Actual message from Sr Engineering Manager to IT Department

dhslammer

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edit: Hidden amongst an email request for the admin password was this gem, apparently designed to allay any fears that an engineer might screw the pooch:

"The engineering department understands the technicalities of computers and networks and absolutely would not jeopardize the integrity of the network by doing dumb things."

Of course not.

Does anyone else here support Engineers in an IT capacity? Then you feel my pain. THe only thing worse is supporting lawyers.

Wanted to share a good chuckle with you guys. That is all.
 

Drakkon

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i say (if your in the IT dept) monitor his comp and at the SLIGHTEST sign of any "jepordization" of integrity or otherwize you report his ass :D
 

Phoenix86

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I have supported software engineers.

edit: they don't know sh!t about the OS or hardware... :confused:
 

beer

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Originally posted by: Phoenix86
I have supported software engineers.

edit: they don't know sh!t about the OS or hardware... :confused:

And they still probably make more $$ than you. Some things are more important, and I love it when IT folk shoot these across the forums to stroke their ego.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: beer
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
I have supported software engineers.

edit: they don't know sh!t about the OS or hardware... :confused:

And they still probably make more $$ than you. Some things are more important, and I love it when IT folk shoot these across the forums to stroke their ego.

:laugh:
 

Rogue

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Think engineers are tough, try Colonels and Generals in the military. They equate the entire system with guns. It either shoots, or it doesn't. If it doesn't, people might die so it better damn well be fixed.
 

cliftonite

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Slightly OT, but I find that the term "engineer" is a bit too loosly used. Seems anyone who gets past the 2nd tier of tech support is all of a sudden a network engineer, quality engineer, database engineer, microsoft engineer, adobe engineer, customer support engineer, etc. Most of them dont even have a college degree :confused:
 

Triumph

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IT is a support industry. You're only job is to make sure others can do theirs. If you don't like it, find a new line of work.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: cliftonite
Slightly OT, but I find that the term "engineer" is a bit too loosly used. Seems anyone who gets past the 2nd tier of tech support is all of a sudden a network engineer, quality engineer, database engineer, microsoft engineer, adobe engineer, customer support engineer, etc. Most of them dont even have a college degree :confused:


What does a college degree have to do with being an engineer?

You're acting like a college degree is rare these days, possessed by a select few elite. Not so. You still have plenty of idiots in the country, just nowadays they have a piece of paper to wave around. Meanwhile, the richest guy in the world is probably some guy you look down on for not having that piece of paper.

Kids these days are funny. It's humorous watching kids talk like they're special or something. They'd be more humble if they were a little smarter, because then they'd be smart enough to realize how much they don't know.
 

MrDudeMan

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: cliftonite
Slightly OT, but I find that the term "engineer" is a bit too loosly used. Seems anyone who gets past the 2nd tier of tech support is all of a sudden a network engineer, quality engineer, database engineer, microsoft engineer, adobe engineer, customer support engineer, etc. Most of them dont even have a college degree :confused:


What does a college degree have to do with being an engineer?

You're acting like a college degree is rare these days, possessed by a select few elite. Not so. You still have plenty of idiots in the country, just nowadays they have a piece of paper to wave around. Meanwhile, the richest guy in the world is probably some guy you look down on for not having that piece of paper.

Kids these days are funny. It's humorous watching kids talk like they're special or something.

he is right though. it is insane how many professions call themselves "engineers" now.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Bigsm00th

he is right though. it is insane how many professions call themselves "engineers" now.

Yeah, the term is thrown around too much. It's even in my job title and I don't engineer anything at all.

But I was ranting about how comical it is for someone like me to come onto a website filled with kids, and hear them all talk about how special they are because they're getting a degree in computer science or some crap. I'm old enough to see just how naive they are. It's almost as bad as seeing a bunch of 10 year olds talk about how they're all going to be professional baseball players. Anyone that's a little older knows that's not going to happen, but then teenagers believe they're going to stand out from everybody by getting a very common degree. It's just naive.

Convincing a kid in college that his degree isn't going to make him rich is just as easy as convincing a 10 year old that he's not going to be the pitcher of the Yankees.
 

Martin

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Oh please, don't get me started on you people.

I told our worthless IT department that I need SQL server 4 weeks ago and a second monitor 2 weeks ago. Neither of them has arrived and it'll be a while before they get there. How fscking hard is it to reformat a computer and put SQL server on it? Or get a second monitor and fscking plug it in?
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Martin
How fscking hard is it to reformat a computer and put SQL server on it? Or get a second monitor and fscking plug it in?

When I worked at PECO, it was harder than you'd think. You see, to move a monitor you need to call *union* labor to move it, since we were prohibited from moving anything but laptops. So we'd call the union movers who would come a few days later and move it. If they've left and you found out that the monitor flickers or doesn't work right, you'd have to call them again and make another appointment.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
You're acting like a college degree is rare these days, possessed by a select few elite. Not so. You still have plenty of idiots in the country, just nowadays they have a piece of paper to wave around. Meanwhile, the richest guy in the world is probably some guy you look down on for not having that piece of paper.
Bill Gates?
 

Blieb

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Originally posted by: dhslammer
edit: Hidden amongst an email request for the admin password was this gem, apparently designed to allay any fears that an engineer might screw the pooch:

"The engineering department understands the technicalities of computers and networks and absolutely would not jeopardize the integrity of the network by doing dumb things."

Of course not.

Does anyone else here support Engineers in an IT capacity? Then you feel my pain. THe only thing worse is supporting lawyers.

Wanted to share a good chuckle with you guys. That is all.

Dude, engineers call me every day ... to take a course on a website.

They never cease to amaze me.
 

SaturnX

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Originally posted by: Bigsm00th
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: cliftonite
Slightly OT, but I find that the term "engineer" is a bit too loosly used. Seems anyone who gets past the 2nd tier of tech support is all of a sudden a network engineer, quality engineer, database engineer, microsoft engineer, adobe engineer, customer support engineer, etc. Most of them dont even have a college degree :confused:


What does a college degree have to do with being an engineer?

You're acting like a college degree is rare these days, possessed by a select few elite. Not so. You still have plenty of idiots in the country, just nowadays they have a piece of paper to wave around. Meanwhile, the richest guy in the world is probably some guy you look down on for not having that piece of paper.

Kids these days are funny. It's humorous watching kids talk like they're special or something.

he is right though. it is insane how many professions call themselves "engineers" now.

It's punishable by law in Ontario to refer to yourself as an "Engineer" when you don't have your Professional Engineering license. There was a whole fiasco between our Engineering governing body and MCSE's and what not... was settled out of court in some way.

--Mark
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: SaturnX


It's punishable by law in Ontario to refer to yourself as an "Engineer" when you don't have your Professional Engineering license. There was a whole fiasco between our Engineering governing body and MCSE's and what not... was settled out of court in some way.

--Mark

What if somebody's a train engineer?