he now has to face. I got 3 chp tickets this year and beat 2 of them because they were complete bs. Wasted dozens of hours of my time and in one case I had to drive long distance to the court. I hadn't had a ticket in 12 years before this. Cops have gone insane about tickets in the last year because of budget issues and it's fucking good tax paying citizens of their time and money.

:thumbsup:
 

Jeff7

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Posting in an "I got a ticket for this!" thread that hasn't backfired on the OP...yet.

Actually, pretty petty thing for the cop to ticket you over. If I could afford it, I would go to court and ask the judge and ticketing officer why Texas law enforcement feels it is necessary to bleed it's citizens dry with such predatory ticketing practices. Make sure they understand this only pisses people off and make them vote against increasing funding for law enforcement. Then make an appointment with someone in authority at that particular law enforcement agency to ask the same question, and relay the results to your local media.
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A passing thought: I wonder what'd happen if ticket money went to some other cause, like a charity selected by random number generator, something along those lines - a way of decoupling the ticket revenue from the people who are enforcing its collection.

I need a large pool of guinea pigs. :\
1) Monitor ticket revenues.
2) Monitor weight of police officers. (To see if they get more complacent in general.)
3) Monitor number of tickets given.
4) Monitor type of tickets given.
5) Monitor number of traffic accidents.

Revenues down, weight up, number of tickets down, type of tickets = easier ones to catch, number of accidents...not sure. Number of accidents = people more at ease about enforcement, but also possibly driving more wrecklessly.
 

lowrider69

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At this point I'm thinking he's filling his quota or trying to make some extra money. I decide to ask to check.

Of course that's the case, that's the case most of the time for shit like this. You really think they care about driver safety? lmao.
 

HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
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Same here. Using your turn signal on the expressway is more of an invitation for people to speed up to keep you from being able to change lanes

That happens around here as well.

Glad some people around here aren't idiots. To those that support the ticket or the cops or what was done. FU just like that cop.

This weekend was a royal pain for me. This ticket, a light accident, and a near miss accident.


Light accident was because I was coming off the highway. Access road has to yield to me, but it was backed up from the light. No spot to move over. So I wait on the ramp. Light turns green and I move forward. A guy in a mini-van doesn't move as the truck ahead of him pulls away so I see a spot I can finally get out of the off ramp and into lane at. So I pull in front of the mini-van with the blinker going. We are about 20 car lengths before the light, so a good 600' or so. I start accelerating to follow behind the truck in front of me and the van behind me starts to move to follow after me. As we come up to the light it turns yellow. The truck starts to speed up to make it through. I know I can make it in behind him through the yellow so I start to speed as well.

Soon as the truck enters the intersection, while the light is still yellow, he slams on the break. I was far enough behind and my little car I was able to react. I brake and do not hit the truck who is not at a complete stop in the middle of the intersection while the light is STILL yellow. The van behind be isn't as fast as stopping. He hits me from behind. Lucky it was a light tap. Still I was as a bit upset. So I get out of the car to see if there was any damage to my vehicle and the guy gets out of the van. First thing the guy does is start yelling at me as if it's my fault for pulling in front of him.

WTF? I said, "Dude I have right of way for exiting the freeway while you have a big yield sign. You were not initially moving when I pulled in front of you 600 feet back there. The only reason you hit me was because you thought you could get through the yellow light and sped up without knowing your stopping distance. You hit me mother fucker and if you don't shut the fuck up I'm going to kick your ass in front of your girl there in your joke of a minivan."

Luckily I had no damage to my car really, and he had some black marks on the front of his white van from some paint coming off my car I think. That was the "light" accident.

The second almost accident came this morning. On my way to work I enter a 2 lane per direction road. The road though has only markings for lane distinctions at certain points. It is kind of a back road area, but the road is easily wide enough for more than 4 cars abreast at all points along the road. So this lady who is in the "inside" lane is coming up to an area where there is a left and right hand turns offs. I see her start to slow down and drift off to the right. She gets to going real slow and I think she is turning to the right at the side street entrance there. As I go to pass her on the left, she pulls a hard turn to the left instead to turn there. I'm guessing her drifting off to the right as her "swinging out" for the left turn? Either way she had no blinker going and was talking on the phone. If I hadn't been paying attention I was have been slammed into the side. As it was I barely managed to avoid being hit with a hard break and left hand turn on a slippery wet road. She then proceeds to honk and cuss me out while still talking on the phone. Speaking of which it is illegal by city ordinance around here to talk on cell phones while driving. So she cuts across lanes, doesn't use a blinker, talks on the cell phone while driving, and thinks this is my fault for the near miss? fuck her!
 
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I think tickets that get thrown out should be deducted from the cops who wrote thems paycheck. Keep them from writing bs tickets.
 

bobdole369

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"Not signalling my intent for a long enough period of time.'

srsly wtf??? Willing to bet with no written statute you can safely fight this by just opening the book of statutes and reading the traffic code section.

However this is Texas, and that might get you the death penalty.

EDIT: Noting that a statute regarding "turning" was found earlier in this thread. Look hard and look carefully. Might need to go to the law library and look up precedent cases if you want to go in guns blazing.
 
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Baked

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Dec 28, 2004
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I live 3 miles from my work. I take a stretch of Pacific Coast Highway where the cops love to sit in parking lots and pull over people for going over the speed limit. There isn't a day/night where I don't see some poor bastard get pull over by the police. That's why I take side route. Suckers.
 

bobdole369

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Posting in an "I got a ticket for this!" thread that hasn't backfired on the OP...yet.

Actually, pretty petty thing for the cop to ticket you over. If I could afford it, I would go to court and ask the judge and ticketing officer why Texas law enforcement feels it is necessary to bleed it's citizens dry with such predatory ticketing practices. Make sure they understand this only pisses people off and make them vote against increasing funding for law enforcement. Then make an appointment with someone in authority at that particular law enforcement agency to ask the same question, and relay the results to your local media.

Sure, it will be a colossal waste of your time and money, but it could be the start of some change. Law enforcement agencies nation wide are embracing this nickle and dime tactic to increase their revenue as budgets tighten.

In fact, as a former newspaper journalist, I think this would be an excellent story to do: What strategies are public agencies with the ability to cite using to generate funds as their budgets shrink.



In this great state (America's Wang) - I got a ticket two years back for... Wait for it:

Crossing the gore.

WTF??!! I pulled onto the FL Turnpike, behind roughly 15 cars and a dump truck moving at like 35 in the acceleration lane. I said "fuck this" and gunned it and crossed the "V-shaped area dividing the acceleration lane, and the main lanes of travel on a highway"

Florida Highway Patrol was in that pile of 15 cars and the officer was fucking pissed for some reason.

"Sir, do you see those lines painted back there? They are there for a reason! They are there to funnel traffic onto the highway in an orderly and safe manner! And you with your impatience are screwing it all up!"

I deserved that ticket, but plead no contest - begging the mercy of the court - got it down from $185 + 2 points to $50 and 0 points adj withheld.
 

Saint Nick

Lifer
Jan 21, 2005
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In fact, as a former newspaper journalist, I think this would be an excellent story to do: What strategies are public agencies with the ability to cite using to generate funds as their budgets shrink.

As much of an interesting read that would be...what public agency would give up their (secret) practices of generating revenue? None. The government is crooked I tell ya!!!
 

EagleKeeper

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If you feel that this is a BS ticket, challenge it

You have stated, the police officer agreed that you did signal your intention.

Ask for how long.
Ask what the speed you were traveling.
Have the court compute the distance.

Ask for what the law requires for time/distance.

After tossed out; ask the judge if you have any recourse for having the court's time wasted. Put the pressure on them. :biggrin:


Disclaimer:
All the above is based on your version of the story
 
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waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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IF thats what really happened fight it!

sounds like a BS ticket to me.
 

feralkid

Lifer
Jan 28, 2002
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Posting in an "I got a ticket for this!" thread that hasn't backfired on the OP...yet.

Actually, pretty petty thing for the cop to ticket you over. If I could afford it, I would go to court and ask the judge and ticketing officer why Texas law enforcement feels it is necessary to bleed it's citizens dry with such predatory ticketing practices. Make sure they understand this only pisses people off and make them vote against increasing funding for law enforcement. Then make an appointment with someone in authority at that particular law enforcement agency to ask the same question, and relay the results to your local media.

Sure, it will be a colossal waste of your time and money, but it could be the start of some change. Law enforcement agencies nation wide are embracing this nickle and dime tactic to increase their revenue as budgets tighten.

In fact, as a former newspaper journalist, I think this would be an excellent story to do: What strategies are public agencies with the ability to cite using to generate funds as their budgets shrink.

Fired for improper use of apostrophe?
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Man, I could never live in a place where people get pulled over for nonsense like that... Hell, around here you'd be lucky if every 3rd driver even uses their turn signals at all.

This, as lame and horrid as the OP's "violation," not a god damn driver on our roads realizes that the shaft protruding from their steering column is used to activate the turn signals, let alone that it is required use.

Honestly, I wish that cop were patrolling up here, lol.
 

whattaguy

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Jun 3, 2004
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I think tickets that get thrown out should be deducted from the cops who wrote thems paycheck. Keep them from writing bs tickets.

Unfortunately, the opposite is probably true. The cops who actually show up to court in my city get paid OT for their time.
 

bobdole369

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Dec 15, 2004
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If you feel that this is a BS ticket, challenge it

You have stated, the police officer agreed that you did signal your intention.

Ask for how long.
Ask what the speed you were traveling.
Have the court compute the distance.

Ask for what the law requires for time/distance.

After tossed out; ask the judge if you have any recourse for having the court's time wasted. Put the pressure on them. :biggrin:


Disclaimer:
All the above is based on your version of the story

This is very poor advice.
This isn't how you win.

The court has nothing to prove, and will provide no assistance to a pro se defendant as they are required to remain neutral. They aren't required to explain, interpret, or otherwise give you any sort of leeway, and they certainly won't do any math for you.

The state is required to prove that you violated a statute, and the officers testimony is likely the only proof they will provide.

You will offer your proof that you did comply with the law, with your testimony, and your evidence. The best you'll likely be able to do is your own sworn affidavit.

Absent any certified measuring devices, or surveys, its going to come down to your word against the citing officers. Good luck. You'll need to find a few things:

1. the actual statute the officer claims you violated.
2. any prior cases decided in your jurisdiction.
3. How to proceed.

Your best bet however is to simply hire a lawyer.
 

PingSpike

Lifer
Feb 25, 2004
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Realistically, it doesn't matter what happened. The cop decided to fine you for some reason or other and unless he doesn't show up in court you're going to lose.